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I just don’t understand drinking and driving

 
 
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 2 Sep, 2012 05:02 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
So you can not drive with a bad flu!!!!!!!

Sorry but to this day I can remember getting out of my sick bed and driving to take final exams so sick that the smell of gas when refueling the car cause me to throw up.

Strangely I did not do bad on those exams but then by your logic just my ability to drive at all mean that I did not have a bad case of the flu.
Adam4Adam
 
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Reply Sun 2 Sep, 2012 05:04 pm
@Atom Blitzer,
Shut the hell up you stupid ass.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 2 Sep, 2012 05:05 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
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That's all you've got? Using a gay card? Seriously?
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LOL when a gay person is telling me that I had come out of a closet that I had been sharing with Hawkey the subject is open................
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Atom Blitzer
 
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Reply Sun 2 Sep, 2012 05:07 pm
@Adam4Adam,
You shut up first bitch. I was making a point that although driving distracted is illegal, it is very common, ass sucking whore.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 2 Sep, 2012 05:11 pm
@Adam4Adam,
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You two come across on the forum as being drunk posters, I'm not the only one that has noticed that!


Drunk and a pedophile and all kind of others things that off hand I can not remember but I am sure that Firefly can give you her long list.

You are a little cute tiny baby when it come to the real experts on Ad hominem attacks on this system.
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FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Sun 2 Sep, 2012 05:12 pm
@BillRM,
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sick that the smell of gas when refueling the car cause me to throw up.
Was that responsible?

Visualising, you sitting behind that wheel, feeling sick, wanting to vomit before you vomitted, where do you think your mind was at? Concentrating on the road? 100% ? No, no, no.

Rest my case.
firefly
 
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Reply Sun 2 Sep, 2012 05:27 pm
@BillRM,
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@firefly,
LOL tell me the last time someone had been charge with driving when sick from aa bad flu or for having a conversation with a passeger or for looking down to tune the radio or.........................

Again, you're not concerned with responsible driving, but only with whether you can legally get away with driving when impaired, or inattentive, or distracted, or physically ill, or fatigued. You think like a sociopath.

But, to answer your question--Possibly the last time someone, who was impaired or distracted by such things, ran into another car, or a pedestrian, or a cyclist, and killed a person--due to their negligent operation of a motor vehicle. When driving, you are responsible for being attentive to the road, and having your car under control at all times.
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Texter found guilty of vehicular homicide
Massachusetts sets legal precedent by convicting a driver of vehicular homicide for causing a fatal distracted driving accident.
by Liane Yvkoff
June 6, 2012

You may want to think twice about responding to a text the next time you're behind the wheel -- a Massachusetts court set a precedent by convicting a teenager of vehicular homicide for texting while driving.

Today a jury found Haverhill, Mass. resident Aaron Deveau, 18, guilty of vehicular homicide for a distracted driving accident he caused last year that took the life of Donald Bowley, according to CBS Boston. The car driven by the New Hampshire father of three was struck head-on by Deveau's vehicle when the young driver swerved across the center line.

Deveau, who was 17 at the time of the accident, denied that he was texting while driving, but cell phone records showed that he responded to text messages moments before the crash. The teen deleted incriminating text messages from his phones and then told police that he hadn't been texting, but rather was distracted by homework and job-related fatigue. The jury deliberated for only three hours before convicting Deveau.

District Court Judge Stephen Abany said he was sending a message to Massachusetts drivers by sentencing Deveau to the maximum two and a half years in prison for vehicular homicide and a concurrent two years for the negligent operation of a motor vehicle, reported Boston.com. This case sets a legal precedent for charging what is typically a traffic violation punished by a fine with a criminal offense.
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_7-57448359-48/texter-found-guilty-of-vehicular-homicide/

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Law toughens penalties for fatal distracted driving
July 19, 2012
BY MICHAEL LINHORST
STATE HOUSE BUREAU
The Record

Drivers who kill someone while using a handheld cellphone can now be charged with vehicular homicide under a measure Lt. Gov. Kim Guadagno signed into law Wednesday.

The law adds texting and talking on a cellphone to factors for reckless driving.

The law allows prosecutors to charge distracted drivers with vehicular homicide if they kill someone with an automobile.


The legislation is called the "Kulesh, Kubert and Bolis Law" in recognition of the victims of three distracted-driving crashes in New Jersey.

"If you wouldn't drink and drive, ladies and gentlemen, you shouldn't text and drive," said Guadagno, who is the acting governor while Governor Christie is out of the state campaigning for presidential hopeful Mitt Romney.

This was the third bill Guadagno has signed in recent weeks and the second bill in as many days.

Helen Kulesh, whose name appears first in the law's title, was an 89-year-old killed as she walked to an Elizabeth grocery store by a distracted driver who was using a cellphone in 2006.

Assemblywoman Annette Quijano, one of the bill's sponsors, wiped away tears as she discussed Kulesh's death.

"Something as simple as going to the grocery store shouldn't be a death sentence," said Quijano, D-Union.

Seriously injured

David and Linda Kubert were seriously injured in 2009 in Mine Hill when a distracted driver hit them as they were riding a motorcycle together. The collision was so violent that each of them lost a leg, according to news reports.

Neither of the Kuberts could attend Wednesday's signing ceremony, Guadagno said, because they had to be in Florida for specialized treatment.

Toni Donato-Bolis was killed June 1, 2011, in Gloucester County by a driver who was allegedly texting, Guadagno said. Donato-Bolis was nine months pregnant, and her unborn son was also killed in the crash.

"If you drink and drive, you're reckless, and a prosecutor can charge you with that. Now if you text and drive, you can be charged with reckless driving," Guadagno said.

The new law does not change the penalties for reckless driving, but it adds illegal cellphone use – texting or talking on a phone that is not hands-free — to the list of factors that can indicate reckless driving.

If a reckless driver kills someone, prosecutors can bring vehicular homicide charges. That crime is punishable by imprisonment of five to 10 years, a fine of up to $150,000, or both. Similarly, a reckless driver who injures someone can be brought up on assault by automobile charges.

Assault by auto that results in serious injury is punishable by up to 18 months imprisonment, a fine of up to $10,000, or both.


Guadagno and some of the bill's other sponsors emphasized that texting while driving is dangerous.

"No phone call, no text is important enough to risk the life of another person," said Assemblywoman Gabriela Mosquera, D-Camden.
http://www.northjersey.com/news/162995086_Law_toughens_penalties_for_fatal_distracted_driving.html?page=all

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A Connecticut Teen Is Charged With Distracted Driving and Negligent Homicide
Posted: 7.9.12

Brianna McEwan is facing legal charges of negligent homicide, driving in the wrong lane and using a cell phone while driving under the age of 18. The teen recently plead not guilty of the crime during her appearance at the Norwalk Superior Court.

The New Canaan High School student is indicted for causing the death of 44-year-old Kenneth Dorsey, who was jogging along Norwalk’s New Canaan Avenue when a vehicle struck him. Dorsey died of his injuries at the Norwalk Hospital. http://www.distracteddrivinghelp.com/news/connecticut-teen-charged-distracted-driving-and-negligent-homicide

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Texting while driving may be the most prevalent way drivers are distracted from the road, but it is not the only way. Distracted driving also includes: talking on a cell phone, eating, changing songs or radio stations, applying makeup, checking email, reading, or anything that forces the driver to shift her attention back and forth between it and the road.

There are three main types of distracted driving:
•Visual: or anything that takes the driver’s eyes off the road;
•Manual: or anything that forces a driver’s hands off the wheel; and
•Cognitive: or anything that takes a driver’s mind off of driving.
http://www.ccc-law.com/maryland-texting-while-driving-vehicular-manslaughter/

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Vehicular Homicide: A Defendant Is Likely To Go To Jail If Someone Dies As a Result Of Driving Carelessly

Although it’s known by various names (vehicular homicide, homicide by vehicle, vehicular manslaughter, etc.) the charge is typically that the defendant negligently operated a motor vehicle which resulted in someone’s death....

The greatest number of vehicular homicide charges are brought because the driver was intoxicated or distracted. These two types of offenses caused the greatest number of driver-related fatalities. In 2009, for example, drunken driving caused over 12,000 traffic fatalities while distracted driving is believed to have caused almost 5,500 deaths the same year, according to the National Highway Safety Traffic Administration. Many states have special vehicular homicide codes that enhance penalties if the driver was intoxicated.
http://www.drivinglaws.org/resources/jail-driving-offense-dui-vehicular.htm


To repeat, when driving, you are responsible for being attentive to the road, and having your car under control at all times. And if fatigue, or illness, or emotional upset, or fiddling with the car radio, or eating, or drinking coffee, or talking on a cell phone, or anything else, keeps you from being able to do those things, you shouldn't be behind the wheel.

You are simply an irresponsible person who promotes irreponsible driving. But, I doubt that comes as a surprise to anyone here.




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BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 2 Sep, 2012 05:29 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
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Visualising, you sitting behind that wheel, feeling sick, wanting to vomit before you vomitted, where do you think your mind was at? Concentrating on the road? 100% ? No, no, no.


LOL driving is not a luxary that you do only when feeling at your very best, not if you wish to keep a job, get through college, or for a million and one things.

When I was a railorad employee it was my obligation to get to work no matter what the weather conditions happen to be or how sick I might be.

Having a few mile and a half frieght trains and passengers trains with thousands of people onboard waiting for train orders or block signals is not acceptable.

When I was flying my ultralight for fun and enjoyment I could limit my flying only when feeling my very best and under ideal weather conditions however somehow I do not think that privilege cover commerce pilots including the ones that will be piloting the next jet liner you take.
firefly
 
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Reply Sun 2 Sep, 2012 05:40 pm
@BillRM,
As usual, you never know when to shut up.

The more you talk, and the more examples you give of your behavior, the more irresponsible behind the wheel you sound.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 2 Sep, 2012 06:05 pm
@firefly,
Yes Firefly the idea that someone would get out of bed sick and drive to work in bad winter weather in order to be sure thousands of others are able to get into new york on time and millions of tons of cargo are not delay is sinfull as afterall the risk of having an accident is greater then if I was feeling wonderful and it was summer time instead of winter.

Silly Firefly at least the responsible people do such things all the time otherwise the society would grind to a stop.

But then you might never had held a job where it matter at all if you show up or not to work on any given day.

Oh my I am not feeling good and there is heavy snow falling so I will just go back to bed as I can not take any added chance that I might be in an accident.
firefly
 
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Reply Sun 2 Sep, 2012 06:26 pm
@BillRM,
You really are an asshole.

They plead with people every year not to go to work with the flu because it helps to spread it to everyone else. So now you tell us you are dumb enough to do that too.

No one is indispensable at their job, not even you, dumbo. That's no excuse to drive in an impaired state.

I don't doubt that you often feel hungover and lousy and not in tip-tip shape to drive. Drunk Drunk Drunk

People should not drive in an impaired state--due to any reason or cause. You are simply a self-centered, irresponsible idiot, who doesn't give a damn if his impaired state causes an accident that injures or kills someone else.

It's worth repeating--you are an asshole.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 2 Sep, 2012 06:30 pm
@firefly,
You know if your idea Fireflythat no one should drive but when at their maximun possible skills and reaction times not only would road sccidents decline to a very few yearly but there would not be any oil shortage as the road traffic would be around five percents of what it is now.

We all use the roads when not at our best for many reasons and that is not going to change at all and the BAC level for drunk driving is now set so low as not to place most drivers outside of the acceptable range of skills needed to drive.

As studies had shown .08 level for a thirty something driver reduce his/her driving skills to the same as a twenty something driver at .00 BAC or is similar to talking not texting on a cell phone.
firefly
 
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Reply Sun 2 Sep, 2012 06:34 pm
@BillRM,
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and the BAC level for drunk driving is now set so low as not to place most drivers outside of the acceptable range of skills needed to drive.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4grQi_e5neg/TvAgKFFbthI/AAAAAAAAAF4/zJjbB1QOecg/s1600/head-up-ass.jpg

Go, have another drink, BillRM. Drunk Drunk Drunk
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 2 Sep, 2012 06:44 pm
@firefly,
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They plead with people every year not to go to work with the flu because it helps to spread it to everyone else. So now you tell us you are dumb enough to do that too.

No one is indispensable at their job


LOL a railroad freight yard control tower with just little old me in it is a danger to the health of someone else for example?

A lot of work is not office work where there are plenty of poeple to take up the load if you are not there.

As far as not beiing indispensable try selling that idea to a few thousands commuters setting on trains wondering what the hell the delay is to get to work.

Yes in an hour or two they will dig up someone else to run that tower and get him on site.

I still can remember once listerning to a train dispatcher having a nerve break down in real time when dealing with the failure of a key person at a frieght tower who had placed the whole yard at full emergency stop due to his inablity to deal with the rush hour trains traffic.

hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 2 Sep, 2012 06:57 pm
@BillRM,
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I still can remember once listerning to a train dispatcher having a nerve break down in real time when dealing with the failure of a key person at a frieght tower who had placed the whole yard at full emergency stop due to his inablity to deal with the rush hour trains traffic.


did you work for a RR? if so which one?
Sloan
 
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Reply Sun 2 Sep, 2012 07:14 pm
@Atom Blitzer,
Looks like hawkeye has his son posting on here now. Like father like son, two drunks in a pod.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 2 Sep, 2012 07:40 pm
@hawkeye10,
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did you work for a RR? if so which one?


As a college student I worked summers for the New York and Long Branch Railroad as an agent/operator.

The line was jointly own by the CNJ and the PR railroad and for one year after college I work for the CNJ.

Very very good money as in the summers I earned enough funds to pay for my college living costs and books for the rest of the year.

My parents only needed to picked up the tution.

The one thing you needed was to be reliable above all else and be where they send you on time.

Almost all the time you was working alone if at a station taking in ten thousands dollars[1960s money] in the morning rush and doing the book keeping and banking the funds in the afternoon, checking frieght cars loads for shipping damage, manning a railroad draw bridge or a frieght yard control tower and so on.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 2 Sep, 2012 07:44 pm
@BillRM,
interesting, thanks. I am a railfan/railroad proponent who loves to travel by train.
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Atom Blitzer
 
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Reply Sun 2 Sep, 2012 07:57 pm
@Sloan,
Irrelevant, bitch, cause I ain't nothing like a drunk.
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FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Sun 2 Sep, 2012 08:15 pm
@BillRM,
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LOL driving is not a luxary that you do only when feeling at your very best, not if you wish to keep a job, get through college, or for a million and one things.


Catch a bus
Catch a train and get their early
Hire a taxi
Call a friend
Walk

I rest my case.
 

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