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What is Real?

 
 
Cyracuz
 
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Reply Sun 18 Dec, 2011 12:28 pm
@JLNobody,
Yes. There's a stand-up comedian, Jim Jeffries, who talks about this, and it makes me laugh every time.
He goes on about how there were two white people put into the jungle by God, and they went at it and had children, and then more children, and for the amount of inbreeding, very few retards. Smile
mars90000000
 
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Reply Sun 18 Dec, 2011 03:34 pm
What if the person in the puddle is real, and you're just a reflection of him?
Cyracuz
 
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Reply Sun 18 Dec, 2011 04:47 pm
@mars90000000,
Yes, what if? Wink
JLNobody
 
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Reply Tue 20 Dec, 2011 11:01 pm
@Cyracuz,
How would our lives be without notions of truth, reality, goodness, etc.?
Procrustes
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2011 05:42 am
@JLNobody,
What would it be like to be a rock?
Cyracuz
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2011 08:43 am
@JLNobody,
Undescribed?
JLNobody
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2011 10:21 am
@Cyracuz,
It's good that you've come up with a notion about reality that is true.
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Procrustes
 
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Reply Thu 22 Dec, 2011 04:48 am
@Cyracuz,

Found what you were talking bout.

I thought I'd chuck some Bill Hicks talking a bit about reality for good measure...
mars90000000
 
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Reply Sat 24 Dec, 2011 11:38 am
Should religion be dragged into this conversation as well?

"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
--Albert Einstein--
Procrustes
 
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Reply Sun 25 Dec, 2011 04:15 am
@mars90000000,
Just thought I'd dig up the vid in context of Cryacuz's post.
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Cyracuz
 
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Reply Sun 25 Dec, 2011 07:00 am
@Procrustes,
I think both Bill Hicks and Jim Jefferies are awesome comedians. I've seen these clips many times, but somehow they still make me laugh. Thanks Smile
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mars90000000
 
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Reply Fri 30 Dec, 2011 09:19 pm
need, all, males, here: http://able2know.org/topic/182113-1
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Rickoshay75
 
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Reply Thu 23 Feb, 2012 03:53 pm
@mars90000000,
There are three different kinds of real. philosophical, perceptive and practical.

Philosophical real is describable with words.

Perceptive real is individual feeling

Practical real is the way things are, not they we want them to be.
fresco
 
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Reply Thu 23 Feb, 2012 05:45 pm
@Rickoshay75,
Laughing
Did you get that from "Readers Digest"?
Procrustes
 
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Reply Fri 24 Feb, 2012 08:19 am
@fresco,
Would he be sort of accurate?
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Rickoshay75
 
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Reply Sat 25 Feb, 2012 01:11 pm
@fresco,
Did you get that from "Readers Digest"?

If I did I don't remember. I'm more inclined to credit my 75 years of reading living, research, and over ten years of forum debates.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Sat 25 Feb, 2012 01:39 pm
"What is real?" is a question that becomes stranger and stranger the more I look at it. I say "look at it" rather than "think about it". This is because when thinking about it I take so much for granted, presuppositions that make it seem almost self-evident or mundane.
I guess scientists do not consider this question (What is real?) a "basic" problem. Practically, of course, they want to avoid delusions, like "optical illusions". But this does not itself have intellectual or theoretical significance. Psychologically, of course, we want our thoughts, feelings and perceptions of the world to be "realistic"--not sure why, except for practical reasons. And the avoidance of delusion has great "spiritual" significance for meditative Buddhism.
But when I meditate, i.e., look as openly, receptively, non-defensively, and with as few presuppositions as possible, at "my" world of objects the idea of "real-ness" has little or no significance. Everything simply "IS", whether it be "objectively real" or not. Phenomenological reality is my ultimate reality, and it IS me, my "true" Self.
Forgive the sermon
Rickoshay75
 
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Reply Sat 25 Feb, 2012 01:48 pm
@mars90000000,
What if the person in the puddle is real, and you're just a reflection of him?>

It would either be a dream or an illusion...
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Rickoshay75
 
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Reply Sat 25 Feb, 2012 01:53 pm
@Procrustes,
What would it be like to be a rock?

A good, dependable friend you can rely on.
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Rickoshay75
 
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Reply Sat 25 Feb, 2012 01:58 pm
@JLNobody,
Everything simply "IS", whether it be "objectively real" or not.>>

Excellent example of practical reality
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