Homicide Trial of Michael Jackson's M.D.

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Dr. Conrad Murray is being criminally prosecuted
for doing what his patient (probably) insistently wanted.

http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2011/09/27/2011-09-27_michael_jackson_death_photo_shown_to_jury_during_opening_statements_in_dr_conrad.html

In my opinion,
if the jury believes that the death resulted from the direct & insistent demands
of the decedent, then it shoud acquit the defendant,
in that the decedent brought it on himself.

WHATAYATHINK???????

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[+3] - engineer - 09/28/2011I think the doctor is required to do what is in the best interests of the patient, not what the patient wants. If the patient has a problem with that, he can fire the doctor.

@OmSigDAVID,

IMO The argument is going to centre on "duty of care" by a health professional with respect to the mental state of his patient. The lifestyle of Jackson is irrelevant to that argument unless it can be proved that Jackson's money "bought off" that duty of care. Weighed against that idea, is that the Doctor would be a fool to not to look after the goose that laid his golden eggs.

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@OmSigDAVID,

I'm sick of it being shown live on BBC News 24.

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@OmSigDAVID,

I think defendants in criminal trials should be armed so they can defend themselves from juries that threaten them.

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@OmSigDAVID,

I think the doctor is required to do what is in the best interests of the patient, not what the patient wants. If the patient has a problem with that, he can fire the doctor.

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@engineer,

engineer wrote:

I think the doctor is required to do what is in the best interests of the patient, not what the patient wants.
If the patient has a problem with that, he can fire the doctor.

That does not betoken a free society.
As long as the Individual got what he demanded, for good or ill,
that shoud be enuf. If I were on that jury, I 'd vote to acquit the defendant.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

As long as the Individual got what he demanded, for good or ill,
that shoud be enuf.

Doctors have to sign something called the Hippocratic Oath. That goes back a bit further than your constitution.

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@izzythepush,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

As long as the Individual got what he demanded, for good or ill,
that shoud be enuf.

izzythepush wrote:

Doctors have to sign something called the Hippocratic Oath.
That goes back a bit further than your constitution.

From what I 've heard, thay do not. Many do not.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

You seem to get most of your information from snippets of conversation overheard in unsavoury establishments.

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

You seem to get most of your information from snippets
of conversation overheard in unsavoury establishments.

This snippet was from a medical discussion on the radio of several M.D.s

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

This snippet was from a medical discussion on the radio of several M.D.s

An unsavoury radio.

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@izzythepush,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

This snippet was from a medical discussion on the radio of several M.D.s

izzythepush wrote:

An unsavoury radio.

I 'll take your word for it; I did not taste it.

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@OmSigDAVID,

I bet you will now though.

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

I bet you will now though.

U lose.

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@OmSigDAVID,

Your idea of "a free society" is simplistic. No society can be "free" by virtue of the social agreements limiting behaviour, and those agreements are what defines "a society". One such agreement is about "duty of care" for professionals whose business it is to assist minors or the mentally incapacitated (whether that be through illness, senility, stress or drug abuse).
So the prosecutor could argue
EITHER
The doctor was incompetent in not diagnosing MJ's state which would have indicated a greater duty of care.
OR
The doctor did know MJ''s state, but was unprofessional in not providing the correct level of care.

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@fresco,

fresco wrote:

Your idea of "a free society" is simplistic.

I simply support laissez faire free enterprize,
with government being severely crippled,
exalting liberty of the Individual citizen.
I encourage each citizen to be zealously anti-communitarian.
We need to bear in mind that personal freedom and the domestic jurisdiction of government are INVERSELY PROPORTIONAL.

fresco wrote:

No society can be "free" by virtue of the social agreements limiting behaviour,
and those agreements are what defines "a society".

I propose that each citizen join in trampling down the collectivism of "society"
and magnify the intensity of PERSONAL FREEDOM.
We shoud have a butterfly on the American ` Flag,
whose flatulence represents government in America.

fresco wrote:

One such agreement is about "duty of care" for professionals whose business it is to assist minors
or the mentally incapacitated (whether that be through illness, senility, stress or drug abuse).

"Consensus facit legum."
The expert's duty shoud be defined by the contract between the parties,
not by any interloping 3rd party (like government).

fresco wrote:

So the prosecutor could argue
EITHER
The doctor was incompetent in not diagnosing MJ's state which would have indicated a greater duty of care.
OR
The doctor did know MJ''s state, but was unprofessional in not providing the correct level of care.

Note that the defense argues that while the defendant was absent from the room,
answering the call of nature, the decedent grabbed some drugs and ate them.

If I were on the jury, I 'd find very abundant reasonable doubt.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

Is the butterfly a particularly flatulent creature?

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@izzythepush,

No.

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@izzythepush,

Do u see the symbology ?

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@OmSigDAVID,

I see that you, as a rich man wants to limit, and finally snuff out any chance the poor man will ever have.

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