hingehead
 
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Reply Wed 21 Sep, 2011 03:55 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
So you agree Boortz was a clueless knob in this piece?
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hingehead
 
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Reply Thu 22 Sep, 2011 07:06 pm
Colbert on class warfare
http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/397491/september-20-2011/barack-obama-unveils-the--buffett-rule-
segues to:
http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/397492/september-20-2011/the-word---death-and-taxes
Fido
 
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Reply Fri 23 Sep, 2011 10:53 am
@hingehead,
The second liar never has a chance... The capitalists make their money out of class warfare, but to pretend innocence they level the charge: Class Warfare against the democrats...

What are the Democrats to say??? That the capitalist class is engaged in the ruthless extermanation of the working class so they might live as lords among so many slaves??? The democrats are a guilty of helping the capitalist class, just as the capitalist class is guilty of helping itself... They cannot claim innocence, and they dare not accept guilt... But; If I were they, I would say it is the job of the state to bring justice and to reconcile class differences in order to achieve national interests... It is because the state has served only one master, the capitalist class that it finds the population stripped of rights and so of wealth to the point they can no longer accept taxation, in fact, so poor and distressed that they feel they are only paying taxes to give government the strength to tax even more...The rich do not want to pay anything, but the poor are paying all for nothing... The longer the government stands, the poorer and more hopeless they become... The payment of taxes is the price of a job... If they will eat they will pay taxes... And they are in no position to demand more of their employers to more easily pay what is charged to them... They are squeezed from both sides, but the employer gets to play the hero... In defending themselves from taxation they pretend to take up the cause of working people, to allow them to keep more of what they earn... Don't look now, Rich Man; But all that is profit, waste, and taxes is earned by the working class, and their acceptance of exploitation is the price of their having a job at all... In defending the working class from taxation the rich man is defening his own criminal wealth from taxation and nothing more...

When Marx said that the capitalist will sell the rope he will be hanged with he meant this, at least: That the capitalist class will starve the state that defends their wealth to have ever greater wealth and so cut the ground off from under their feet when most they need firm footing... Their mistake is in believing morals will protect their wealth when people without wealth, or freedom, or hope have no morals... It is moral to demand justice for self and others, and immoral to look on as others are injured until it is ones own turn... It is immoral to accept the general injury to this land and people in the name of some short sighted ideology... Capitalism has only been around long enough to bring humanity to the point of self destruction... It is not tried and true... It is tried and false...
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 24 Sep, 2011 06:20 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:

Since so many people take such strong exception to any claim that Obama is a Marxist or a Socialist,


That's because he's not. He's right of centre, about as Socialist as the Thatch.
Fido
 
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Reply Sat 24 Sep, 2011 08:59 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

Since so many people take such strong exception to any claim that Obama is a Marxist or a Socialist,


That's because he's not. He's right of centre, about as Socialist as the Thatch.
It is easy to point at black people and say they lack intelligence or ambition, and that is the reason Mr. Obama is failing... He is failing because he is not pushing the change necessary for this country which would mean rebirth, reform, or revolution... He lacks vision; but only because he shares the common form and formula the rich have for success; meaning, more of capitalism... Putting capital on life supports can no longer be afforded... When we work we have to give them profit, and when we sleep we have to hand over our tax money and future tax money to them... You cannot prime the pump any longer... If you could get capitalism up and running it would only drain more capital out of the middle classes and make more poor out of them... The parasite has grown larger than the host, taking all we have, all government and the people have to give, and is still asking for more... Obama is not as socialist... He does not understand one part of economy... He does as people who believe capitalism can be saved tell him to do, but capitalism is killing America, killing this people, and destroying the government...

The people cannot save the economy, and should not be asked to; and the government is beyond hope; but the people should save themselves, and they will not be able to short of taking responsibility for themselves and their own affairs... If they are used to the government taking care of the old, they better make other plans... If they are used to the government looking out for the young, they better make other plans... The republicans make no secret of wanting to get the federal government out of education which means the whole system will fall backwards a hundred years in a heartbeat... Take care of your own education... Don't count on government for anything, but don't give to government anything you don't absolutely have to...The government serves the enemy, but only let them look out for the common man and they are instantly called socialists...

Obama shares a situation with the man who complained that he had painted pictures for twenty years and no one had called him an artist; but he only polished one knob, and everyone called him a knob polisher... If you get my metaphore... Obama has done nothing for the working class... He has tried to revive capitalism for the rich, but the expected benefits of capital are hundreds of years over due, and will never arrive for humanity... The economy should feed everyone... Why should the whole government go broke feeding capitalism???
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