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Sat 17 Jan, 2004 12:08 am
The Drudge Report's transcript of General Wes Clark's congressional testimony was based on a false and distorted transcript offered by the Republican National Committee. It turns out that the transcript was released by the GOP was fiddled with. It appears that Drudge edited the text, omitted important parts and added text not in the transcript, and substituted some words with others to change the meanings to make it falsely appear that Clark has been inconsistent with his statements re Iraq.
With all the GOP dirty tricks going on you have to verify everything yourself.
----BBB
Posted on Thu, Jan. 15, 2004
GOP chair claims Clark supported war; transcripts show otherwise
By Dana Hull and Drew Brown
Knight Ridder Newspapers
MANCHESTER, N.H. - Ed Gillespie, the chairman of the Republican National Committee, charged Thursday that retired Army Gen. Wesley Clark endorsed President Bush's policy toward Iraq two weeks before Congress voted to authorize Bush to go to war.
If true, that would contradict the core message of Clark's presidential campaign. The complete transcript of Clark's Sept. 26, 2002, testimony, however, reveals that Clark didn't endorse Bush's policy during the congressional hearing, and that the Republican charge is based on selected excerpts of his remarks.
Gillespie accurately quoted portions of Clark's testimony before the House Armed Services Committee in which Clark said he believed that Saddam Hussein possessed chemical and biological weapons and was seeking nuclear weapons. But the RNC chairman didn't mention that Clark also said America should work through the United Nations to seek a diplomatic solution and go to war only as a last resort.
Gillespie's speech, delivered in Clark's hometown of Little Rock, Ark., argued forcefully that Clark had endorsed Bush's policy toward Iraq in that congressional testimony and at other times. Gillespie apparently was contesting Clark's insistence that he consistently opposed Bush's war against Iraq - a stand Clark reiterated Thursday. "There was no stronger case made than that expert testimony, the testimony of General Wesley Clark," Gillespie concluded.
Clark's position on the Iraq war is central to his presidential candidacy, for as a former four-star general, he bases his appeal to Democrats on his credibility as a military man who can challenge Bush on national security issues.
"This is material that has been dug up by the RNC," Clark responded Thursday afternoon. "Ed Gillespie should have read the whole testimony, because it totally refutes the Bush position."
Clark appeared exasperated.
"What I was saying then is what I'm saying today. That Saddam Hussein was not an imminent threat. That actions contemplated against Saddam Hussein did not constitute pre-emptive war, contrary to what the Bush administration was saying, because there was no imminent threat. Was he troublesome? Sure. Was he a threat? Eventually, sure. Was the clock ticking in the two-year, five-year, eight-year time period? Sure. Did we have to do this? NO."
Clark, however, hasn't always been consistent. The day after he officially announced his candidacy for president last September, he told reporters that he "probably" would have voted the previous autumn for the congressional resolution authorizing Bush to go to war, then reversed that position the next day.
The attack on Clark by the RNC chairman suggests that the Republican Party is now taking Clark's campaign seriously. Although opinion polls can be unreliable in primaries, in which voter turnout is low and many voters make up their minds at the last minute, the latest polls show Clark closing in on former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean for the lead in New Hampshire, where Democrats will vote on Jan. 27.
Clark's congressional testimony was further distorted Thursday by cyber-gossip columnist Matt Drudge, who quoted selected portions of Clark's testimony and added sentences that don't appear in the transcript on his Web site Thursday. Drudge didn't respond to an e-mail request for comment.
For example, Drudge quoted Clark on possible links between al-Qaida and Saddam Hussein's regime. "I think there's no question that, even though we may not have the evidence as (fellow witness) Richard (Perle) says, that there have been such contacts," Clark testified. "It's normal. It's natural. These are a lot of bad actors in the same region together. They are going to bump into each other. They are going to exchange information."
But Drudge didn't include Clark's comment that: "As far as I know, I haven't seen any substantial evidence linking Saddam's regime to the al-Qaida network, though such evidence may emerge. I'm saying there hasn't been any substantiation of the linkage of the Iraqi regime to the events of 9/11 or the fact that they are giving weapons of mass destruction capability to al-Qaida."
"There's no question that Saddam Hussein is a threat," Clark testified, according to the full transcript, which was reviewed by Knight Ridder. "He does retain his chemical and biological capabilities to some extent and he is, as far as we know, actively pursuing nuclear capabilities, though he doesn't have nuclear warheads yet. If he were to acquire nuclear weapons, I think our friends in the region would face greatly increased risks as would we
The problem of Iraq is not a problem that can be postponed indefinitely
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In addition, Clark said: "If the efforts to resolve the problem by using the United Nations fail, either initially or ultimately, then we need to form the broadest possible coalition, including our NATO allies and the North Atlantic Council if we're going to bring forces to bear. We should not be using force until the personnel, the organizations, the plans that will be required for post-conflict Iraq are prepared and ready."
(Hull, of the San Jose Mercury News, reported from New Hampshire, Brown from Washington.)
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Clark's Iraq stance consistent: advisor Rubin
Fri Jan 16,11:54 AM ET Add U.S. National
WASHINGTON (AFP) - Democratic US presidential hopeful Wesley Clark did not reverse his Iraq war stance as Republicans and some media outlets have reported, his foreign policy advisor said.
"He has made it clear that this is the wrong war at the wrong time," James Rubin said at the National Press Club.
Journalist Matt Drudge reported on his website while Republican National Committee chairman Ed Gillespie said in Little Rock Thursday that Clark's pre-war testimony to Congress differed from the candidate's anti-war platform as he runs against President George W. Bush.
Rubin said Clark's testimony had been quoted selectively.
"He was supportive of the policy of diplomacy backed by force," Rubin said.
"If you look at his policy ... you will discover that his policy was very straightforward, that you needed to take this problem, this challenge, this threat to the United Nations."
Clark is vying for the Democratic nomination to challenge Bush in the November 2 election. He is a retired general and was NATO commander during operations in Kosovo.
Rubin was a spokesman for president Bill Clinton's secretary of state, Madeleine Albright.
Re: GOP & Drude changed Clark's congress testimony trans
BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:"This is material that has been dug up by the RNC," Clark responded Thursday afternoon. "Ed Gillespie should have read the whole testimony, because it totally refutes the Bush position."
Clark appeared exasperated.
"What I was saying then is what I'm saying today. That Saddam Hussein was not an imminent threat. That actions contemplated against Saddam Hussein did not constitute pre-emptive war, contrary to what the Bush administration was saying, because there was no imminent threat. Was he troublesome? Sure. Was he a threat? Eventually, sure. Was the clock ticking in the two-year, five-year, eight-year time period? Sure. Did we have to do this? NO."
LMAO Please! Clark should feel exasperated. His exact words in his COngressional testimony were:
Quote:Saddam has been pursuing nuclear weapons for over twenty years. According to all estimates made available he does not now have these weapons. The best public assessment is that if he were to acquire fissionable material he might field some type of weapon within two years. If he has to enrich the uranium ore itself, then a period of perhaps five years might be required. But what makes the situation relatively more dangerous today is that the UN weapons inspectors, who provided some assistance in impeding his development programs, have been absent from Iraq for over four years. And the sanctions regime, designed to restrict his access to weapons materials and the resources needed to procure them, has continuously eroded. At some point, it may become possible for Saddam to acquire the fissionable materials or uranium ore that he needs. And therefore, Iraq is not a problem that can be indefinitely postponed.
In addition, Saddam Hussein's current retention of chemical and biological weapons and their respective delivery systems violates the UN resolutions themselves, which carry the weight of international law.
Our President has emphasized the urgency of eliminating these weapons and weapons programs. I strongly support his efforts to encourage the United Nations to act on this problem. And in taking this to the United Nations, the President's clear determination to act if the United Nations can't provides strong leverage undergirding further diplomatic efforts.
So he testified to the Congress that the best public assesment was that Saddam could have nuclear material in 2 years and that the problem couldn't be put off indefinitely but now he's saying "Was the clock ticking in the two-year, five-year, eight-year time period? Sure. Did we have to do this? NO."
He also "strongly supported" Bush taking this to the UN with the "clear determination to act" if the UN didn't isn't voicing support of Bush's plan? Did he expect Bush to just bluff with that "clear determination"? Did Clark's campaign staff forget about all that shuttling around Powell did trying to get resolutions passed just before we went into Iraq?
Clark can whine and cry all he wants but his testimony is
public record. Maybe it's Clark and his own staff that should read the entire record because it sure doesn't look like it refutes anything except the claims he's making right now.
The U.N was acting untill Bush ordered them out of Iraq because he was going to attack Iraq. The fact that no WMD's have been found prove that the inspectors were doing and did do thier jobs. Bush intended to go to war from the start of his administration.