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I don't get this.

Just put JTT on ignore and don't talk to him if you don't want to talk to him. Or, if you need to take a break from A2K then take a break from A2K. Why would you want to be deleted? (I don't think they delete anyone anyway...)

I don't get this.

Just put JTT on ignore and don't talk to him if you don't want to talk to him. Or, if you need to take a break from A2K then take a break from A2K. Why would you want to be deleted? (I don't think they delete anyone anyway...)

I know you don't get it and frankly, I don't get it either. The thing about putting people on ignore is others still talk to them and quote what they say. I got extremely upset at JTT and moment when I said I wanted to be deleted I did.

I sent JTT a private message last week apologizing for getting so upset with him because I was wrong. He sent me back a very nice response. Then because I won't start murmuring and complaining about politicians he starts accusing me of lying, which is what his "excuse" comments are.

JPB you,I am sure, have noticed that I do not bring my beliefs into every post like I used to. I finally told JTT scripture says to pray for our leaders and not talk against them. I thought he would respect that. But, no, he doesn't respect that.

I was very hurt, whether that is realistic or not, and at the time the way I was handling the hurt was to delete myself from it.

I find that the expressed opinions
of other people have NO effect upon me,
UNLESS I RESPECT THEIR MINDS.

Then because I won't start murmuring and complaining about politicians

I finally told JTT scripture says to pray for our leaders and not talk against them.

I find that the expressed opinions
of other people have NO effect upon me,
UNLESS I RESPECT THEIR MINDS.

Would this be the mind that makes promise after promise and never keeps those promises, Dave.?

Might this be the mind that merely keeps trumpeting "logic, logic" but never displays any and when actual logic is put right in front of your face, you ignore it,

Its not that I ignore logic; its that u offer foolishness, falsely alleging that it is logic,
as if (figuratively speaking) u added 4 + 2
and u adamantly insist and scream that it equals 13
and then u claim that it is "logic".

and by your posts u have shown a refusal to try it
and a manifest, active disdain for logic.

He wants you to shout it from the rooftops!

He doesn't understand why Americans don't look at themselves with disgust.

We both agreed that he had a valid point; we just wished he'd find a different way of presenting it, particularly since the one he has is so ineffective.

That doesn't mean I'm going to go around screaming, "War Crimes" and "Criminals" from the yardarms.

There are international courts that we choose to ignore. We're the bullies on the playground that have impacted the world and the lives and livelihoods of the people in it.

It's not something that I live with lightly, as you seem to think all Americans do.

OTOH, I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't also acknowledge that my life is what it is because I have the luxury of being an American.

Its not that I ignore logic; its that u offer foolishness, falsely alleging that it is logic,
as if (figuratively speaking) u added 4 + 2
and u adamantly insist and scream that it equals 13
and then u claim that it is "logic".

You're doing it again, Dave.

Using the same old inane analogy that you've used numerous times
that has no bearing on any of the issues we have discussed.

and by your posts u have shown a refusal to try it
and a manifest, active disdain for logic.

Your lack of posts on the very issues that you have mistakenly suggested are issues of logic illustrate just how out to lunch you are.

I tried to show you

how your logic on 'data' was so amiss that a child would understand but you would have none of it.

You talked around the issue, you were never willing to address it head on because you knew you were out to lunch.

That illustrates your dishonesty.

He's not wrong. Or, not wholly wrong, at least.

He wants you to shout it from the rooftops!

JPB, you are much more honest than this.
I don't want anyone to "shout it from the rooftops".
I'd love to see the hypocrisy stop, or at least be kept to a reasonable level.

Global Rogue State

The opinion of the biggest is always the best

By Edward S. Herman

...

In the case of the Vietnam War, the global rogue was able to ignore the 1954 Geneva Accords, place a puppet in power in South Vietnam, invade and bomb all of Indochina, killing as many as four million people over two decades, without the slightest interference from the UN or World Court.

...

Far more gross has been the U.S. use of food warfare and trade/investment boycotts against political targets like Vietnam, Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Nicaragua, and other states that cross it. These boycotts have caused serious hunger, disease, and death in the victim countries, although it is often hard to separate the effects of food warfare from those of U.S. direct and proxy military operations.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Terrorism/Global_Rogue.html

More than anyone at this site, i've catalogued the excesses of the Untied States.

Sideshow

Kissinger, Nixon and the Destruction of Cambodia

by William Shawcross

Simon and Schuster, 1979


The Outrage

p150

COSVN was never discovered. The American troops plowed past its supposed site in the Fish Hook and through the plantations and villages beyond. Commanders were astonished by the lack of opposition as their tanks smashed jagged swathes through the trees and as landing zones for helicopters were blasted clear. Communist troops were hardly to be seen.

The small town of Snuol became the first of scores of Cambodian towns to be destroyed by the war. Until the second squadron of the 11th Armored Cavalry Regiment arrived at its outskirts on May 3, about two thousand people had lived quietly there, tapping rubber on the trees around. When the cavalry came under fire, their commander, Lieutenant Colonel Grail Brookshire, ordered his tank crews to fire their 90-mm. guns straight into the town and called in airstrikes to discourage further resistance. After twenty-four hours of bombardment, Brookshire judged Snuol safe for his men, and the tanks moved into the center. Only seven bodies could be seen, four of them Cambodian civilians. A small girl lay near the ruins of shops. When Brookshire was asked by reporters why the town had to be destroyed, he replied "We had no choice. We had to take it. This was a hub of North Vietnamese activity."

As they drove past shattered shops soldiers leaped off their tanks to kick down doors that still stood, and they looted the town. Grail Brookshire later recalled the event, laughingly describing himself as "The Butcher of Snuol." But he admonished a reporter, "You guys said my men systematically looted the town. My God, my men couldn't do anything that was systematic."

The destruction of Snuol was repeated in Mimot, a much larger plantation town, the village of Sre Khtum, and dozens of villages and hamlets. The annual monsoon rains turned the red clay to clinging mud, but American and South Vietnamese troops advanced, firing and burning whatever might be of use to a returning enemy, capturing caches of rice, ammunition and arms, driving the residents, Vietnamese and Cambodian, before them. The Americans found it almost impossible to separate friend from foe, and the South Vietnamese made no effort to do so. They plunged into Cambodia raping, looting, burning in retaliation for the murder of Vietnamese in Cambodia the month before. Their behavior persuaded many of those Vietnamese who still lived there that it would not be wise of them to stay, and during the first two weeks of the invasion about fifty thousand of them fled, to sit listlessly under tents in the overcrowded refugee camps of South Vietnam. "We cannot possibly accommodate them," said South Vietnam's Minister for Refugees. Soon the numbers had doubled.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Kissinger/Outrage_Sideshow.html

Incredibly, Henry Kissinger—the man who rivals Pol Pot for the dubious honor of being the person responsible for the death of the largest number of innocent people in South East Asia (and far surpasses Pol Pot in criminality when one factors in Kissinger's various levels of responsibility for wholesale slaughter and repression in other parts of the world)—still wields significant power in the United States; but his role as eager facilitator of mass murder, totalitarian repression and other atrocities is never discussed in polite society.

I confronted truth before you did, pipsqueak.