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Arab Spring seems to have hit London, is America Next?

 
 
Reply Mon 8 Aug, 2011 02:33 pm
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Riot police have again been deployed to the streets of London as violence broke out for a third day running.

Cars were set on fire in Lewisham and a bus and shop were set ablaze in Peckham. A large furniture shop in Croydon is also well alight.

In Hackney, police have sealed off part of Mare Street after youths smashed police car windows.

The trouble flared after a man was stopped in Hackney and searched by police but nothing was found.

There were also fears trouble may spread further afield as police in riot gear were deployed in Birmingham city centre after scores of youths rampaged through the shopping area, smashing windows.

The fresh violence prompted Acting Scotland Yard Commissioner Tim Godwin to called on parents to contact their children and urged the public to clear London's streets.

Up to 200 police officers in riot gear are in the Hackney area and are clashing with youths, who have tried to set fire to vehicles.



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Groups of people began attacking the police in Hackney at about 16:20 BST, throwing rocks and a bin at officers.

Police cars were also smashed by youths armed with wooden poles and metal bars.

Looters also smashed their way into shops, including a JD Sports store, before being dispersed by police.

Planks of wood taken from a lorry were then hurled towards lines of riot officers.

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At the scene

Alix Kroeger
BBC News
In a lane off Mare Street the wreckage of a burnt-out car still smoulders, surrounded by riot police.

At least for now, the violence in this half of London seems to have abated. I was talking to one young man who had received on his BlackBerry a list of places where he said there will be further trouble tonight.

He didn't tell me which places and stressed it is speculation. But he and a friend told me frustration with poverty in the area was boiling over.

On Mare Street there is the sound of crunching as police vans run over broken glass. Much of it from a bottle bank which was overturned providing makeshift missiles for rioters who lobbed the bottles at police.

Violence has broken out in Peckham, south London, where a shop and a bus have been set on fire.

In nearby Lewisham, a number of vehicles and a trail of bins on fire.

At least 215 people have been arrested and 25 charged following the riots across London over the last two days.

In Birmingham City Centre looters have attacked several shops, smashing windows and stealing items.

An eyewitness said windows have been smashed in McDonalds and Jessops near Birmingham Cathedral and a sign has been thrown through a gym window.

London's mayor Boris Johnson is cutting short his holiday to return to the city.

Home Secretary Theresa May also returned early from holiday, to meet Metropolitan Police (Met) chiefs to discuss their response to the violence.

Mrs May condemned the riots as "sheer criminality" and said those responsible would "face the consequences of their actions".


The fire quickly swept through the furniture store
The trouble follows two nights of violence over the weekend which started after police shot a man dead in Tottenham.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14450248

This follows by two weeks the revolt movement spreading to Israel, is it only a matter of time before it gets to the USA?
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 8 Aug, 2011 09:48 pm
@hawkeye10,
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British police say violence and looting has spread to a third city, with authorities handling outbreaks of violence in the northern city of Liverpool.
Liverpool's police department said officers were responding to a "number of isolated outbreaks of disorder," including vehicles set ablaze and buildings attacked in the city's southern neighborhoods.
It follows a major escalation of rioting across London since a wave of violence first broke out on Saturday night. Police in the country's central city of Birmingham also confirmed more than 30 people had been arrested after shops in a main retail district were attacked.
Shops and cars were set ablaze across London late Monday and early on Tuesday as authorities struggled to contain a third night of unrest in Britain's capital, which will host next summer's Olympic Games.

http://news.yahoo.com/uk-riots-spread-northern-city-liverpool-002650480.html

Seems to be spreading.....
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BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 8 Aug, 2011 10:24 pm
@hawkeye10,
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This follows by two weeks the revolt movement spreading to Israel, is it only a matter of time before it gets to the USA?


Come on Hawkeye this kind of thing is nothing new in the US after all and you can still see the burn marks in the middle of the city of Detroit from the 1960s riots.

It is a event in Europe only because they are not as use to it happening there as we are in the US.

The US police policy is just to contain the rioters in their neighborhoods and allow them to loot and burn within those limits.

Hell I remember once that some black leaders was threating to have a riot in non-black areas of the city/county of Miami and everyone else arm themselves as a result.

My work place at the time was on the border of a mainly black community and there was enough firearms taken to work for a few days to overthrow a small country.

The march on the non-black areas never occur as everyone knew what would had happen to such rioters and that without the aid of the police.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 9 Aug, 2011 02:46 am
The rioters are black, not "Arabs." As usual, you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
the prince
 
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Reply Tue 9 Aug, 2011 02:53 am
@Setanta,
And this is not "Arab" spring. They protested to get the basic human rights - here it is just to loot and cause mayhem
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 9 Aug, 2011 02:54 am
@the prince,
the prince wrote:

And this is not "Arab" spring. They protested to get the basic human rights - here it is just to loot and cause mayhem
Right, I am sure that the massive government spending cutbacks in the face of a horrible economy have NOTHING to do with it....

OH wait, you are one of them elitist banker swine correct? No wonder you dont know **** about what is going on around you.
the prince
 
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Reply Tue 9 Aug, 2011 02:56 am
@hawkeye10,
No it does not. That is a very naive, easy explanation
Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 9 Aug, 2011 02:58 am
@the prince,
Chicken Little here never lets inconventient things like facts get in his way.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 9 Aug, 2011 03:04 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

Chicken Little here never lets inconventient things like facts get in his way.
Here are 3 facts. Almost are under 20 YO, they are burning down their own neighborhoods, and London has loads of youth who have nothing to do and no prospects of things ever getting better.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/reason-for-london-riots-a-mystery-to-all-even-the-rioters/article2123444/

Come on Set, you claim to be a smart guy, what does that tell you??
Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 9 Aug, 2011 03:19 am
@hawkeye10,
Among many other things, the news reports tell me that this has absolutely not the most remote relationship to the so-called "Arab Spring." As usual, you're pulling one of your Chicken Little routines, attempting to tell us that the sky is falling. First Egypt, then Libya, now England--is the U.S. next ? ! ? ! ? Please . . .

It's because of idiotic stunts like this that you have zero credibility here.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 9 Aug, 2011 03:34 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

Among many other things, the news reports tell me that this has absolutely not the most remote relationship to the so-called "Arab Spring." As usual, you're pulling one of your Chicken Little routines, attempting to tell us that the sky is falling. First Egypt, then Libya, now England--is the U.S. next ? ! ? ! ? Please . . .

It's because of idiotic stunts like this that you have zero credibility here.
you will get back to me if you ever come up with a thought on point, yes?
Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 9 Aug, 2011 03:39 am
@hawkeye10,
That's the best you've got, isn't it. You come up with one of your typical bullshit melodramatic "it's the end of civilization as we know it ? ! ? ! ?" stories, and when you're called on it, all you can do is pretend that others don't understand. I know you're a legend in your own mind, but this displays neither comprehension of the situation in London, nor any subtlety of analysis.
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the prince
 
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Reply Tue 9 Aug, 2011 05:25 am
@hawkeye10,
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OH wait, you are one of them elitist banker swine correct? No wonder you dont know **** about what is going on around you.


Yeah, blame it on the bankers. That is the only thing people who do not have a rationale thought in their heads do these days.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 9 Aug, 2011 06:07 am
@hawkeye10,
You clearly don't understand what the term Arab Spring refers to.
the prince
 
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Reply Tue 9 Aug, 2011 06:10 am
@ehBeth,
This is actually "English Summer" rather than "Arab Spring" Razz
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 9 Aug, 2011 06:28 am
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:

You clearly don't understand what the term Arab Spring refers to.
a revolt against social injustice....why, what did you think it was? And why do you cheapen yourself with these drivebyes? You are a more classy broad than that.
the prince
 
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Reply Tue 9 Aug, 2011 06:37 am
@hawkeye10,
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You are a more classy broad than that.


Broad? Shocked
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hingehead
 
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Reply Tue 9 Aug, 2011 06:02 pm
I've been enoying the tweet stream - this for example

The Youth of the Middle East rise up for basic freedoms.The Youth of London rise up for a HD ready 42" Plasma TV
hingehead
 
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Reply Tue 9 Aug, 2011 06:05 pm
@hingehead,
I have a colleague in Huddersfield reporting that a bunch of (mostly) teenage girls are tweeting that riots have broken out there. But they haven't, it's just bollocks and adolescent excitement seeking. Reminds me so much of rumours in little school that the 'sharpies' were going to attack the school. A weird blend of fear and excitement.
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hingehead
 
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Reply Tue 9 Aug, 2011 06:08 pm
More from the bluebird of snappiness

The rioters in UK in £100 trainers organising things on their £300 Smart-phones claim to be in poverty
 

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