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Prohibition on the hiring of any new employees who smoke

 
 
husker
 
Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2004 03:21 pm
Spokane County commissioners have tentatively adopted a prohibition on the hiring of any new employees who smoke.

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SealPoet
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2004 03:22 pm
Definitely a prohibition against hiring heroin addicts.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2004 03:22 pm
Ahhh...I am assuming that you mean "tobacco?"

But I hate to assume, because...well, you know why.

Am I correct?
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husker
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2004 03:24 pm
yes cigarettes
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SealPoet
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2004 03:29 pm
Mind you, I have nothing against people who are hooked on drugs... I just don't like people who smell like a trashfire.
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husker
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2004 03:49 pm
What about drinking coffee (this on irks me - I hate coffee)?
What about people with poor vision or
people who are obese, and
people who have other health issues?

Where did civil rights go?
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2004 03:58 pm
husker wrote:
yes cigarettes



Aha, I was right.

Well in that case -- who cares!
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oldandknew
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2004 04:48 pm
How about expletives, beards, kissing a fellow worker.

I can accept a no smoking regime at work but what I do at home is up to me.
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husker
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2004 05:25 pm
IN this case - smoking at home is a no no!
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Letty
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2004 05:26 pm
Yes, and so it is. The home is the last vestige of one's retreat.
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littlek
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2004 05:26 pm
I think this is a bad route to take, until I think about health insurance and such. But, still, smoking doesn't effect your job performance like other drugs do. Yeah, you stink, but that's a personal problem.
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Slappy Doo Hoo
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2004 05:28 pm
I saw a job listing on monster.com today that listed they don't hire tobacco users.
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littlek
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2004 05:29 pm
It's got to be the insurance.
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Letty
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2004 05:30 pm
LittleK. Isn't everything?

Goodnight from Florida
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littlek
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2004 05:31 pm
yes, I guess most things are. Sigh.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2004 06:27 pm
I wonder if this would hold up to a legal test. I know that a lot of drug testing that was done for insurance purposes in the early 1990's isn't allowed anymore here in Canada.
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husker
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2004 07:22 pm
I think this is something to keep an eye on out - it will have to be tested in court soon - yer well I hope so.
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onyxelle
 
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Reply Wed 14 Jan, 2004 05:01 am
the office of the State Attorney here has that rule Husker, it's right on the application.

How do they know? What if you start smoking after you're hired, will you be fired?

My assumption, is because it's a gov't office and they know the laws (at least, some of them do...beleive me, some of those bozo's don't know the laws) I'm thinking they're no real law against that. But, if you can't NOT hire based on race or sex, how can you not hire based on bad habits?
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Greyfan
 
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Reply Wed 14 Jan, 2004 08:04 am
I think employers may believe smokers are less productive, since they are usually outside smoking. They also tend to be less patient and quicker to anger, particularly when not smoking, which is a somewhat negative factor in relations with other employees and the public.

On the other hand, they tend to die sooner so that helps keep the retirement plan solvent.

Although, since they are more likely to need expensive medical care before they wheeze their last, the cost to the health insurance plan may offset those retirement plan savings.

This sure is a tough one. Too bad the founding fathers forgot to put some sort of protection in the Bill of Rights.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 14 Jan, 2004 08:08 am
Husker's point about obesity is a good one, as it raises all the issues about performance, behavior and medical costs as does smoking. I am a smoker, and am fortunate enough to be able to smoke in my office. But i understand completely the prohibition on smoking in a work place, when that is the case. However, i think strong perfume or cologne should be banned as well. As for the legality, although it might be challenged in court, i doubt that it will. If it were, i doubt it would stand up to the challenge.
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