Wow, there's been a lot of replies since yesterday.
The coup in Iran was in 1953, and it was initially instigated by MI6.
Thanks for the correction in date, though I was only a couple of years out. Whatever the background - the coup was run by Kermit Roosevelt - who was CIA.
I can't think why you list this under conspiracy theories. Eisenhower certainly never tried to hide any of this, and although the details came out slowly, it's been known almost since the day of the event.
I think you must be very confused about what constitutes a conspiracy theory. The take-over of the German government by the NSDAP in 1933 may be deplored, but there was no conspiracy involved. Hitler proceeded by constitutional means.
Walter Hinteler wrote:
I've never heard this to be a conspiracy - especially not a "very famous and true conspiracy".
I was using a very much broader definition of conspiracy to make a point regarding the validity or not of all
conspiracy theories - the only difference between conspiracy and organised ***** is secrecy. Everything else is the same. In the case of the Iran coup - if they had not admitted it/it had not been known, there could legitimately have been a conspiracy theory (would it then have been consigned to the scrap heap, just because it is a 'conspiracy theory'?).
In the case of germany, Walter you perhaps need to read carefully, for I did not say conspiracy theory, and in inverted comma's the single word of 'conspiracy' - though there are multiple facets to this example. In germany's case there's no chance of secrecy for many things at the time, and no chance for secrecy after the fact.... but we have an incredible subversion of an entire nation through underhanded means (legal or not). It again is used as an example of moving a further 'degree' away from conspiracy theory, to known conspiracy (eg CIA coup in Iran), to let's say a government 'conspiracy' to gain absolute power and change the way a nation thinks and behaves.
Also note in the case of germany, at that point in time, their people didn't know that their beliefs were being manipulated through propoganda - the concept of it was almost unknown prior to it's 'invention'. If someone in Germany back then had said 'the government is telling us orchestrated lies through the media in order to get us to in believe events that never happened so that we/germany/the govt can do ***********' it probably wouldn't have been believed. At that specific time, such could be classed as a conspiracy theory.