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How to enforce condo rules (unleashed dogs/not scooping the poop)

 
 
Linkat
 
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Reply Tue 26 Jul, 2011 01:07 pm
@Miller,
Can you read? I stated in several responses that we had called our lawyer.
Miller
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jul, 2011 11:10 am
@Linkat,
Linkat wrote:

Can you read? I stated in several responses that we had called our lawyer.


Does that mean, he/she will be in Court?
Linkat
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jul, 2011 12:35 pm
@Miller,
We are working with him now. Not sure, I know last time we had this - he was no help at court. He only said a few words, the other people did not have a lawyer.

I may just ask him to direct us rather than pay the extra cash seeing he really did nothing for us at court. He was helpful on the advice and going over any documents.
Rockhead
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jul, 2011 12:41 pm
@Linkat,
I cannot help with the rest of your troubles, but I can tell you how to stop the non-poopscooping.

when the offending folks are away, go out and scoop the offending waste yourself.

but instead of throwing it away, make it into a nice pile on their entryway.

the message sinks right in, no matter how dense the culprit...
chai2
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jul, 2011 01:05 pm
@Rockhead,
Heh, a little off the subject rocky, but that reminded me of something from years ago.

My BF and I were living together, and usually had a roommate to help pay expenses.

This one guy didn't last the month.
He was young, which wasn't a problem, so were we.
But he moved in directly from Mommy and Daddy's house, and to him this was going to be a great adventure, staying up as late as he wanted, having friends over any time, etc.

For the first week, I didn't say anything when I'd walk in the kitchen, and find his empty plate and glass in the sink. I'd just wash it along with whatever I came in to wash of my own.

After that, I decided just to leave it. After 2 weeks he said "There aren't any clean forks (or whatever)" I swear to God it sounded like he was going to say "Mom" before that.
Obviously I said "That's because you've used them all up. You haven't noticed that no one is cleaning your dishes, and the pile just gets bigger and bigger?"

He looked confused, seriously. I could tell he just swear to God never thought about stuff like dishes got cleaned and put away.

So, you could put a bucket of dog poop in front of some people doors, and they really won't get the connection that it's the **** that came out of their own dogs ass.
Linkat
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jul, 2011 01:31 pm
@Rockhead,
Up above I commented on that - we had done that in the past.

Although I don't think she intentionally did not scoop, she was not paying attention to the dog and thus did not see him poop.
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Linkat
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jul, 2011 01:33 pm
@chai2,
Yeah she is a little dense. Honestly I think she just doesn't get it. Just doesn't understand that not everyone is going to love her dog coming up to them. Doesn't realize the dog could get hit by a car if he is just standing in the street (like I've seen him do).

Some people just do not get it.
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Linkat
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jul, 2011 01:36 pm
One other thing - my husband talked to the lawyer. He told my husband he could go to the courthouse and get the paper work on the filing. All we got was some paper, telling my husband he is not to go within so many feet or her, talk to her, etc. (Which to be honest he would prefer). And when he "could" show up at court.

The paper work will give details of what she is claiming. So we will know what she is lying about or what she is blowing out of proportion.

Funny thing is my husband called me today and said, some one (assuming it is her since no one else is currently living there) was vaccuming, banging cabinets, dropping things - it was quite loud. Loud sounds you might hear while some one is doing housekeeping. So if she is saying we are making loud noises like that - well she is as well.
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Linkat
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jul, 2011 02:03 pm
So my husband just called. He read what she had written and it was a complete fabrication. She was saying since April 2011 my husband has been banging on the ceiling (and even it was true, how does she know it would be my husband as 3 other people live in the house). This was the date that the expiration of the last harrassment.

That my husband yelled at her - well the kids were right there when he asked if she could move the dog from in front of the door so I highly doubt he yelled.

She is so afraid and sick and her dog is frightened too. Oh so that is why he lays in front of our door. And comes up to us as a nuisance. Yeah he is very frightened.

The funny thing her husband moved out and they are divorcing and she is blaming that on my husband as well. Yes that is in the report as well.
CalamityJane
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jul, 2011 03:55 pm
@Linkat,
Linkat, take pictures of everything she does or when the dog is off the leash
and in front of your door. Document everything in writing and pictures.
There is very little she can do if you have proof of all her violations.
roger
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jul, 2011 04:03 pm
@CalamityJane,
Document everything, indeed. You really don't want to go to court and say something like "She vacumns a lot at night".
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Linkat
 
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Reply Sat 30 Jul, 2011 07:39 am
ok so when I got home, I read the entire "affidavit." How can something make your blood boil and at the same time make you laugh?

The first "claim" stated - on or about April 2011 the defendant began to bang on his ceiling whenever I would walk across my floor, open my kitchen cabinets or make any noice (sic) in my home. An harrassment order had expired on 3/31/11 during which time there wasn't any harrassment.

So apparantly she is claiming once the previous (false) charges had expired my husband immediately began making harassing noises. So I looked up my calendar to see what was going in the month. Well we were on vacation for over a week. We had contractors in to fix some windows, paint and install carpet and some minor wood work. Also, during this time my older daughter was involved in AAU basketball - so we were gone most weekends; and when we were not at basketball games or practice she was in softball along with my younger girl who was on the younger age softball team. My husband during the day, works in our bedroom where the computer is and which is under a different unit.

We have emails, plane tickets, etc. supporting all the contractors, the trip, kids games and practices.
Linkat
 
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Reply Sat 30 Jul, 2011 07:54 am
@Linkat,
Next "claim" - On 6/12/11 I came to police depart as this harassment was causing me to become physically ill. Whenever we attempted to contract our association lawyer, he continues to tell me to let it go...a few weeks ago, Mr. Linkat yelled at me as I was getting into my car."

So I looked to see what was going on around that time frame. School was finishing, basketball tournaments were every weekend, including that Sunday, 6/12. My younger daughter had a softball game that Sunday as well. We had three showings that weekend, 2 on Saturday and one on Sunday. So we were not around pretty much all of 6/11 and 6/12. I could see we could have been louder than normal that Friday and Saturday to get ready for the showings/cleaning and stuff. But we always make sure we keep things quiet from 9pm to 8am.

I was also curious about the comment from the management company as it doesn't sound like him so I called him. I asked him if anyone was complaining about noise from us. I said I would hope he would let us know under the circumstances. We haven't being doing anything unusual and if we were causing some sort of problem, I'd like to know so I could change some habits, if possible. He was vague so I went straight out and asked if he or his lawyer said in reference to noise complaints - to just let it go. He paused and seemed to take offense - and said No we would not deal with it like that. I told him I wouldn't think so as he is always responsive even when we are mean to him.

Then I found what I think is the cause of her going to the police. That was the week she received her notice about the dog being unleashed. I have an email I sent to the management company in reference to her dog being unleashed/peeing on my dog...with the management co's response. And also the date their letter was sent out. So most likely she received this letter mid to end of week prior to the 12th.
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Linkat
 
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Reply Sat 30 Jul, 2011 08:11 am
Last claim - Last firday 7/22 my husband initiated his moving to a new residence as we rare going to divorce. The banging on the ceiling and the slamming on cabinets was so bad, I called and requested the police to come. Officer L attempted to speak with the linkats however neither one answered the door.

Well that Friday, I was in the kitchen/livingroom/laundry cleaning and getting stuff ready for our showing the next morning (email with scheduled showing will be provided). Hubby was in the back cleaning bathrooms and bedrooms. After finishing I sat down and watched some tv. I was sitting long when I heard three bangs in the kitchen (directly on my ceiling/her floor); then I heard her footsteps going over my kitchen to the livingroom where I heard three more bangs. I thought screw this and went to the bedroom to watch the sox game with my husband.

A while later my daughter came in from playing outside and said our neighbor was talking to the police about her dog not being leashed. I said to my husband, so some one else called the police about this. She went back out to play with her sister and friends. We did not hear a knock or doorbell. Our dog did not bark as he normally would do if some one was at the door.
Linkat
 
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Reply Sat 30 Jul, 2011 08:19 am
@Linkat,
Her conclusion - I feel as if i am living in fear! My every move is followed by banging on the ceiling. Of note, whenever they make noise, I never bang on the floor or slam cabinets. My dog is petrified as am I.

What the f---? Her dog is petrified so petrified that he lays in front of our door blocking our exit without slamming the door into him. So petrified that he comes running across the street when I walk to my car. Never banged? It just happened. Living in fear? What even if my husband did yell at her (which he asked her to move her dog from in front of our door my 12 year old right next to him) - yelling at some one once instills fear? If that were true, all teachers would have harrassment charges on them.

And how is it even possible that her every move is followed? We are not home most M-T from 4 - 9 with travel softball practices and games. One daughter plays M and W, the other T and T - my husband coaches them both and he has practice before each game with is at 6 and usually goes until 8 with travel, cleaning up equipment and team talk, we are not usually home until close to 9. On at least one occassion, I went home first before going to the game, I heard the neighbor walking above and the dog playing - I was sitting down. Now the h*ll did I manage to reach up and bang the ceiling at 5'2"? So there is no way he could be following her every move seeing he isn't sitting in the livingroom 24/7.
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Linkat
 
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Reply Sat 30 Jul, 2011 08:21 am
Sorry it is long, but I wanted the details out there in case I missed something or if anyone has any other thoughts on what I should look for. We hope to have a meeting with our lawyer and then after what we went through before it actually seems better to go to the court without a lawyer. The judge almost seemed to take offense that we brought a lawyer with us.
chai2
 
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Reply Sat 30 Jul, 2011 01:12 pm
taking a break from my saturday banging and cleaning, and reading along.

what a nut.
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Sat 30 Jul, 2011 06:04 pm
@Linkat,
So, is there any outcome of all this yet?
I sure hope you're selling your place in a hurry before someone gets hurt.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 30 Jul, 2011 07:00 pm
@CalamityJane,
I agree with CJane. I see this woman as a potential serious problem, however this particular ridiculousness works out.
Document, document, document, but you already know that.

Maybe we are wrong and she is too stupid. Stll.
I predict her next move will be to put their place up for sale.

Maybe will try to intersect with your potential buyers.

Which brings up the matter of disclosure about neighborhood problems.

If I have any advice, and I'm doltish on this stuff, it is to get a serious lawyer, perhaps not to act out in this particular instance, but to get involved, as a consult.
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Linkat
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jul, 2011 10:02 am
@CalamityJane,
We go to court on Wednesday morning - please think of us.

We dropped our price so low. It is below assessed value; it is significantly lower than any unit has sold for at our square footage - at least $50k lower than any has sold for. So we are being very aggressive. This week we had one showing - I think this weekend will be slow due to the debt ceiling stuff - I think people are waiting that out.
 

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