It is quite shocking that u 'd think that America
wanted to inflict the horrors of the French Revolution on the English.
We were innocent of that.
Alright David perhaps I am being a bit too extreme. It's all a question of where you're sitting. I don't honestly believe that the ordinary American in 1812 wanted to do such a thing. France and England have been enemies since 1066. During the Napoleonic Wars Britain, (not just England, it was after the Act of Union) faced one of the biggest threats of invasion ever. We had witnessed what the revolutionaries had done to their own people. What would they have done to the old enemy?
I get a bit fed up with all the Brit bashing whenever the Revolution is mentioned. You seem to hold the founding fathers as some sort of group of Saints, which is fine. You then expect everyone else to blindly accept that. We also have to take the part of the black hearted villain with good grace. George III is vilified as some sort of Geogian Nero, but in terms of monarchs he wasn't that bad. He was very interested in modern agriculture, was concerned about the common man and lived a rather modest lifestyle, for a monarch. Compare him with his son to see a figure more befitting of the title Nero.
Your founding fathers were not wholly altruistic Saints. A lot of them did very well out of the Revolution. George Washington became the first American millionaire. I'm not saying the American Revolution wasn't a bad thing. America is by and large a wonderful country, but it was founded by men with their own vices, not saints.
I also don't think that I should get down on my knees and thank every American for their wartime contribution. Britain and Russia could not have won the war alone, but to hear some Americans talk you'd think America did it all single handed. Not only that but we get Hollywood blockbusters telling blatant lies. Band of Brothers, and more recently the Pacific were two wonderful wartime series which acurately showed the wartime experience and contribution of American troops. Not to mention the outstanding bravery.
Other films are not nearly so truthful. I'm not talking about films like Inglorious Basturds, which everyone knows is a load of nonsense, but films like U-571 which portrays itself as being historically accurate, but is a complete lie.
1) U boat crew are presented as evil murdering Nazis, whereas most of them were quite decent. I don't think any U boat crew were prosecuted for war crimes.
2) An American ship captures the enigma machine. The Enigma machine was captured by HMS Bulldog before America entered the war. Not only that the enigma codebreaking operation was an almost entirely British affair, run from Bletchley Park. Most analysts say it shortened the war by about 2 years, but we don't go on about that. (I know I did go on about it then but it's just once).
Having said that, I'm sorry if I've offended you and Setanta. I do think America is a wonderful country with lots of lovely people. Nuff said.