If everything that exists needs a God to create it, who created God?

The Egyptians created Ra.




Moses modified the concept and created Jehova. Smart guy, that Moses.

All created things need a creator But God Almighty is uncreated.
If the Creator is Eternal and Everlasting, then His attributes must also be Eternal and Everlasting. He should not lose any of His attributes nor acquire new ones. If this is so, then His attributes are absolute. Can there be more than one Creator with such absolute attributes? Can there be for example, two absolutely powerful Creators? A moment’s thought shows that this is not feasible.

The Qur’an summarizes this argument in the following verses:

“No son did Allah beget, nor is there any god along with Him: (if there were many gods), behold, each god would have taken away what he had created, and some would have lorded it over others! Glory to Allah! (He is free) from the (sort of) things they attribute to Him!”

[Al-Qur’an 23:91]

The Oneness Of God

The Qur’an reminds us of the falsity of all alleged gods. To the worshippers of man-made objects it asks: “Worship ye that which ye have (yourselves) carved? But Allah has created you and your handwork.”[Al-Qur’an 37:95-96]

“Say: ‘Do ye then take (for worship) protectors other than Him, such as have no power either for good or for harm to themselves?” [Al-Qur’an 13:16]

To the worshippers of heavenly bodies it cites the story of Abraham: “When the night covered him over, He saw a star: He said: ‘This is my Lord.’ But when it set, He said: ‘I love not those that set.’ When he saw the moon rising in splendor, he said: ‘This is my Lord.’ But when the moon set, He said: ‘unless my Lord guide me, I shall surely be among those who go astray.’ When he saw the sun rising in splendor, he said: ‘This is my Lord; this is the greatest (of all).’ But when the sun set, he said: ‘O my people! I am indeed free from your (guilt) of giving partners to Allah. For me, I have set my face, firmly and truly, towards Him Who created the heavens and the earth, and never shall I give partners to Allah.” [Al-Qur’an 6:76-79]
Having achieved this knowledge of the One True God, man should constantly have faith in Him, and should allow nothing to induce him to deny the truth. When true faith enters a person’s heart, it impacts the person’s outlook and behavior. The Prophet said, “Faith is that which resides firmly in the heart and which is proved by deeds”. One of the striking results of faith is the feeling of gratitude towards God, which could be said to be the essence of Ibada (worship). The feeling of gratitude is so important that anyone denying the Truth is called kafir, ‘one who is ungrateful.’ A believer loves, and is grateful to God for the bounties He bestowed upon him. He is aware of the fact that his good deeds are far from being commensurate with Divine favors, and therefore he is always anxious to please God. He remembers God often. The Qur’an promotes this feeling of gratitude by repeating the attributes of God very frequently.

“Allah is He, than Whom there is no other god; Who knows (all things) both secret and open; He, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. Allah is He, than Whom there is no other god; the Sovereign, the Holy One, the Source of Peace (and Perfection), the Guardian of Faith, the Preserver of Safety, the Exalted in Might, the Irresistible, the Supreme: Glory to Allah! (High is He) above the partners they attribute to Him. He is Allah, the Creator, the Evolver, the Bestower of Forms (or Colors). To Him belong the Most Beautiful Names: whatever is in the heavens and on earth, doth declare His Praises and Glory: and He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise.” [Al-Qur’an 59:22-24]

“Allah! There is no god but He, the Living, the Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber can seize Him nor sleep. His are all things in the heavens and on earth. Who is there can intercede in His presence except as He permitteth? He knoweth what (appeareth to His creatures as) before or after or behind them. Nor shall they compass aught of His knowledge except as He willeth. His Throne doth extend over the heavens and the earth, and He feeleth no fatigue in guarding and preserving them for He is the Most High, the Supreme (in glory).” [Al-Qur’an 2:255]

“O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not “Trinity” : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.” [Al-Qur’an 4:171]

Is it true that humans perceive time according to sequences of events?

Probably. In that case, what was the first event?

The Bible refers to Jesus as the "firstborn of all creation", (Colossians 1:15), further stating in vs. 16 "because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible . ."

Does that imply that Jehovah, whose name means "He who causes to become" existed before events? Before time?

Perhaps the human perception of time is not on the same plane as that of Jehovah.

According to Egyptian mythology, Ra created himself, and humans from his tears.

If the scriptures were all we knew of God it speaks this answer quite clear. God is Spirit. I understand that not many understand exactly what this means (Including most people who read the scriptures).

This question has got to be the most ignorant of questions ever asked.
I am a thing, you are a thing the earth is a thing the Universe is a thing which contains things. God is not a thing but the creator of things. Everything we know in existence are physical things which all had a beginning and will eventually have an end.

God, according to the scriptures and of a scientific necessity, is and must be outside if His creation, (or better yet, CREATION IS INSIDE OF HIM), having no beginning because he has always been. He is outside of this illusion we call time.

Just because your physical brain cannot comprehend something TIMELESS, IMMORTAL, due to being intellectually limited to only looking as deep as our known universe and all it contains, does not demand that a timeless entity requires yet another creator to create Him. This is just foolishness and a weak attempt at offering a question assuming it is unanswerable.

With this in mind, What leads one to assume that a timeless, immortal entity must have a creator?

Peace

I believe "god" is nature itself with all its evolution in flux (climate change) and the inability of humans to understand everything there is about it.

We are our biology and environment; nothing more, nothing less. We don't even know if humans will remain on this planet for the foreseeable future.

We might be the next dinosaurs; who knows?

It is because of God’s will that all things “existed and were created.” (Re 4:11) Jehovah, who has existed for all time, was alone before creation had a beginning.—Ps 90:1, 2; 1Ti 1:17.
While Jehovah, who is a Spirit (Joh 4:24; 2Co 3:17), has always existed, that is not true of the matter of which the universe is made. Hence, when creating the literal heavens and earth, Jehovah did not use preexistent material. This is clear from Genesis 1:1, which says: “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.” If matter had always existed, it would have been inappropriate to use the term “beginning” with reference to material things. However, after creating the earth, God did form “from the ground every wild beast of the field and every flying creature of the heavens.” (Ge 2:19) He also formed man “out of dust from the ground,” blowing into his nostrils the breath of life so that the man became a living soul.—Ge 2:7.

Yeah, but the Egyptians' myth predates Moses'.
He must have composed his story while he was
still an adopted member of an Egyptian household.

Here's yet more blasphemy you can
find on Google.

There is necessary existence, that always exists, and made contingent existence which had a beginning. Necessary existence that can do that, with design for the universe that it can contain life, existing everywhere eternally, is properly called God.

Name any physical thing in this world that had a beginning and explain what it began as?

God is outside of time and space, so the thinking is that He has always existed.

Kismet and christ on a cracker coincidence.

Your first post here is to address moi about mya post in 2011MYA CE, viz. "be god".

It was a typo, I left out an o.

Godspeed on your journey into the soteriological and spiritual dimensions of ontology and epistemology.

This question highlights a common philosophical point: in many beliefs, God is considered an eternal, uncreated being who doesn’t require a creator, unlike everything else in the universe.

A fart, normally begins with a loud squeak.

That's handy.

Posted previously in wrong thread.
“According to the ancient Buddhistss, we live in an eternal oscillating universe that expands outward and contracts back to its beginning in space time. A universe that exists in the two states of seemingly visible matter and invisible energy.”

“Universe after universe is like an interminable succession of wheels forever coming into view, forever rolling onwards, disappearing and reappearing; forever passing from being too non-being, and again from non-being to being. In short, the constant revolving of the wheel of life in one eternal cycle, according to fixed and immutable laws, is perhaps after all, the sum and substance of the philosophy of Buddhism. And this eternal wheel has so to speak, six spokes representing six forms of existence.” ---- Mon. Williams, Buddhism, pp. 229, 122.

Very similar to the ancient Hebrew belief, which states that it took six creative periods for the entire universe to be created, or as stated in Genesis 2: 4; Six generations of the universe: six separate periods of universal activity and light, followed by six periods of darkness, which lasted for the same duration as the periods of activity and light.

This aligns with the six spokes on the Buddhists eternal wheel of life, which represent six separate forms of existence or six different generations of the universe. In many ancient cultures such as the Hebrews, their day began with a 12 hour period of darkness and rest, followed by an equal period of light and activity before the light vanished and a new period began with darkness. The universal day begins with the Big Crunch, followed by the Big Bang


The days and nights of Brahma are called Manvantara, or the cycle of manifestation, ‘The Great Day,’ which is a period of universal activity, that is preceded, and also followed by ‘Pralaya,’ a dark period, which to our finite minds would seem as an eternity, or but a moment in time.
‘Manvantara,’ is a creative day as seen in the six days of creation in Genesis, ‘Pralaya,’ is the evening that proceeds the next creative day. The six periods of Creation and the seventh day of rest are referred to in the book of Genesis 2: 4; as the “GENERATIONS OF THE UNIVERSE.”

The English word “Generation,” is translated from the Hebrew “toledoth,” which is used in the Old Testament in every instance as ‘births,’ or ‘descendants,’ such as “These are the generations of Adam,” or “these are the generations of Abraham, and Genesis 2: 4; it is written concerning the six days of creation; “These are the generations of the universe, which is aligned with the six spokes on the wheel of life which represent six forms of existence.

A series of worlds following one upon the other-- each world rising a step higher than the previous world, so that every later world brings to ripeness the seeds that were imbedded in the former, and itself then prepares the seed for the universe that will follow it. With each new generation, the previous generation is first resurrected to begin the eternal process of evolution, Creating the next generation.

When, at the end of each period of universal activity, all the material which has not been swallowed by the ever growing devouring Black holes, is orbiting the last devouring Cosmic Giant. It too will be swallowed and torn to pieces molecule by molecule, atom by atom, sub-atomic particle by sub-atomic particle until all that remains is the photons or wave particles that the universe was created from and at the bottom of the tornado-like worm-hole within the BLACK ABYSS, those wave-particles will be crushed back into the singularity from which it originated and all the information gathered in that Cosmic cycle will go with it. This is the memory of that cycle and the great evolving “THOUGHT” from which that universal body will be resurrected, from which the next generation will evolve, from which information of which information, the “Great thought will continue to evolve.

Pioneering physicist Sir James Jeans wrote: “The stream of knowledge is heading toward a non-mechanical reality; the universe begins to look more like ‘A GREAT THOUGHT’ than like a great machine. Mind no longer appears to be an accidental intruder into the realm of matter, we ought rather hail it as the creator and governor of the realm of matter. (R. C. Henry, “The Mental Universe”; Nature 436:29, 2005)

13.8 billion years ago, there was an event called the “Big Bang” when the condensed remnants of the previous universal body, which had been crushed into a singularity within the great Dark Abyss, was spatially separated, creating space, momentum and time and a swirling shimmering pool of liquid-like electromagnetic energy in the trillions upon trillions of degrees. Over nearly fourteen billion years that energy which has neither beginning or end has become this entire universe and all that live in it.

A singularity is a region of space-time in which matter is crushed so closely together that the gravitational laws explained by general relativity break down. In a singularity, the volume of space is zero and its density is infinite. Scientists believe such a singularity exists at the core of a black hole, which occurs when a super-massive sun reaches the end of its life and implodes. General relativity also demands such a singularity must exist at the beginning of an expanding universe.

Within that ever-cooling cosmic cloud of wave particles, which wave particles are the quantum of that liquid like electromagnetic energy, and are not really particles at all as they have zero mass and no electric charge, yet they carry angular and linear momentum.
One would expect, that those wave particles which are the quantum of the liquid like electromagnetic energy, would have continued to expand further and further away from each other in the expansion of the universal building material.

But with the angular momentum of those waves, they collided with each other in nuclear fusion in the creation of the first basic sub-atomic particles. As the universal temperature dropped to some billions of degrees, the dark energy which was the expansion’s acceleration force, began to form into dark matter, hydrogen and helium, with trace quantities of lithium, beryllium, and boron.

As the universe expanded and cooled, more hydrogen molecules were formed, [which is the simplest possible molecule. It consists of two protons and two electrons held together by electrostatic forces]. and from these, after some thirty million years of attraction, came the formation of the first gigantic Hydrogen stars, [Massive atomic reactors] from which the galaxies would later be created. Although, it is said today that Astronomers with their new telescopes can see light from a time when the Universe was only 380,000 years old:

And God said, “Let there be light.” Which was not the light from the sun of this minor solar system within our Milky Way galaxy, which solar system would not be created for some nine billion years after the creation of the MILKY WAY Galaxy with it’s massive stars that lit up the darkness of the bottomless pit, in which massive nuclear reactors the heavier elements were created.

Bursting into life and light throughout the primitive universe over an unknown period of time, those first generation stars would have been thousands upon thousands of times as massive as our Sun and millions of times as bright, but each one burned for only a few million years before meeting a violent end, when they exploded out in a brilliant flash before collapsing in upon themselves creating the massive centrally condensed systems called ‘Black Holes.’ “The BIG CRUNCH” had begun," as those Black Holes began devouring anything of less mass that came in contact with them even other Black Holes until only one remains, "The great Abyss."

Nah.

I've heard loads of big bangs, lots of them.

However, none of them are bigger than the origin event, so by reasoning it's not the Big Bang, or even the Bigger Bang, but the Biggest Bang.