Texas passes voter ID law

@High Seas,

This on page 14 of Kennedy's opinion.

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The burdens that are relevant to the issue before us are
those imposed on persons who are eligible to vote but do
not possess a current photo identification that complies
with the requirements of SEA 483.16 The fact that most
voters already possess a valid driver’s license, or some
other form of acceptable identification, would not save the
statute under our reasoning in Harper, if the State re-
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quired voters to pay a tax or a fee to obtain a new photo
identification. But just as other States provide free voter
registration cards, the photo identification cards issued by
Indiana’s BMV are also free. For most voters who need
them, the inconvenience of making a trip to the BMV,
gathering the required documents, and posing for a photo-
graph surely does not qualify as a substantial burden on
the right to vote, or even represent a significant increase
over the usual burdens of voting.17

Charging a fee for the required voter ID would fail the test of a poll tax according to Kennedy, one of 3 in a split majority decision, and would make the statute invalid. Providing free IDs prevented that from happening.

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@parados,

Parados,
You contend that every US citizen should have the right to vote, but do you have any exceptions to that?

For example, I live in Ky. If I vacation in Fairbanks Alaska, and they are having a local election, should I have the right to vote in that election?

Also, should people at least be able to read and write before they vote?

And what would you use as a minimum age to vote?
And what about those US citizens being held in foreign prisons?
If they are incommunicado, should they be able to vote?

And should Anwar Awlaki be allowed to vote?
After all, he is a US citizen.

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@mysteryman,

mysteryman wrote:

Parados,
You contend that every US citizen should have the right to vote, but do you have any exceptions to that?

For example, I live in Ky. If I vacation in Fairbanks Alaska, and they are having a local election, should I have the right to vote in that election?

Why would you think I support voting where you are vacationing? People vote where they live.

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Also, should people at least be able to read and write before they vote?

No such requirement. Most places allow helpers for those that can't read or mark the ballot themselves.

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And what would you use as a minimum age to vote?

Why not 18 as it is?

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And what about those US citizens being held in foreign prisons?

If they can get an absentee ballot and aren't restricted by law from voting, why not?

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If they are incommunicado, should they be able to vote?

Now you are being ridiculous. Why don't you ask if dead people can vote?

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And should Anwar Awlaki be allowed to vote?
After all, he is a US citizen.

Which state is he a resident of?

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@parados,

New Mexico.
I wonder if he's allowed to vote in Yemen?

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@panzade,

panzade wrote:

I wonder if he's allowed to vote in Yemen?

He has dual citizenship. One should look up the relevant election law in Yemen.

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@mysteryman,

There are many reasons good and bad for taking the right to vote from a citizen however one the reasons should not be that you are poor and tend not to vote for the GOP.

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@BillRM,

Remember one thing, citizens do not have the right to vote in a
presidential election... the vote of the poor is owned by the left.

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@H2O MAN,

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Remember one thing, citizens do not have the right to vote in a
presidential election... the vote of the poor is owned by the left.

It look like it time to break out the guns and thanks to the GOP there is a lot more poor then ever before.

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@BillRM,

How is your life in opposite land?

It is the left that has trashed our economy and created higher numbers of 'poor'
and Obama is this nations #1 gun salesman 3 years running.

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@H2O MAN,

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It is the left that has trashed our economy and created higher numbers of 'poor'
and Obama is this nations #1 gun salesman 3 years running.

Good luck is selling that theory to anyone with a brain working as it was the GOP who ruin the economic under Bush and it is the GOP who wish to take away medicare so the super rich can have another tax break.

From 35 percent tax rate to 25 percents.

Having half the total wealth of the nation is not enough for them as there seem no end point beyond complete slavery of everyone but the top one or two percents of the country.

Oh well under slavery perhaps the masters will provide at least the level of medical care that is now require of you to give to your pet animals.

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@BillRM,

Billie, you are a delusional fool that knows nothing about the talking points you are spewing.

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@H2O MAN,

You far right white guys are going to need to stop playing with your firearms and start playing with your women as you are being out breed by the brown and blacks and the end of the US as you had known and love it is coming the end.

Not matter how many games you try playing with the right to vote or how hard you try to get around the 14 amendment the days of the white sheets is coming to an end.

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@BillRM,

Billie, get your head out of your ass.

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@H2O MAN,

Poor baby go oil your gun and by the time you are done their should be a few hundreds more mexico-american born.

All just as must citizens as you are.

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@parados,

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Why would you think I support voting where you are vacationing? People vote where they live.

And exactly how do I prove where I live?

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No such requirement. Most places allow helpers for those that can't read or mark the ballot themselves.

And do those helpers tell the people that cant read HOW to vote?
Also, should the severely mentally retarded be allowed to vote?
If someone doesnt have the mental capacity to understand the ballot, but they are US citizens, should they be allowed to vote?
I am talking about those people that are adults with the minds of babies.

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Why not 18 as it is?

Arent you now telling someone that is under 18 that they dont have the right to vote, at least not yet.
Even though they ARE US citizens.

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Why don't you ask if dead people can vote?

They already do, especially in Chicago.

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Which state is he a resident of?

He was born in New Mexico.
But you obviously have no idea who he is, so I will tell you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_al-Awlaki

Read that and tell me if he has the right to vote.
Remember, he is a US citizen, and he has not been convicted of any crimes.

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@mysteryman,

Voting is based on where a person actually lives.
You have to give an address to register. That address is checked usually by sending the voter registration to it by mail.

Proving anything is impossible MM. There has to be some trust and a reasonable assumption. If a person has an ID with an address on it, that is where they are registered to vote. If they don't have an ID then they have to sign an affidavit or have something else to show residency. It varies from state to state. If they don't reside in the state why do you think they should be able to vote there? I don't. There is an issue when a person has a residence in more than one state. Most people don't have that issue.

It is illegal for those people helping voters to tell them who to vote for. As long as a person can register, they can vote in my opinion. If you want to start IQ testing then you have created a standard that has no sharp line.

When you can show me dead people that voted, get back to me MM.

If Anwar al-Awlaki has an official place of residency in New Mexico, is registered at the place of residency and is willing to apply for an absentee ballot then let him vote. I doubt he will be willing to have his mail forwarded to him however. My question was to show that you had no idea MM. Anwar al-Awlaki is not a resident of any US state to my knowledge and therefore would not be eligible to vote. He doesn't meet the residency requirement.

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@mysteryman,

mysteryman wrote:

If someone doesnt have the mental capacity to understand the ballot, but they are US citizens, should they be allowed to vote?

Sure. We let Republicans vote all the time.

mysteryman wrote:

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Why don't you ask if dead people can vote?

They already do, especially in Chicago.

They're not dead. They're "life-challenged."

mysteryman wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_al-Awlaki

Read that and tell me if he has the right to vote.
Remember, he is a US citizen, and he has not been convicted of any crimes.

If he's a registered voter, why should he be denied the right to vote?

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@BillRM,

Billie, wtf is a mexico-american?

You seem to be hung up on mexican people so I will ask you a serious question.

How do you feel about the US just gifting California and all of its
citizens that choose to stay in that bankrupt **** hole to Mexico?

And my guns require grease, not oil and not very often.

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@H2O MAN,

I think that Arizona at least should be return to Mexico or better yet just kick them out of the union and we all can enjoy watching the good old boys alone dealing with the Mexico army.

Afterward the good old boys or those that are still alive at least can enjoy being treated as second class Mexican citizens.

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@BillRM,

The Americans in Arizona would decimate the Mexican army

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