Did Waterboarding lead to the death of Osama?

Of course not. That's sick. You really need help, pal.

That “match” between the known details about Abu Ahmed’s background and the composite agency profile helped CIA officials cut through multiple conflicting accounts — and considerable misinformation — about the identity of bin Laden’s courier, the official said.

Once the match was made, the official said, analysts intensified their hunt for Abu Ahmed. If they could find Abu Ahmed, they reasoned, they just might be able to find bin Laden himself.

The information about the use of “profiling” fleshes out the story of how agency officials were finally able to locate bin Laden after a frustrating search that spanned nearly a decade. Those and other new details would appear to conflict with claims in recent days that waterboarding or other “enhanced interrogation techniques” produced some blockbuster piece of information that led to bin Laden’s death.

A mysterious, well-placed Kuwaiti
The story began in late 2002, when detainees at Guantanamo described a mysterious Kuwaiti man who seemed to be in bin Laden’s inner circle. As first reported by NBC, one of the first — if not the first — to do so was Mohammed Qahtani, the suspected 20th hijacker for the 9/11 attacks, who tried but failed to enter the U.S. at the Orlando airport in August 2001.

A Defense Department Joint Task Force assessment of Qahtani, released last month by WikiLeaks, describes the information provided by the prisoner they called “Maad al-Qahtani” after abusive interrogations that were later described by one senior Bush administration official as meeting the legal definition of torture.

The document contains multiple references to his interactions with a mysterious al-Qaida operative identified as “Abu Ahmad al-Kuwaiti.” The document states that before being dispatched to board a plane to Orlando, Qahtani received computer training in Karachi, Pakistan, from the Kuwaiti operative "for his mission to the United States."

The document further states that Qahtani told interrogators that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed had directed Al-Kuwaiti to teach him how to use email and had taken him to an Internet café for his training. The Kuwaiti operative is further described in the document as a “senior al-Qaida facilitator” and “courier” who was a subordinate to Mohammed.

The document includes this note: “Al Kuwaiti was seen in Tora Bora and it is possible al-Kuwaiti was one of the individuals … accompanying UBL (Osama bin Laden) in Tora Bora prior to UBL’s disappearance.”

When U.S. intelligence officials first heard this information in late 2002 and early 2003, they had no idea who “Al Kuwaiti” really was. And they soon received conflicting reports that threw them off the trail.

Did harsh interrogations work?
Because U.S. military officials later concluded that Qahtani was subjected to abusive and “degrading” interrogations — including being chained to a leash and forced to perform dog tricks — his case could provide ammunition to defenders of such methods.

But Defense Department records and interviews with U.S. officials show that three other detainees who were also subjected to extremely rough interrogations provided misleading or false information about the Kuwaiti courier.

You damn right I'd resort to violence and that violence would be directed toward the thug.

His children aren't even in this scenario. You have just made your own scenario now a part of mine. Expected.

You can't answer my question so you have to redirect the point. That's because you're dishonest and I suspect you always have been.

You can't answer the hard questions.

You didn't answer the question, which is what do YOU do to with the thug?

I would not resort to violence. We are different. I gave a hard answer to a question. To elaborate, the best chance I'd have to get my theoretical children back would be to involve the authorities. That would be very difficult, but it would be the best chance I'd have.

Yes, I would resort to violence and I would get my children back.

You would turn the thug over to the cops who will tell him he has the right to remain silent and he will.

My children are very happy you are not their father.

It's an analogy. Duh.

Do you still believe we obtained no info about Osama from "torture"?

But of course it is not, it is a political debate.

At least it is for the Left.