@Walter Hinteler,
Yes, when he wrote it was never an interest to me. It’s that he traced the family history to a much earlier time that got my attention.
@Lash,
Lash wrote: I just read that the name is suspected to derive from Middle German, meaning “branch or seedling”.
'Branch' would be "ast" (plural "este"), while seedling was "setzelinc" or "sätzling" [as it still is today] in Middle High German. (A "sätzling" means a cut branch, used for getting a new tree.)
@Walter Hinteler,
They suspect the surname is an alternate spelling of a German surname, translated in Middle Low German.
I owe the thread an apology. I’m leaving this here and starting another thread with a title aligned to this Brit genealogy conversation. It’s been quite fascinating, and renewed my interest.
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Old Saxon, also known as Old Low German, is a West Germanic language. It is documented from the 9th century until the 12th century, when it evolved into Middle Low German. It was spoken on the north-west coast of Germany and in Denmark by Saxon peoples.
I am so tired of hearing about it which is kinda sad really. Its been a week & there is still press about her dad, his ex etc. I mean come on its over!!! Di was "hounded" by the media, let it go guys!! Not everyone wants to know what kind of milk they eat on there Wheaties!!!
@Agent1741,
Well go to a different thread then? Nobody's forcing you to contribute to this one. I'm not interested in the Royal wedding either, but plenty of my American friends derive great pleasure from it, and I'm not some bloody killjoy.
If you'd actually read the thread you'd find we're not talking about the Royal wedding but the attractions that the beautiful counties on the South Coast have to offer.
I'm spending this morning watching the Royal Ascot. What a treat!
I don't know that it has been televised here before. I've never seen a racetrack quite like this before--so plush and green---and the entire setting and ambience is so attractive and elegant. The Queen, and other Royals,
certaiinly add to that.
I'm really enjoying it all--the men in morning attire with their top hats, the women in lovely dresses and festive hats, and, of course, the magnificent horses and the races. The first race winner, a horse named Arthur Kitt, even has a moving backstory.
I'm an unabashed Anglophile, and i'm happy I'm able to enjoy a bit of the Royal Ascot today. Got to go now, the Royal Diamond Jubilee Sweepstakes are about to get underway.
@firefly,
firefly wrote:
I'm really enjoying it all--the men in morning attire with their top hats, the women in lovely dresses and festive hats, and, of course, the magnificant. horses and the races. The first race winner, a horse namef Arthur Kitt, even has a moving backstory.
There's been a lot of trouble at the races recently.
Quote:The Racecourse Association is confident that it can prevent fighting at venues from becoming an endemic problem after two weekends of violence at Goodwood and Ascot.
A mass brawl at Goodwood on Bank Holiday weekend was followed by similarly vicious scenes at Ascot on Saturday, albeit on a smaller scale.
With footage of both fights widely available on social media, the worry for racing is that it becomes the ‘in’ place for a scrap when it aims to be a family-friendly sport.
While at the moment they are two small camp fires the concern is that, fanned by the wind of publicity on social media, it becomes an out-of-control bushfire and begins to undo all the good done by racecourses in the past few years.
Officials have worked to make venues civilised places where you can take children and grandparents and worry about neither.
The protagonists at both incidents appeared to be fit young men in smart suits clearly well-off enough to buy the best tickets and plenty of drink. Racecourses find themselves on the horns of a dilemma; promoting themselves as safe yet well aware that the sale of alcohol is a useful income stream.
In that respect, the RCA is not coming at this issue from a standing start. It has had the Pace Yourself campaign in place for four years and, a beefed-up version, Pace Yourself Plus, has been introduced this year to tackle the issue of recreational drugs.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/racing/2018/05/14/racing-confident-can-halt-spectator-violence-fighting-atgoodwood/
I have ridiculously inexplicable ‘feelings’ about these girls and their mom. When Fergie arrived on the scene, goading Diana into doing things I wouldn’t do if I were repping for the crown, I liked her. But later, her attempts to cash in on her ‘in’ with the royal family really turned me against her in a big way.
Of course, then she’s ostracized—and dammit, I feel sorry for her. Confounding to have any feelings at all about people I don’t know...
So, now I look at the girls and their mom. Something about those wide smiles, big teefs, and garish eyes and fascinators make them seem out of place. Like the trailer contingent of the Windsors.
Like I said: Ridiculous.
@izzythepush,
I couldn't resist the hello mag coverage. I've been a fan of royal coverage since I was a little kid sitting on the library floor looking at tiny books with pictures of Charles and Ann as tinies.
just one link
https://ca.hellomagazine.com/brides/02018101247761/princess-eugenie-meghan-markle-wedding-dress-comparison
ok 2
they're cute
https://ca.hellomagazine.com/royalty/02018101247864/princess-eugenie-bridal-party-outfits-gift-bags
@izzythepush,
Quote:Princess Eugenie has married her long-term partner Jack Brooksbank at St George's Chapel in Windsor Castle.
The ninth in line to the throne was watched by her grandmother, the Queen, and Prince Philip, along with other members of her family.
This made me a little sad. Isn't Philip her grandfather?
@Lash,
I don't think they look any more peculiar than the other royals. They're all a bit horsey.
@izzythepush,
hope there wont be a"wedding swag" riot like occured at Tzar Nicholas's big barbecue. Hundreds of people were killed at that one and kinda messed up the weekend
@farmerman,
I doubt it. The wedding is over, everyone has gone home.
@izzythepush,
oooh, I was out of touch unless we had wifi at the hotels.