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lockeWiggins
 
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Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2011 03:55 pm
does anyone here have children?
Mame
 
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Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2011 03:55 pm
@lockeWiggins,
lockeWiggins wrote:

Lol of course throw words in my mouth because thats what I said... but its ok ill own to what you say i said.

It is bleeding hearts like you that are the reason that parents are so afraid to discipline their children that america is filled with the brats of present. And if you dont have children which Im guessing you dont or else you would understand, then one day you will understand my point.


I have two grown children who are productive, constructive, well-adjusted, tax-paying members of society. I disciplined a bit (probably spanked them twice when they were 4 or 5), but otherwise, they didn't need it. My daughter never walked around in short skirts and my son didn't throw eggs at houses. They are NICE children, respectful to me and inclusive of me in their lives. They both graduated high school and went on to degree and trade programs of their choosing. So much for what you guess.

You don't need to 'beat your kid's ass', in public or otherwise, in order to have respectful children who grow up to be good people and good parents. That is your loss and I'm sad for your kid(s). You also don't need to publicly humiliate them with words. All discipline should be done in private, for their sake, and for your own, so you can keep your integrity, not to mention respect for your children.

And as for killing your children - what world are you from? Who would ever want to or be justified in doing that????
lockeWiggins
 
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Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2011 03:59 pm
@Mame,
granted daughters are different and congratulations you didnt get the short stick of children but to suggest that all children require the same kind of discipline, or upbringing is rediculus. while your children only required two spankings (which im positive that they did more things that required them) to become functioning adults some children require more. EX. my step brother grew up with a mother that never hit him and never corrected his behavior then when he came to live with us he was a thief and constantly stole... one day my mom caught him wipped him in the store and made him apologize to the manager... then when we got home she made him strip then whipped him.

He never stole again.
Linkat
 
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Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2011 04:00 pm
@lockeWiggins,
Well with your philosophy it will be a miracle if she grows up to be a functioning adult....well she may be functioning but not she won't be able to handle the "norms" of society.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2011 04:00 pm
@lockeWiggins,
I'm never interested in swaying opinion. I do like to express mine, a kind of freedom after being a quiet person. I sometimes change my view from others' convincing points. I see you as a provocateur.

On the issue at hand, I haven't read up, will post when I do.
Linkat
 
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Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2011 04:04 pm
@lockeWiggins,
Yes I have two and very odd that I've not beaten them or killed them and they still behave, do well in school and love and respect me!

Maybe I'll get lucky next week and they will do something bad enough that would warrant a beating.
Mame
 
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Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2011 04:04 pm
@Linkat,
Make sure you do that beating in public, Linkat - we all want to watch!
Linkat
 
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Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2011 04:06 pm
@lockeWiggins,
And similarly odd that the neighbors across the street where I grew up had regular beatings yet both went to jail at one point in their lives. The younger result in jail time straightening him out, and he has since led a crime-free life. The other who even knows his where abouts.
lockeWiggins
 
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Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2011 04:06 pm
@ossobuco,
No like you i like to state my opinion. just to see how many people agree or disagree im suprised that this many people are opposed to disciplining their children... (make the public desperate, and they will beg for you to take away their rights.)
Linkat
 
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Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2011 04:07 pm
@Mame,
Well they are girls and still a bit young - one just entering her teen years in the next several months so there is hope.
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Linkat
 
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Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2011 04:08 pm
@lockeWiggins,
Seriously though most here, do support disclipining their children, however, physical assault is usually frowned upon.
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Linkat
 
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Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2011 04:10 pm
@Mame,
I wonder if it is acceptable to beat neighbors? Or are they off limits?

Is this an age thing, the beatings or a relationship type of thing? What sort of people is it morally acceptable to beat? Can we use tools in the beatings?
lockeWiggins
 
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Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2011 04:12 pm
@Linkat,
lets see a common theme between all the girls on teen mom... they where all passive. Theyre kids are all brats, Im not saying abuse your children which of course everything is black and white with you guys. Im saying that a balance is necessary which includes beatings and praises depending on the severity and the circumstances. Include the black and the white with the gray.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2011 04:12 pm
@lockeWiggins,
I remember the one and only time I was spanked, and it was when my mother was frightened. I got home from school early and asked the doorman (huge building in new york in 1950) to let me in, which he did. I remember him as a nice old man.

My mother was enraged (fear and she couldn't really tell me about it). Spanked me - I was eight. I didn't understand that for at least another decade.
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Mame
 
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Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2011 04:13 pm
@Linkat,
Well, on that, I certainly believe you can beat both of your neighbours - beside you and upstairs of you! Especially for dragging the furniture and the hideous crap outside. That is way out of line!!! Maybe they weren't beaten as children? One has to wonder. Please use a bat so there won't be any fingerprints, etc.
lockeWiggins
 
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Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2011 04:14 pm
@Linkat,
definately a relationship thing unless nobody is watching. and anything that is within reach is kosher for use in the beating except for other children of course... unless they too deserve a beating.

was really hoping this wouldnt turn into the idiotic sarcastic threads that ive been seeing but I guess all hope has been lost. thank you linkat you have destroyed the integrity of another thread.
Mame
 
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Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2011 04:17 pm
@lockeWiggins,
My daughter disciplines her two young ones (2 and 4) with time outs and going to bed early. They shouldn't be 'beaten' or even hit at that age. They often don't understand what they're doing, and if they do, they're emotionally immature and can't always control their emotions or temper. Beatings just teach them to be afraid, not to understand the situation and not respectful. Violence is never good. And a spanking (a few swats on the behind) is not violence.

There are permissive (often too permissive) parents out there but by and large, I think most rational parents keep a handle on what's okay and what's not. And they certainly don't beat their kids' asses.
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Mame
 
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Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2011 04:18 pm
@lockeWiggins,
lockeWiggins wrote:

was really hoping this wouldnt turn into the idiotic sarcastic threads that ive been seeing but I guess all hope has been lost. thank you linkat you have destroyed the integrity of another thread.


LOL!!! Really, you can't even imagine how funny this is - "destroyed the integrity of another thread."
Linkat
 
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Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2011 04:21 pm
@lockeWiggins,
I agree - I've never seen the teen mom thing on TV waste of time and encourages such behavior.

And agree with balance, but I've not found it necessary to beat my children. There are other methods of punishment without physically harming them. You then teach it is ok to hit. When in society it is not. Whether you believe that hitting is morally ok or not, society does not consider hitting ok - and you can go to jail for hitting another adult.
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Linkat
 
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Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2011 04:22 pm
@Mame,
Thank you for your approval - I have lots of bats to choose from my girls play lots of softball.
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