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Am I the ONLY One Here Who Feels This Way ?

 
 
Reply Sun 20 Mar, 2011 08:00 pm


Am I the ONLY One Here Who Feels This Way ?

When I see a movie wherein the bad guy
is slaughtering the teenagers, or the pretty girls (or ANY innocent victims),

I wish that the victim pulled out a large calibered gun with hollowpointed loads
and BLASTED the predator where it COUNTS ???


I root for the VICTIM!

When u see that in the movies or on TV, how do U feel about it ?





David
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sun 20 Mar, 2011 08:28 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
I point my garage door remote opener at the bad guy on the screen and yell "ZAP" "POW"; then I eat some Reeses Pieces.
Irishk
 
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Reply Sun 20 Mar, 2011 08:43 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Well, the goal in those types of movies is usually to get us feeling that way and to root for the 'good' guys. Sometimes the good guys aren't really all that good, but we find ourselves rooting for them anyway.

An 'eye for an eye' approach is fairly formulaic and I don't really mind it if it's something like William Wallace beheading all those evil dukes in revenge for his wife and in the name of freedom for his country.

My favorites, however, are the more complex endings where the protagonist doesn't actually die, but is made to wish he was dead....(Captain Hedley/Shawshank Redemption). Norton got his just desserts, as well!
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 20 Mar, 2011 08:47 pm
@dyslexia,
dyslexia wrote:
I point my garage door remote opener at the bad guy on the screen
and yell "ZAP" "POW"; then I eat some Reeses Pieces.
http://www.elvispresleynews.com/ElvisGuns.html
That's probably less expensive than Elvis Presley's practice.
He was said to have kept some revolvers near at hand
for shooting his TV. Allegedly, there was a room (garage?)
full of spare TVs, for his staff's swift replacement.

(Note that I disapprove of pointing guns at people without a good reason.)





David
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 20 Mar, 2011 08:52 pm
@Irishk,
Irishk wrote:
Well, the goal in those types of movies is usually to get us feeling that way and to root for the 'good' guys.
Does that include wishing that the good guy pulled out
a competent gun and used it appropriately to end the bad guy??


Irishk wrote:
Sometimes the good guys aren't really all that good,
but we find ourselves rooting for them anyway.
It coud be, depending on how much we like them.





Irishk wrote:
An 'eye for an eye' approach is fairly formulaic
It IS.




Irishk wrote:
and I don't really mind it if it's something like William Wallace beheading all those evil dukes in revenge for his wife and in the name of freedom for his country.
That was a good movie.




Irishk wrote:
My favorites, however, are the more complex endings where the protagonist doesn't actually die, but is made to wish he was dead....(Captain Hedley/Shawshank Redemption). Norton got his just desserts, as well!
I didn't see that one.
Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Sun 20 Mar, 2011 08:58 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
After seeing many movies with glorified anti-heroes, I cheered when I saw, "Death Wish". Although I don't believe in vigilantism, the concept of the individual standing up for himself against malevolent forces was a breath of fresh air.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 20 Mar, 2011 09:04 pm
@Phoenix32890,
Phoenix32890 wrote:
After seeing many movies with glorified anti-heroes, I cheered when I saw, "Death Wish".
Although I don't believe in vigilantism, the concept of the individual standing up for himself
against malevolent forces was a breath of fresh air.
Yeah, I 'm too lazy to do what Charles Bronson did, but I loved those movies.
Thay supported Individualism.
I own some of them on videotape.





David
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Irishk
 
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Reply Sun 20 Mar, 2011 09:04 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:
I didn't see that one.


Shawshank Redemption didn't do well in theaters, but was a huge hit through DVD release. If you have 2-1/2 hours free, it's well worth the time investment...IMO. Just forget what I said about the ending lol.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 20 Mar, 2011 09:08 pm
@Irishk,
OmSigDAVID wrote:
I didn't see that one.
Irishk wrote:
Shawshank Redemption didn't do well in theaters, but was a huge hit through DVD release.
If you have 2-1/2 hours free, it's well worth the time investment...IMO. Just forget what I said about the ending lol.
That 's OK. I know that there r folks who
hate knowing the ending, but I am not among them.

On some occasions, I have read the end of a book first,
to c if it will justify my investment of time.





David
Irishk
 
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Reply Sun 20 Mar, 2011 09:10 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Well, you might prefer the book (Stephen King wrote it), but please don't read the ending first!!!

What's the difference between a hollow point bullet and a regular one? Is the hollow point more painful or just more deadly?
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 20 Mar, 2011 10:16 pm
@Irishk,
Irishk wrote:
Well, you might prefer the book (Stephen King wrote it), but please don't read the ending first!!!
I like Stephen King; I bawt his Carrie movie with Sissy Spacek. I like her, too.




Irishk wrote:
What's the difference between a hollow point bullet and a regular one?
Is the hollow point more painful or just more deadly?
1. More deadly
and
2. it probably hurts worse (more severe shock, greater cavitation).

U c, K, the engineering filosofy of a bullet
is to serve as a vehicle to deliver the MUZZLE ENERGY
into the target (i.e., the threat). When the bullet enters
the target, it will release all of its kinetic energy therein
(possibly producing a very significant, disabling, shock
and opening a wound channel of great girth) IF the slug remains
within the target. In that circumstance, the target (bad guy)
will fully absorb all of the slug's kinetic energy. Toward that end,
some bullet configurations have been engineered to put the brakes on the slug
after it enters the target, e.g. by deforming, opening into a mushroom shape
of much larger caliber than the slug was. Such a configuration is the hollowpoint.
(There r other engineering strategies to achieve the same goal,
e.g., naked soft lead slugs that deform into larger calibers;
in the First World War, thay were called "dum" bullets.)


However, if a bullet remains fully intact and fails to deform
after it hits the target, then there is a greater chance of OVERPENETRATION
(i.e., it goes out the other side of the target,
carrying away a significant amount of its kinetic energy, which is wasted).



Admittedly, overpenetration will promote exsanguination
(from a large exit wound) but that might well take too long
to be relevant to the fight upon whose results u bet your life.

As a police officer of my acquaintance put it:
"if I shoot someone (which he DID)
I don 't want him to die TOMORROW."
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existential potential
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2011 04:57 am
@OmSigDAVID,
"A clockwork orange" is a diffcult one. the anti-hero in this movie rapes and murders a woman, gets sent to prison, undergoes aversion therapy to rid him of his evil desires, and then when he is released he becomes totally alienated from his family.

you then end up feeling sorry for him, despite his previous actions.
djjd62
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2011 05:05 am
@Phoenix32890,
interesting you'd bring this up, in davids other thread like this, i talked about death wish, bronsons character was avenging the deaths of family (and others?, it's been awhile since i saw it), anyway, given davids rationale the victims would have taken care of the attackers themselves, thus bronsons character would have had nothing to do, but get up in the morning, go to work, maybe a light lunch and some drinks at the club, it would have been a really action packed film for sure

OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2011 05:11 am
@existential potential,
OK, then: let 's put aside the difficult ones.

In a simple bad guy predator movie on innocent victim movie,
do u wish that the victim were well armed when he is attacked ??





David
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2011 05:16 am
@djjd62,
djjd62 wrote:
interesting you'd bring this up, in davids other thread like this, i talked about death wish, bronsons character was avenging the deaths of family (and others?, it's been awhile since i saw it), anyway, given davids rationale the victims would have taken care of the attackers themselves, thus bronsons character would have had nothing to do, but get up in the morning, go to work, maybe a light lunch and some drinks at the club, it would have been a really action packed film for sure
Yeah; the action 'd be when the victims r defending THEMSELVES, without help. That 's good too.

In the first DEATH WISH movie,
there is a brief sequence, very brief, when
the citizens of NY r inspired by the works
of the Vigilante to defend themselves,
to the detriment of the predators of NY.
It was run mostly for comedy value.





David
djjd62
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2011 05:19 am
@OmSigDAVID,
but you have to set the mood for the film and that requires victims

dadpad
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2011 05:20 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Usually I wish there was better gun control and or more stringent licencing requirements.
then the bad guy wouldnt have a gun
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2011 05:26 am

I find it very difficult (IMPOSSIBLE)
to empathetically put myself into the mind
of a supporter of gun control who sees one of these movies.

When the bad guy begins to do something HORRIBLY alarming,
to some sweet, attractive victim, does the supporter of gun control
hope that he or she will call 911 ?
or hit the bad guy with his or her shoe like commie Nikita Khrushchev ?

I dunno.

I hope someone will reveal this.





David
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2011 05:29 am
@djjd62,
djjd62 wrote:
but you have to set the mood for the film and that requires victims
Yes; the writers wish to create situations that call for revenge.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2011 05:33 am
@dadpad,
dadpad wrote:
Usually I wish there was better gun control and or more stringent licencing requirements.
then the bad guy wouldnt have a gun
In those movies,
frequently the bad guy uses sharp objects. In one such series of movies,
he has homemade, curled knives attached to each finger of his hands
to serve as claws.

Thay have also used a variety of garden impliments
as weapons of assassination of innocent teenagers, including cute high school chicks.
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