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Condi Rice-A Liar or Incomp?

 
 
pistoff
 
Reply Fri 26 Dec, 2003 07:12 pm
Both?

"After all the lies Dr. Rice has told, (and as one analyst put it, between Tenet and Hadley, she is either a fool or a liar, if not both), one thing is now crystal clear about her as a result of this Ifill interview. Dr. Rice has absolutely no personal honor, and no personal conception of the public interest. After all of her demonstrated failings, if she had either, she would resign. Since she evidently won't we have a national security advisor who is making all of us less secure."

Charles

Should Condi Rice resign?

It's one thing to be a documented liar, but now it's come out that she's not even doing her job. According to the WaPo, Rice didn't even read one of the most important documents in the paper chain that led to going to war with Iraq:A senior administration official who briefed reporters yesterday said neither Bush nor national security adviser Condoleezza Rice read the NIE in its entirety. "They did not read footnotes in a 90-page document," said the official, referring to the "Annex" that contained the State Department's dissent. The official conducting the briefing rejected reporters' entreaties to allow his name to be used, arguing that it was his standard procedure for such sessions to be conducted anonymously.As Somerby points out, it's hard to believe that Rice, with her academic and government credentials, is this stupid. But then, she's lied so many times that it's hard to separate what is dumb behavior from what is fabricated. Either way, her credibility has been destroyed.

The Amazing Stories of Condoleezza RiceA BUZZFLASH READER COMMENTARY | Updated 8/1/03

Condoleezza Rice is the nation's top national security official. After September 11th, she claimed that the White House had no prior knowledge that Al Qaeda was planning to hijack planes in a terrorist attack. That assertion was roven false. In the months before the Iraq War, Rice repeatedly reassured the public that the U.S. was seeking a peaceful resolution, and that war was not a foregone conclusion. However, it now appears that at the same time she was saying this, she was telling senior State Department officials that the decision to go to war had already been made - well before diplomatic efforts to diffuse the situation even began.

Most recently, it appears that she has given three separate, incongruent stories about her role in the massive intelligence breakdown that led to the White House making false statements about Iraq's nuclear capabilities. It appears that Rice has either been misleading the public about her role in that fiasco, or alternately, has been grossly negligent in not reading the government's most important intelligence documents.CONDI'S AMAZING SEPTEMBER

11TH STORY - FALSELY CLAIMED WHITE HOUSE HAD NO PRIOR WARNING OF HIJACKINGSOn May 16th, 2002, Rice said "I don't think anybody could have predicted that these people would take an airplane and slam it into the World Trade Center, take another one and slam it into the Pentagon. [No one predicted] that they would try to use an airplane as a missile, a hijacked airplane as a missile,"[CBS News, 5/17/02]. But according to the bipartisan 9/11 commission report, "intelligence reports from December 1998 until the attacks said followers of bin Laden were planning to strike U.S. targets, hijack U.S. planes, and two individuals had successfully evaded checkpoints in a dry run at a New York airport," [Reuters, 7/24/03]. More specifically, "White House officials acknowledged that U.S. intelligence officials informed President Bush weeks before the Sept. 11 attacks that bin Laden's terrorist network might try to hijack American planes." [ABC News, 5/16/03]

CONDI'S AMAZING PEACE STORY - PUBLICLY CLAIMED TO SEEK PEACE, WHILE TELLING STATE DEPT. WAR PRE-

DETERMINEDThroughout 2002 and early 2003, Rice repeatedly insisted that the Administration sought a peaceful solution to the Iraq conflict and that war was only a last resort. In October of 2002, she said, "We're going to seek a peaceful solution to this. We think that one is possible" [CBS, 10/20/02]. Then in November of 2002, she said, "We all want very much to see this resolved in a peaceful way" [Briefing, 11/21/02]. In March of 2003, she claimed "we are still in a diplomatic phase here" [ABC, 3/9/03]. However, according to Richard Haas, Bush's director of policy planning at the State Department, the decision had already been made by July of 2002.

When asked exactly when he learned war in Iraq was definite, Haas said, "The moment was the first week of July (2002), when I had a meeting with Condi. I raised this issue about were we really sure that we wanted to put Iraq front and center at this point, given the war on terrorism and other issues. And she said, essentially, that that decision's been made, don't waste your breath. And that was early July. So then when Powell had his famous dinner with the President, in early August, 2002 [in which Powell persuaded Bush to take the question to the U.N.] the agenda was not whether Iraq, but how"

[New Yorker, 3/31/03]CONDI'S AMAZING IRAQ-NUKE STORY #1 - FALSELY CLAIMED WHITE HOUSE DID NOT

KNOW OF NUCLEAR MISGIVINGSWhen questioned about why she did not raise objections to the bogus Iraq-nuclear claim in Bush's State of the Union speech, Rice said on June 8 that "no one in our circles knew that there were doubts and suspicions that this might be a forgery" [AP, 7/23/03] However, a month later, the White House acknowledged that "the CIA sent two memos to the White House in October voicing strong doubts about a claim President Bush made three months later in the State of the Union address that Iraq was trying to buy nuclear material in Africa" [Washington Post, 7/23/03].CONDI'S

AMAZING IRAQ-NUKE STORY #2 - ADMITTED WHITE HOUSE KNEW MISGIVINGS, FALSELY CLAIMED CIA APPROVED

Rice told reporters on July 11th that the CIA "cleared the speech in its entirety." As AP reported, "if Tenet, the CIA director, had any misgivings, he never shared them with the White House, she said." However, "Stephen Hadley, Rice's top aide, said on July 23 that in fact he received two memos from the CIA and a phone call from Tenet last October warning him that evidence that Iraq was trying to obtain uranium in Africa was not reliable. One memo was also directed to Rice."

AP, 7/23/03]CONDI'S

AMAZING IRAQ-NUKE STORY #3 - ADMITS CIA OBJECTED, THEN CLAIMED THAT SHE SIMPLY DIDN'T READ MEMO

Facing questions over Rice's changing stories, the White House then attempted to deflect criticism by claiming that Rice and Bush both failed to even fully read the intelligence documents they were given - as if negligence obviates responsibility for misleading the nation. As the Washington Post reported, on the eve of war, "President Bush and his national security adviser did not entirely read the most authoritative prewar assessment of

U.S. intelligence on Iraq, including a State Department claim that an allegation Bush would later use in his State of the Union address was

?'highly dubious,' White House officials said." That assessment, called the National Intelligence Estimate, is considered the U.S. government's most important intelligence document and contained "a classified, 90-page summary that was the definitive assessment of Iraq's weapons programs by U.S. intelligence agencies" [Washington Post, 7/19/03]. When asked about Rice's new claim to not have read critical CIA memos sent directly to her that debunked the Iraq-nuclear claim, Stephen Hadley, Rice's top aide, admitted "I can't tell you she read it. But in some sense, it doesn't matter. Memo sent, we're on notice."

[AP, 7/23/03]-- 8/1/03 UPDATE --CONDI'S AMAZING IRAQ-NUKE STORY

#4 - CLAIMS NO ONE SAID IRAQ POSED A NUCLEAR THREAT WITHIN

A YEARCLAIM:"He's trying to acquire nuclear weapons. Nobody ever said that it was going to be the next year."

- Condoleeza Rice in PBS interview, 7/30/03FACT:"[Iraq] could have a nuclear weapon in less than a year."

- George Bush, 10/8/02"This regime is seeking a nuclear bomb, and with fissile material could build one within a year."

- George Bush, 9/28/02"Today Saddam Hussein has the scientists and infrastructure for a nuclear weapons program and has illicitly sought to purchase the equipment needed to enrich uranium for a nuclear weapon. Should his regime acquire fissile material, it would be able to build a nuclear weapon within a year."

- George Bush, National Radio Address, 9/14/02"Should Iraq acquire fissile material, it would be able to build a nuclear weapon within a year."

- George Bush, speech to U.N., 9/12/02

"The intelligence community also had high confidence in the judgment that, and I quote, 'Iraq could make a nuclear weapon in months to a year once it acquires sufficient weapons-grade fissile material,' end quote."
- Vice President Dick Cheney, 7/23/03
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 26 Dec, 2003 07:15 pm
Well, all I can say, watching on from the other side of the planet, Pistoff, is scary stuff ... very, very scary stuff! Shocked
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pistoff
 
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Reply Fri 26 Dec, 2003 07:42 pm
Liars
Duby, Asscoft, Lon Chainy, Wolfashitz etc. are all hypocites and freakin' liars. Seems that most Americans just don't care that their so-called leaders outright lie to them. It has become fashionable and acceptable.
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Acquiunk
 
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Reply Fri 26 Dec, 2003 08:36 pm
Pistoff, if you are going to throw around those kinds of charges about a public official, you should have links to sources to reference your charges. As of now there is no way to evaluate your claims.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Fri 26 Dec, 2003 08:46 pm
or an incompetent liar?
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pistoff
 
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Reply Fri 26 Dec, 2003 09:18 pm
Facts
Do some research. Go to your fave search engine and type: Condi Rice Liar, George Bush Lies or Rummsfeld Lies. You will have plenty to read.
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yeahman
 
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Reply Fri 26 Dec, 2003 10:03 pm
"We are able to keep his arms from him. His military forces have not been rebuilt." - Condaleeza Rice on Saddam (7/01)
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pistoff
 
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Reply Fri 26 Dec, 2003 10:08 pm
Hmmm...
The Dems won't attack her because the Right Wingding Weenies will acusse them of attacking women or Afro-Americans. I could be wrong but that might be why the Neocons hired her in the 1st place. She knew zip about foreign policy. She is a shill.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Sat 27 Dec, 2003 10:21 am
She leaves a bad taste in my mouth but most Republicans do.
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yeahman
 
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Reply Sat 27 Dec, 2003 10:43 am
plainoldme wrote:
She leaves a bad taste in my mouth but most Republicans do.

Cunnilingus Rice leaves a bad taste in my mouth too.
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