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Why the anti-union animosity?

 
 
dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 18 Mar, 2011 11:25 pm
@Setanta,
I've been a member of both Teamsters and United Mine Workers, they got my dues money, I got a membership card/ID and a bumper sticker. both were required for the jobs I had.
georgeob1
 
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Reply Fri 18 Mar, 2011 11:35 pm
@dyslexia,
Would you have joined voluntarily or remained a dues paying member if you were not required to do so to keep your job?
dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 18 Mar, 2011 11:44 pm
@georgeob1,
I would joined the first time (united mines workers) because I didn't know any better---teamsters would have never happened.
Irishk
 
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Reply Sat 19 Mar, 2011 12:09 am
@Thomas,
Thomas wrote:
This reminds me of something I meant to ask: What solid empirical evidence do we actually have about modern-day corruption in unions? How does it compare to, say, corruption in the modern-day chamber of commerce? The closest thing to such evidence I'm recently seeing is endless TV replays of On The Waterfront, a Marlon-Brando movie from the 1950s.

Good movie! The Department of Labor keeps statistics on evidence, indictments and prosecutions, I believe.

1. Go to their website, scroll down to the "O" section...
2, Click on "Office of Labor-Management Standards (OLMS)...
3. Click on "About OLMS"...
4. Click on "Annual Reports".

The last available report is for 2009. An FOIA has been filed for the 2010 report, but I think the explanation was that it hasn't been compiled yet.

Let me know if this isn't what you were looking for.
parados
 
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Reply Sat 19 Mar, 2011 09:37 am
@Irishk,
So.. embezzlement by Union members was $102 million over the last 10 year.
Fraud by Madoff alone was 100 times that.

I guess business people commit more financial fraud than union members at least from a dollar standpoint.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Sat 19 Mar, 2011 09:41 am
@dyslexia,
Everyone wants stuff but no one wants to pay for it. We all want to have rights,good pay, a living wage, but we want someone else to suffer for it. Are their bad unions, damn right, but their are a hell of a lot more good ones.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 19 Mar, 2011 09:47 am
@dyslexia,
I've never seen a closed shop (which is not me denying that such things happen). As i've already pointed out here, when i was a union member, management was careful to see that non-union employees got the same pay and benefits as those negotiated by the union. We got new union members when management would screw somebody in a greivance or a disciplinary hearing, and they had nobody to inform them of their rights, to support them, to accompany them to the hearing. It's like people who bad-mouth cops, until they get mugged.
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Irishk
 
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Reply Sat 19 Mar, 2011 12:12 pm
@parados,
This coulda been Madoff's theme song...
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