Re: Hispanics that are elegible to vote
The front-page story by Mike Allen describes a Bush initiative on "immigration reform." Seems that U.S. employers would post jobs and the wages that go with them on a Department of Labor website. If no Americans came forward to take the jobs, the employer would be allowed to bring Mexican temporary workers in legally, give them the jobs, and put them on a fast track to permanent residency and citizenship.
Yep, thats pretty much the story this thread opened with. Sounds good to me. Extra opportunities for those who need it most.
What would this mean? U.S. companies would offer pay at or near the minimum wage for jobs they had open in, say, construction [..] bringing in millions of workers who would take jobs at a fraction of a living wage for American families,
How is the minimum wage "a fraction of a living wage"? I'm all for having a minimum wage - and the concept behind the minimum wage is, I think, that it is
a living wage. I think it'd be good to up the minimum wage, sure, cause it aint much, its too little - just compare it to Europe - but "a fraction
of a living wage"?
And how so, "millions"? Under this scheme, they're only allowed to get people in on these temporary work/residency permits if no American will do the job for the money (which'll at least be "at or near the minimum wage" as you say). You think there are millions of jobs that no American worker will take on for a minimum wage? If that's true Americans apparently aren't quite as poor under Bush Jr, after all ...
Bush will propose that 10 million aliens, who are in this country illegally, be made legal.
Thatd be a good thing, IMO - even if only to avoid exactly the thing you are denouncing. See, currently, many of those construction businesses you're talking about are employing those illegals - at what really
is "a fraction of a living wage". With this program in place, they would have no excuse for that anymore, and the practice of hiring illegals could be more easily marginalised.
the government follows up this program with a clampdown on employers who still hire illegals, anyway, its good news for American workers too, as it creates at least a level playing field. After all, what legalising illegal workers and facilitating legal labour migration does, is push employers to adhere to legal standards for the jobs they now hire illegals for. Its not as good a news for American workers as a clampdown on employers per se - without alternative legal immigration program - would be, but it does help, plus it benefits a lot of (would-be) immigrants who really
need it, too.
According to the Post, Rove & Co. "concluded that they needed a response to the large population of undocumented workers for the plan to be credible and for Bush to get credit from Hispanic voters.
Karle Rove is a dioblical genius behind Duby the dunce.
Well, if I get it right, your alternative is to keep those poor Mexicans out of the country, so that American workers can better negotiate higher wages for themselves. I'm all for standing up for workers, but basically, those Mexicans need the money even more than the American workers. So if one really wants to 'stand up for the downtrodden', it's them one needs to think of, as well ... unless you only want to stand up for our
I mean - its clear to me that Bush does this primarily to benefit business interests and his own electoral gains. But fact is, that programs like these would
substantially improve the conditions both for the poorest people in the US now - the illegal immigrants who are striving to forge a better life for themselves away from the poverty at home - and some of those still in poverty at home, who would like to do the very same thing, legally. Thats good, in my book.