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Tunesia, Egyt and now Yemen: a domino effect in the Middle East?

 
 
failures art
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 03:30 pm
A
R
Things are grim...
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JPB
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 03:31 pm
From earlier this morning on the NYT blog:

Quote:
Lindsey Hilsum, a Channel 4 News correspondent in Cairo, reported via Twitter that Hossam Badrawy, the new secretary-general of the Mubarak regime's National Democratic Party, "just told me he expects President Mubarak to pass his powers to his vice president tonight," in a televised address. She added that Dr. Badrawy "told me in three meetings yesterday and phone call today he convinced President Mubarak to pass powers to" Omar Suleiman, the intelligence chief he appointed vice president days into the protests.

Dr. Badrawy is an influential figure within the party. He is considered a reformer and was formerly close to Gamal Mubarak, the president's son and presumed heir. This week, he personally accompanied Wael Ghonim, a protest organizer released after 12 days in custody, back to his home.
JPB
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 03:33 pm
@Joe Nation,
Saudi Arabia has already pledged to pick up the loss of our funds.
JPB
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 03:34 pm
Suleiman is speaking.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 03:38 pm
@Joe Nation,
Quote:
there goes a billion dollars
It is actually $2 billion....$1.3 to the military but there is another $800 million, $2oo million is "blow money" with no conditions at all....

Not that anyone cares at this point, it does not matter.
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JPB
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 03:38 pm
Tell the youth to "Go Back Home. Go Back To Your Work."

Do Not Listen To Satellite Television --- another slap at Al Jazeera.
sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 03:40 pm
@JPB,
The Guardian blog is very informative.

Latest post:

Quote:
9.29pm GMT: My colleague Matt Wells has just spoken to Jack Shenker in Tahrir Square, where the mood is one of fury.

Jack says the people were huddled around radios listening to the speech in silence. But once it became clear that Mubarak intended to stay on, the mood changed to anger.


Quote:
At one point Mubarak made a reference to being a young man and understanding the young men of Egypt – basically the people who are here – and at that moment the whole square erupted in anger. At that point, the whole square exploded in anger. The way that Mubarak is comparing himself to the people on the ground infuriated them.

And when it became clear that the that Mubarak intended to stay on until September, the square shook with fury. "We are not going until he goes," they chanted.

There is real anger and real fury and people are not quite sure in which direction to channel it. As I speak to you now, one man is holding a banner next to me which says: "Freedom or I die here." Tears are running down some people's faces. They really thought he was going to go.

There is a feeling that people want to get on the move now. I can hear this chant: "We'll go to the palace and tear him out."
Joe Nation
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 03:44 pm
@JPB,
Thanks for that clarification. I'm sure that will make some in the GOP very happy that we aren't spending that cash.
Joe(they would be wrong.)Nation
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 03:44 pm
@sozobe,
Quote:
But once it became clear that Mubarak intended to stay on, the mood changed to anger.

KABOOM!

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JPB
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 03:46 pm
Q: What effect will this have on the revolution?

A: The revolution starts tomorrow!

Interview on Al Jazeera.
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JPB
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 03:46 pm
@sozobe,
Indeed!

Been glued to it for days.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 03:48 pm
@JPB,
The $64 thousand dollar question is, what will the army do if the citizens of Egypt gets violent?
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JPB
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 03:54 pm
@JPB,
JPB wrote:

Questioning now as to where the signals got crossed.


More from the Guardian blog
Quote:
9:51pm GMT: This is interesting: the BBC's Paul Adams reports that people in Cairo are receiving text messages from the high council of the army, saying that it is monitoring how events unfold and will decide how to act.

9.48pm GMT:
Mubarak's address was watched by President Obama onboard Air Force One. He is planning to go straight from his plane to meet with his national security team at the White House.

"This is not what the [US] administration was told President Mubarak was going to do," reports CNN political correspondent John King.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 03:58 pm
@realjohnboy,
Uh oh x 2
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 04:01 pm
I sincerely hope this does not devolve into violence. (on either side)
roger
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 04:04 pm
@JPB,
JPB wrote:

Saudi Arabia has already pledged to pick up the loss of our funds.


But those funds are essentially bribes. No reason to believe Saudi Arabia's interests are remotely similar to our's, and whoever pays the piper. . . .
roger
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 04:06 pm
@dyslexia,
I'm very much surprised it hasn't already. One soldier burned alive by one fire bomb, and it would be all over.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 04:13 pm
@roger,
the word for bribes, in arabic, is Baksheesh. The same Baksheesh the US has been paying Egypt/Israel for decades.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 04:31 pm
@JPB,
Quote:
This is not what the [US] administration was told President Mubarak was going to do," reports CNN political correspondent John King.
HA! so I was right.
Rockhead
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 04:33 pm
@hawkeye10,
you seem as surprised as the rest of us...
 

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