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Tunesia, Egyt and now Yemen: a domino effect in the Middle East?

 
 
JPB
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 02:55 pm
Still sounds days behind the curve.
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 02:57 pm
@JPB,
The issue is not about me - he says.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 02:58 pm
All major German tv channels show this .... seems he doesn't come to the point most are awaiting ...
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JPB
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 02:59 pm
Still thinks the majority of the people support him.
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JPB
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 03:00 pm
They're waving shoes in the square.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 03:01 pm
Ten minutes into the speech and he is now reciting his history.....

Doesn't this guy know the crowd only wants to hear him say "Buh-bye!!"
Joe(have a nice trip!)Nation
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JPB
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 03:08 pm
Questioning now as to where the signals got crossed.
spendius
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 03:10 pm
@realjohnboy,
So now the day has come to an end perhaps we should dwell upon how much drivel we have heard and read during the course of it and a fair amount of it from official sources and from experts. The US government seems to be completely perplexed.
sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 03:11 pm
@JPB,
This says that he's digging in, not leaving:

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2011/02/breaking-mubarak-digs-in.html

The Guardian has a live blog:

Quote:
9.02pm GMT: No one in Tahrir Square is listening to the rest of the Mubarak speech. The chant is: "Get out, get out."

"We will be dignified until the very end, may God preserve Egypt, may peace be upon you," is Mubarak's final remark.

No sign he's leaving. The "I have been ignoring international pressure" line suggests this was a "I fight on" speech by Mubarak.

9pm GMT: Mubarak's not stepping down, that much seems clear, although exactly what that means with his previous statements about the army implementing change isn't clear.

Tahrir Square is going nuts, based on the live footage


and

Quote:
9.05pm GMT: A clear translation of Mubarak's words will take a while so it's hard to know exactly what Mubarak was saying. But from the reaction on the ground, it seems that these minor concessions will not be enough.

There was little that was new in Mubarak's speech, and he granted some powers to Omar Suleiman, but little else and far less than many were expected.

None of this meshes with the statements issued by the military leadership today: that hints at a palace civil war going on behind the scenes.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/feb/10/egypt-hosni-mubarak-resignation-rumours
JPB
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 03:15 pm
@sozobe,
Egyptian television no longer showing the scene in the square.
roger
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 03:17 pm
@JPB,
Is there something they don't want us to see, or is there going to be something they don't want us to see?
JPB
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 03:17 pm
Al Jazeera asks

1:03pm: Mubarak says the priority is to "restore confidence to our nation".

Egypt is braving hard times, where we cannot tolerate these circumstances to continue. Our economy has suffered losses and damages - and day by day it will end up where the youth, who are calling for more reform will be the first victims.

Is that a threat?
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 03:18 pm
@spendius,
Quote:
The US government seems to be completely perplexed
And wrong...the US media had it that Mubarak was leaving tonight, which they must have been told by US government officials. It looks to me that Mubarak just tweaked OBama, faked him out, and left Obama looking like a fool. Payback!

Now we see what happens on the ground, the Army has to choose sides but reports are that the Army is split. I am looking for a rouge commander to put a bullet in Mubaraks head, be we shall see. ...it well may be Tiananmen Square time
failures art
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 03:18 pm
I forget how spoiled I am in DC. We get AJE, Russia Today (English), and some French news station (not English).

Their may be more on some other local providers as well.

A
R
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JPB
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 03:18 pm
@roger,
State television hasn't been showing the square until earlier tonight. It almost seems as if there was a last minute change of direction.
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JPB
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 03:20 pm
@hawkeye10,
No, this didn't come out of the US media. It came out of the Egyptian military and the Defense Minister
sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 03:21 pm
@JPB,
The guardian blog:

Quote:
9.15pm GMT: We'll be posting reaction from the Guardian's crack team around the globe but here is the key quote from Mubarak's speech:

Quote:
Satisfied with what I have offered the nation in more than 60 years, I have announced I will stay with this post and that I will continue to shoulder my responsibilities.


At that point protesters erupted in jeers and shoe-waving.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 03:23 pm
Spendius: Please list the leaders/governments who have a clear-eyed view of this situation.
Joe(all the best)Nation
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JPB
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 03:26 pm
Suleiman to make a live address "shortly".
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 03:29 pm
@hawkeye10,
Maybe somebody remembered that US law says that no aid can be offered to any regime put in place by military action. (except when the US is the military). So, if the military took command --poof--there goes a billion dollars.
Joe(easy come, not so easy go)Nation
 

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