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Tunesia, Egyt and now Yemen: a domino effect in the Middle East?

 
 
Butrflynet
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jan, 2011 07:23 pm
I can't find any mainstream media confirmation of this yet...

Edited: But have found confirmation elsewhere. Mainstream media is being very silent on it.

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/218142/politicians_groups_speak_out_on_egyptian_internet_blocking.html

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Meanwhile, digital rights group Free Press questioned the role of Narus, a California company and subsidiary of Boeing, in aiding the Egyptian government. Narus has sold real-time intelligence software that monitors Internet traffic to the state-run Telecom Egypt, the largest telecom carrier in the country. Narus provides deep packet inspection technologies that allow network managers to inspect, track and target content from Internet users and mobile phones, Free Press said.

"What we are seeing in Egypt is a frightening example of how the power of technology can be abused," said Timothy Karr, Free Press' campaign director. "Commercial operators trafficking in deep packet inspection technology to violate Internet users' privacy is bad enough; in government hands, that same invasion of privacy can quickly lead to stark human rights violations."

Companies that sell deep packet inspection technology need to be held to a "higher standard," Karr added in a statement. "The harm to democracy and the power to control the Internet are so disturbing that the threshold for the global trafficking in [the technology] must be set very high."


Here's the press release from Free Press about it:

http://www.freepress.net/press-release/2011/1/28/questions-raised-about-us-firms-role-egypt-internet-crackdown

and the HuffPo article referred to in the above press release:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/timothy-karr/one-us-corporations-role-_b_815281.html

Interesting tidbits from the HuffPo article:

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The companies that profit from sales of this technology need to be held to a higher standard. One in particular is an American firm, Narus of Sunnyvale, Calif., which has sold Telecom Egypt "real-time traffic intelligence" equipment.

Narus, now owned by Boeing, was founded in 1997 by Israeli security experts to create and sell mass surveillance systems for governments and large corporate clients.


Quote:
"Anything that comes through (an Internet protocol network), we can record," Steve Bannerman, Narus' marketing vice president, once boasted to Wired about the service. "We can reconstruct all of their e-mails along with attachments, see what web pages they clicked on; we can reconstruct their (Voice Over Internet Protocol) calls."


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In addition to Narus, there are a number of companies, including many others in the United States, that produce and traffic in similar spying and control technology. This list of DPI providers includes Zeugma Systems (Canada), Camiant (USA), Procera Networks (USA), Allot (Israel), Ixia (USA), AdvancedIO (Canada) and Sandvine (Canada), among others.



From the Narus website:

http://www.narus.com/index.php/about

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Narus is the global leader in real-time traffic intelligence for the protection and management of large IP networks.


Narus is the only software company that provides security, intercept and traffic management solutions within a single, flexible system. With Narus, service providers, governments and large enterprises around the world can immediately detect, analyze, mitigate and target any unwanted, unwarranted or malicious traffic. Narus solutions provide its customers with complete, real-time insight into all of their IP traffic from the network to the applications, enabling customers to take the most appropriate actions quickly.


Narus’ system protects and manages the largest IP networks in the U. S. and around the world, some of which include: KT (Korea), KDDI (Japan), Raytheon, Telecom Egypt, Reliance (India), Cable and Wireless, Saudi Telecom, U.S. Cellular, Pakistan Telecom Authority and many more.


Narus was incorporated in Delaware in 1997 as a privately held U.S. company and became a wholly owned subsidiary of The Boeing Company in 2010. The company is headquarted in Sunnyvale, Calif., in the United States, with regional offices around the world.


http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2006/05/70914

Article written in 2006:

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Brasil Telecom and several other Brazilian phone companies are using Narus products to charge each other for VOIP calls they send over one another's IP networks. Internet companies in China and the Middle East use them to block VOIP calls altogether.

But even before the product's alleged role in the NSA's operations emerged, its potential as a surveillance tool was not lost on corporate America.

In December, VeriSign, also of Mountain View, chose Narus' product as the backbone of its lawful-intercept-outsourcing service, which helps network operators comply with court-authorized surveillance orders from law enforcement agencies. A special Narus lawful-intercept application does this spying with ease, sorting through torrents of IP traffic to pick out specific messages based on a targeted e-mail address, IP address or, in the case of VOIP, phone number.

"We needed their fast packet-detection and inspection capability," says VeriSign Vice President Raj Puri. "They do it with specialized software that can isolate packets for a specific target."


Narus has little control over how its products are used after they're sold. For example, although its lawful-intercept application has a sophisticated system for making sure the surveillance complies with the terms of a warrant, it's up to the operator whether to type those terms into the system, says Bannerman.

That legal eavesdropping application was launched in February 2005, well after whistle-blower Klein allegedly learned that AT&T was installing Narus boxes in secure, NSA-controlled rooms in switching centers around the country. But that doesn't mean the government couldn't write its own code to do the dirty work. Narus even offers software-development kits to customers.

"Our product is designed to comply (with) all of the laws in all of the countries we ship to," says Bannerman. "Many of our customers have built their own applications. We have no idea what they do."



Lash
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jan, 2011 07:39 pm
@hingehead,
(LOL) Sometimes, I wonder. Other times, I think it's funny. How manically he or she runs about making zeroes. I wonder if it drives them nuts when they have to do it again...and again... Must be so frustrating...to be unable to confront their disagreement with me....finding him/herself impotent. Relegated to passive aggressive thumbing.

Jeez, I'd be miserable if that was me. Cool
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jan, 2011 07:57 pm
@Butrflynet,
Obama's statement was delayed while he spent 30 minutes on the phone with Mubarak. I feel certain that our intelligence agencies have been working hard all day on an assessment of Mubarak's chances of staying in power. Based on how much time Obama gave the Egyptian dictator and the content of his statement, it would appear that the assessment is that Mubarak will survive.

Of course our government's track record on predictions is something less than stellar, and so Obama may be backing a loser.

Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jan, 2011 08:15 pm
@Butrflynet,
Like many others, the Narus product can serve legitimate purposes, as well as nefarious ones.

Do its critics imagine that Narus is capable of assuring that none of its customers will abuse its product?

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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jan, 2011 12:15 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
Obama's statement was delayed while he spent 30 minutes on the phone with Mubarak. I feel certain that our intelligence agencies have been working hard all day on an assessment of Mubarak's chances of staying in power. Based on how much time Obama gave the Egyptian dictator and the content of his statement, it would appear that the assessment is that Mubarak will survive.

Of course our government's track record on predictions is something less than stellar, and so Obama may be backing a loser.


Mubarak's appearance, as he made that address to the Egyptian people, was described as "ashen". Perhaps he was not exactly happy to be making the statement he made? It certainly felt rather sudden ....

But then, according to the Guardian, Al Jazeera & other news sources, the US had made it clear that they were reviewing foreign aid (to Egypt) as the drama on Egyptian streets was happening. (Israel & Egypt received 1/3 of US foreign aid, the last time I checked)
I think perhaps a proposition was put to him which he could not refuse.

However, whether this "solution" to the grievances in Egypt is one that the Egyptian people actually want is quite another thing. It may suit the US to retain Mubarak as leader of a new government (which will address "reform"), but it certainly doesn't sound like the Egyptian people want him to stay on. Judging from the reports I've read they want him gone.

cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jan, 2011 12:17 am
@msolga,
Therein lies the catch 22; Mubarak who they want gone or another leader who is a worst tyrant and fraud.
msolga
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jan, 2011 12:20 am
@cicerone imposter,
I think, ci, at this point in time it will be the leader which the US wants.

Lash
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jan, 2011 12:29 am
@msolga,
You think the US is running this revolution?
msolga
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jan, 2011 12:35 am
@Lash,
No, at all. But I think the US is trying to control the outcome (in Egypt, in particular), Lash.

I think the Egyptian (& other) "revolutions" rather took the US by surprise.
And that it has been in management control mode since.

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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jan, 2011 12:58 am
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Therein lies the catch 22; Mubarak who they want gone or another leader who is a worst tyrant and fraud.

Well, I don't know enough about other potential alternative leaders, ci.
Do you?
Is there any reason to assume that the protesting Egyptians would automatically choose a corrupt leader?
The only alternative leader I know of, at this time, is Mohamed ElBaradei & according to a Guardian report:
Quote:
• In another significant development, Mohamed ElBaradei, the former UN weapons chief who may stand in presidential elections later this year, was placed under house arrest for "his own protection" after returning from abroad.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2011/jan/28/egypt-protests-live-updates?intcmp=239
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roger
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jan, 2011 01:04 am
@msolga,
You suppose the US got to pick the leader after Reza Palavi departed Iran?
msolga
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jan, 2011 01:11 am
@roger,
But I'm not talking about Iran, Roger.

But I've been following these recent anti-government protests in the middle east very closely. From a variety of different media sources.

I am not saying anything that a number of established media sources aren't also saying in their own commentaries & reports.
MJA
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jan, 2011 01:38 am
Perhaps the effect will grow beyond the Middle East to include us all.
Who wants or needs to be governed, do you, do we?
How about a Universal Independence Day?
To freedom,
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roger
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jan, 2011 02:14 am
@msolga,
So, the US has recently developed a knack for picking winners? Ah, I don't believe in history, either.
msolga
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jan, 2011 02:29 am
@roger,
Roger, I have to go now because my friend has just arrived for dinner (which I am cooking.)

I'll have to respond later.

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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jan, 2011 04:10 am
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/01/201112974149942894.html


Demonstrators gathered in Tahrir Square in the Egyptian capital, Cairo, on Saturday morning, shouting "Go away, go away!", the Reuters news agency said.

Similar crowds were gathering in the cities of Alexandria and Suez, Al Jazeera's correspondents reported.

In Suez, Al Jazeera's Jamal ElShayyal reported that protesters were gathering, and that the military was not confronting them.

ElShayyal quoted a military officer as saying that troops would "not fire a single bullet on Egyptians", regardless of where the orders to do so come from.

The latest protests reflected popular discontent with Mubarak's midnight address, where he announced that he was dismissing his government but remaining in power.

The several hundred protesters in Tahrir Square demonstrated in full view of the army, which had been deployed in the city to quell the popular unrest sweeping the Middle East's most populous Muslim country since January 25.

They also repeatedly shouted that their intentions were peaceful.

Reuters reported that the police "fired shots" on the protesters in Cairo. An independent confirmation of that report is awaited.

Al Jazeera's Jane Dutton, reporting from Cairo, said the normally bustling city looked more like a warzone early on Saturday morning.

Tanks have been patrolling the streets of the capital since early in the morning.

The number of people killed in protests is reported to be in the scores, with at least 23 deaths confirmed in Alexandria, and at least 15 confirmed in Suez, with a further 15 deaths in Cairo.

Al Jazeera's Rageh in Alexandria said that the bodies of 23 protesters had been received at the local morgue, some of them brutally disfigured.

ElShayyal, our correspondent in Suez confirmed 15 bodies were received at the morgue in Suez, while Dan Nolan, our correspondent in Cairo, confirmed that 15 bodies were present at a morgue in Cairo.

More than 1,000 were also wounded in Friday's violent protests, which occurred in Cairo and Suez, in addition to Alexandria.
Protests continued throughout the night, with demonstrators defying a nighttime curfew.

The Egyptian army says that it has been able to secure the neighbouring museum of antiquities from the threat of fire and looting, averting the possible loss of thousands of priceless artefacts.

Armoured personnel carriers remain stationed around the British and US embassies, as well as at the state television station.

Some mobile phone networks resumed service in the capital on Saturday, after being shut down by authorities on Friday. Internet services remain cut, and landline usage limited.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jan, 2011 05:34 am
@msolga,
Your statement intimates that the US has the power to control the outcome of the revolution. I think you're mistaken.
msolga
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jan, 2011 06:57 am
@Lash,
I don't believe the US can control the protesters, Lash.

But without a doubt US support (or withdrawal of support) will influence whether Mubarak retains his control of the Egyptian government or not.


You might be interested in today's NYTimes editorial.:

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Editorial
Washington and Mr. Mubarak
Published: January 28, 2011

Both President Hosni Mubarak of Egypt, in power for three decades, and Ali Abdullah Saleh of Yemen, in power for 23 years, should have seen this coming. They didn’t — or didn’t care. Both countries share similar pressures: huge numbers of young people without jobs, growing outrage over abusive security forces, corrupt leaders, repressive political systems.
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Their people are right to demand more from their governments. The status quo is unsustainable and the result, perhaps inevitable, has been an explosion of protests and rioting in the streets of both countries.

Egypt, with Mr. Mubarak in charge, is an American ally and a recipient of nearly $1.5 billion in aid annually. It is the biggest country in the Arab world and was the first to make peace with Israel. Yemen is home to a dangerous Al Qaeda affiliate and has given the United States pretty much free rein to go after the extremists.

All of which leaves Washington in a quandary, trying to balance national security concerns and its moral responsibility to stand with those who have the courage to oppose authoritarian rulers. American officials must already be wondering what will happen to the fight against Al Qaeda if Mr. Saleh is deposed. And what will happen to efforts to counter Iran and promote Arab-Israeli peace if Mr. Mubarak is suddenly gone?

We won’t try to game Yemen’s politics. Even in Egypt, it’s impossible to know who might succeed Mr. Mubarak. He has made sure that there is no loyal opposition and little in the way of democratic institutions.

In the past, Washington has often pulled its punches on human rights and democracy to protect unholy security alliances with dictators, like Ferdinand Marcos of the Philippines. There came a time when it was obvious that the Marcos tie was damaging American security interests and President Ronald Reagan — along with a people power revolution — played a role in easing him peacefully out of power.

Whether that point comes with Mr. Mubarak is now up to him. So far, he has shown arrogance and tone-deafness. He has met the spiraling protests with spiraling levels of force and repression. On Friday, in a sign more of weakness than strength, the government shut down Internet access and cellphone service. The protestors were undeterred.

Early Saturday, Mr. Mubarak ordered all of his ministers to resign and said his new government would accelerate reforms. He would be far more persuasive if he lifted the communications blackout, reeled in his security forces, allowed credible candidates to compete for president this year, and ensured a free and fair election.

Cables released by WikiLeaks show that the Obama administration has been privately pushing Mr. Mubarak to wake up, release jailed dissidents and pursue reforms. Unfortunately, those private exhortations did not get very far.

The administration struggled to get its public message right this week. On Thursday, it made clear that while Mr. Mubarak is a valuable ally, it is not taking sides but is trying to work with both the government and the protesters. By Friday, the White House said it was ready to “review” aid to Egypt — after Mr. Mubarak cut most communications, called out the army and effectively put Mohamed ElBaradei, a leading opposition figure and former leader of the International Atomic Energy Agency, under house arrest.

Mr. Obama will have to be willing to actually cut that aid if Mr. Mubarak turns the protests into a bloodbath and fails to open up Egypt’s political system.


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/29/opinion/29sat1.html?hp
Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jan, 2011 06:58 am
@msolga,
msolga wrote:
But without a doubt US support (or withdrawal of support) will influence whether Mubarak retains his control of the Egypt government or not.


I think you're wrong about that. The only thing which can unseat Mubarak is the withdrawal of army support.
msolga
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jan, 2011 07:08 am
@Setanta,
Certainly losing support of the army would have that impact.
But if Mubarak lost the support of his most powerful ally (of 30 years), the US, that would surely be an important factor in undermining his government.
 

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