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Tunesia, Egyt and now Yemen: a domino effect in the Middle East?

 
 
High Seas
 
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Reply Fri 4 Mar, 2011 08:37 am
@revelette,
The general feeling in the Middle East is that if he can be offered an honorable way out (including his family and entourage) he'll take it - whence the unlikely mediation efforts by Chavez of Venezuela. Nobody in Africa will take him in - too much baggage. The Saudis, keepers of the Moslem holy sites forcing them to offer asylum to Moslems from Idi Amin to Benazir Bhutto, loathe him; ditto the Syrians and most other Arabs. Maybe Italy could be persuaded on the same argument used to France about Baby Doc Duvalier (it's your former colonial baby, deal with the detritus now). If Italy is faced with a choice between a million Libyan boat people landing in Lampedusa or Ghadafi alone, they may conclude he's the cheaper option, baggage and all. Is Croatia a possibility?
djjd62
 
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Reply Fri 4 Mar, 2011 09:11 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
Sayre's Law


it's better to con others to white wash the fence, than do it yourself
spendius
 
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Reply Fri 4 Mar, 2011 09:20 am
@High Seas,
I think we should volunteer. We have had plenty of headbangers residing here so I can't see what difference one more will make. As long as he brings his dough of course.

We are not arrived at his needing asylum yet. The bookies are offering evens I think. I don't know which outcome is best for us, and for them, which I think means the same thing, and nor do I know how to go about it. I don't see many signs of anybody else knowing either. Anybody who thinks they know is a bit tapped imo. It seems to me to be a sign of megalomanical upwellings.

Have those hoping for your outcome, HS, a media generated hope, any objective beyond it. If he does go those left behind will not be like toy soldiers or doll's house inhabitants that can be moved into any position with very little effort.

He has been co-operating with the EU on illegal immigration for years. The boat people have existed a long time. It's our mud-honey way of life. The Sweet Smell of Success.
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revelette
 
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Reply Fri 4 Mar, 2011 09:31 am
@High Seas,
I don't know what the general feeling in the ME is, but I have read that most leaders of the Arab world don't like him, however, according to a few reports, they like the idea of foreign intervention even less. Also, there is talk of charging him with war crimes since he has fired on protesters. So I am not sure exile is an option. It's like he is boxed in at a corner and if he is mortally wounded as lash says then, like a dangerous animal when boxed in, that's when they are the most dangerous. (watch AP a lot with my granddaughter, not saying Qaddafi is an animal or anything..) Most are saying the situation is fluid whatever that means. If I had to take a guess, it means anything can happen and probably will. (or not, maybe thing will just kind of drift and die down.)
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 4 Mar, 2011 11:05 am
@revelette,
Gaddafi is already an animal; he kills his own citizens who demonstrate peaceably.
spendius
 
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Reply Fri 4 Mar, 2011 12:05 pm
@cicerone imposter,
A lot of them are armed ci. What would do with gangs of armed protesters in the suburbs of Chicago? I know--you would call them protesters if you had gratuitously decided to be on their side and animals if not.

Hence all you can do is wring your hands. Could Louisiana wrench itself from the Union by marching and chanting?

With your intelligence as a prism you always get a pretty pattern. And we all hope it matches the outcome.

Anybody would think that you are the only one who thinks Gadaffi is an animal. Why would an evolutionist think of pointing that out?

If he is a "dangerous animal when boxed in", as revelette says, who was it that boxed him in? Those who thought he was weak I suppose.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 4 Mar, 2011 12:06 pm
@spendius,
spendi, Libya, FYI, is not Chicago. No similarities what-so-ever.
spendius
 
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Reply Fri 4 Mar, 2011 02:20 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I think if the people of Chicago were as skint as the Libyans you would soon take that back.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 4 Mar, 2011 02:22 pm
@spendius,
spendi, You still don't understand how both governments operate; you are hopeless.
revelette
 
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Reply Fri 4 Mar, 2011 02:40 pm
Blast in Libyan rebel stronghold kills at least 17

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Libya – Hospital officials say an explosion at an ammunition depot in Libya's rebel stronghold of Benghazi has killed at least 17 people.

Dr. Habib al-Obeidi in Benghazi's al-Jalaa hospital says Friday's blast at a military base also hit a nearby residential area. Witnesses on the scene, about 20 miles (32 kilometers) from downtown, says ambulances are rushing to the area and secondary explosions caused two fire trucks to blow up.

The cause of the blast is unclear. Al-Obeidi says it apparently was triggered when people went into the storage facility to collect weapons, but others blamed pro-Gadhafi forces for triggering the blast.

The blast comes on a particularly deadly day in Libya, with nearly 30 people killed.


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spendius
 
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Reply Fri 4 Mar, 2011 03:05 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Skint people don't care how governments operate. They are always bored and disgruntled. You're worse than hopeless. You're not even aware that you're hopeless. That's how hopeless you are.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 4 Mar, 2011 03:06 pm
@spendius,
I know I'm hopeless; now, leave me alone! You're just too smart for me.
dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 4 Mar, 2011 03:11 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

I know I'm hopeless; now, leave me alone! You're just too smart for me.
you're a wise man C.I.
spendius
 
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Reply Fri 4 Mar, 2011 03:15 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Aw come on ci. I'm only joshing. And you called me hopeless first. I can't let that stand unanswered. I'm not a saint.
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Ceili
 
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Reply Fri 4 Mar, 2011 03:17 pm
Today's TED talk by Wael Ghonim is the Google executive who helped jumpstart Egypt's democratic revolution ... with a Facebook page memorializing a victim of the regime's violence. Speaking at TEDxCairo, he tells the inside story of the past two months, when everyday Egyptians showed that "the power of the people is stronger than the people in power."

http://www.ted.com/talks/wael_ghonim_inside_the_egyptian_revolution.html

"The power of the people is much stronger than the people in power."
JTT
 
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Reply Fri 4 Mar, 2011 03:28 pm
@Ceili,
Quote:
"The power of the people is much stronger than the people in power."


Sadly, that not usually the case in the USA, save for that brief moment when they forced the government out of Vietnam. Then they fell asleep and let that monumental crook/war criminal, Nixon, escape without being punished.
dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 4 Mar, 2011 03:40 pm
@JTT,
The irony is that paranoid schizophrenia personality disorders are often coupled with better than average intelligence. I think Richard Nixon demonstrated that irony in a textbook manner.
spendius
 
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Reply Fri 4 Mar, 2011 03:57 pm
@dyslexia,
Wasn't he stuck with an unwinnable war started by democrats?
talk72000
 
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Reply Fri 4 Mar, 2011 04:15 pm
@spendius,
The war was started by Eisenhower to help the French and after Ike, Kennedy put advisors in Vietnam and LBJ really ramp it up to a full blown war.
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spendius
 
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Reply Fri 4 Mar, 2011 04:15 pm
@dyslexia,
Hey dys--ci. just posted this at someone--

Quote:
You're so far off reality, your post has no fact or evidence to prove it.

It just shows how your view of the real world is non-existent. You show over and over that you post garbage that is created in your brain without any common sense or fact to support it - just like your example of how much anyone could have saved by investing $5,000/year over 30-years into a savings account with some ridiculous result in how much that person would end up with.

Quit making a fool of yourself, but I repeat myself!


Don't you think he deserves all he gets? I've had loads of that sort of thing directed at me by ci. And some others.
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