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The worlds first riddle!

 
 
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Reply Fri 18 Jun, 2004 12:04 pm
sounds to me the letter V

Well, you may be right. Very Happy

There are three pairs of balls - red, white, and blue. In each pair one ball is a little bit heavier than another one. All the heavy balls weigh the same, and all the light balls weigh the same. Also you have a balance scale.

Now, in just two weighing you have to determine the light and the heavy balls in each pair. How this can be done Question
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Reply Fri 18 Jun, 2004 05:14 pm
1. RW - RW - if scale is balanced you are doomed Smile If not then you know that on heavier side are heavier red and white balls.

2. You simply measure blue balls Smile

Yeah, yeah, I know it's not right answer, I just took a risky shot Smile
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Reply Sat 19 Jun, 2004 12:55 am
you are close my dear mou

you must lay a red ball on each side of the scale
and also on 1 side a blue ball and a white ball on the other.
we have RW - RB

if the scales are in balance white ball is the counterfeit of the red one and this is also true for the other 2 balls, so we only have to determine wich red ball is the heavy one and the white ball who was on the same scale is light one.

will be continued
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Reply Sat 19 Jun, 2004 05:16 am
You two are getting too damn close to finding an answer. Very Happy Very Happy Take the weekend off. Enjoy the sunshine. Football Rules OK! Cool


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"Plenty," replied G.

"Good. There is a way…


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They all have different pets.
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They all smoke different cigarettes.
The English man lives in the red house.
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Reply Tue 22 Jun, 2004 04:32 am
magnum wrote:
you are close my dear mou

you must lay a red ball on each side of the scale
and also on 1 side a blue ball and a white ball on the other.
we have RW - RB

if the scales are in balance white ball is the counterfeit of the red one and this is also true for the other 2 balls, so we only have to determine wich red ball is the heavy one and the white ball who was on the same scale is light one.

will be continued



here comes the second part Smile


if one scale is heavier we know one thing. On the heaviest scale is also the heaviest red ball. what we don't know is, what the weights are of the other balls

so what we do is place the red balls on one side and on the other side the white ball and blue one.

- if the red balls are heavier than the other balls are both the light ones

- if the red balls are lighter than the other balls were both the heavy ones

- if the scale is in balance than ball placed with the heavy red one is also the heavy ball and the other was a light one


i hope that it sounds clear and all but do not have any better explanation
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Reply Tue 22 Jun, 2004 06:31 am
Magnum, Final score Holland 4 Latvia 1. Very Happy
I think that would work very well. Strange as it seems I have four possible answers.

Original question.
There are three pairs of balls - red, white, and blue. In each pair one ball is a little bit heavier than another one. All the heavy balls weigh the same, and all the light balls weigh the same. Also you have a balance scale.

Now, in just two weighing you have to determine the light and the heavy balls in each pair. How this can be done?


1. Take 2 balls of same color (say blue).
2. Take one ball each of the other 2 colors; and put each one along with a Blue ball on the trays of the balance. (say Blue & White against Blue & Red)
3. There are 2 possibilities:
First:
i) If the balance is equal, then of the Red and the White balls, one is heavy and the other is light.
ii) Keeping track of which Blue ball was paired with which color, weigh the White and the Red balls against each other. Find which one is heavy. (let us say, White turns out to be the heavier one)
iii) Then the Blue weighed with the White is light and the Blue weighed with Red is heavy.

Second:
i) One side is heavier.
ii) The Blue ball on the heavier side is the heavy Blue one.
iii) Put both Blue balls on one side against the White and the Red balls on the other.
iii) If the side with the Blue balls is heavier, then the Red and the White balls are the light ones of their respective colours.
iv) If the other side is heavier, then the Red and the White are both heavy balls.
v) If the balance is equal, the ball that was paired with the heavy Blue ball during the first time is heavy and the other is light.

Example:

Red: R
White: W
Blue: B

1st weighing:
B1R1 Vs B2W1
Equal:
2nd weighing:
R1 Vs W1 (say R1 is heavier, which implies W2 is also heavy)
Then:
B1 is light and B2 is heavy. We know R1 and W2 are heavy therefore R2 and W1 are light.

Say:
B1R1 is heavier, then B1 is the heavy one and B2 the lighter.
2nd weighing:
B1B2 Vs R1W1
If B1B2 is heavier, R1 and W1 are both light, hence R2 and W2 are both heavy.
If R1W1 is heavier, R1 and W1 are both heavy, hence R2 and W2 are light.
If the balance is equal, R1 is heavy and W1 is light, therefore R2 is light and W2 is heavy.



Solution by David Low
Nothing like a long shower to clear out the cobwebs...

Place a red and blue marble on one side, and a red and white marble on the other.

Case 1. The two sides are the same:

Since there are not four heavy marbles or four light marbles, each side must have one light and one heavy marble. Thus the heavy red marble has a light marble with it, and the light red marble has a heavy marble with it.

For the second massing, just compare the two red marbles. The heavy and light red marbles are directly discovered. Moreover, the marble with the heavy red marble in the first massing is now known to be light, and the marble with the light red marble in the first massing is now known to be heavy. The untouched blue and white marbles will respectively be the opposite of their known same-colour partners.

Case 2. One side is heavier.

The heavier side cannot have the light red marble, since such a situation would give at most one heavy marble on the heavier side, and at least one heavy (red) marble on the lighter side, which is impossible. So the heavier side must have the heavy red marble, and the lighter side has the light red marble. The red marbles are discovered.

For the second massing, place the two red marbles on one side, and the one blue and one white marble from the first massing on the other side. If the blue/white side is heavier than the two reds, both marbles are heavy. If the blue/white side is lighter, both are light. If the balance is the same, then one marble is light and the other heavy. The marble that was with the heavy red in the first massing is heavy and the marble with the light red in the first massing is light, since the reverse would have resulted in a tie in the first massing.

As before, the untouched blue and white marbles will respectively be the opposite of their known same-colour partners.



Solution by Gregory Clayborne
This is a great puzzle. The hardest part is giving the solution in simple steps, but here goes...

Let's first label our balls... R1,R2,W1,W2,B1,B2 and then start weighing...


Weighing 1: Lets weigh R1,W1 vs R2,B1
There are two possible results:
The scales will balance or they won't.

If the scales balance: R1,W1 = R2,B1
then we know that there is a Heavy and a Light on each side. We just don't know who's who. We know this because the Reds can't both be Heavy nor can they both be Light. So we have the following possibilities for R1,W1 = R2,B1:

R1(H),W1(L) = R2(L),B1(H) or
R1(L),W1(H) = R2(H),B1(L)

Notice that this makes W1 the opposite of R1 and B1 the opposite of R2 so.....

Reds opposite Whites R1 = W2, R2 = W1
Reds equal Blues R1 = B1, R2 = B2

For the second weighing we just weigh the Reds against each other and the above equations will finish the results.


If the scales don't balance then it gets a little harder.
We know that R1 can't equal R2 and since the scales didn't balance then we know that
which ever side was Heavy has the Heavy Red ball. Don't believe me do you. Alright.

Let's say that the weighing looked like this:
R1,W1 > R2,B1 thus R1,W1 Heavier than R2,B1. If R1 was actually Light (thus making R2 Heavy) then the only values W1 and B1 could have would be Heavy and Light respectively. BUT that would have given us R1(L),W1(H) > R2(H),B1(L). WHICH WOULD HAVE BALANCED (see L,H = H,L) SO R1 has to be Heavy if it's scale went down.

That being proven, let's stick with the assumption that R1(H) and R2(L) just to make the
logic easier to follow...

The first weighing then gives us the results...
W1 and B1 are the same (both Heavy or both Light) OR
W1 opposite B1 with W1 being the same as R1 and B1 being the same as R2.

This leads us to the final weighing...
We just switch R2 and W1 and wind up weighing R1,R2 vs. W1,B1.

If the scales balance then R1(H) R2(L) and W1(H) B1(L)
If the scales don't balance than R1(H) R2(L) and W1 = B1.

But wait, that doesn't tell us if W1 and B1 are Heavy or Light?
Just answer the question. Did the W1,B1 side of the scale go up or down. There's your answer. The final scale would look like one of the following:

R1(H),R2(L) > W1(L),B1(L) OR
R1(H),R2(L) < W1(H),B1(H)

Ta daaaa.

Like I said. This is a great puzzle. Hope you could get through the logic. I really need to draw it out. Gregory



Solution by Shashi
I consider the pair as R1,R2; B1,B2 ; W1,W2

First weighing

R1+W1 against R2+B1
case 1: if it balances then
second weighing,
Weigh R1 and R2 and find out which is heavier, this also tells which of (W1,B1) is heavier.

case 2 if it does not balance
second weighing
weigh R1+R2 against W1+B1
if R1+R2 side goes down then both W1 and B1 are lighter balls of their pairs
if W1+B1 side goes down then both W1 and B1 are heavier balls of their pairs
if it balances
then the ball which was with lighter red ball in the first weighing is lighter i.e., if R1 was lighter then W1 is also lighter



Solution by Marcus Dunstan
6 Balls
White = W1, W2
Red=R1,R2
Blue=B1,B2

First weigh: W1+R1 v W2+B1

If balanced then R1 & B1 must be one HEAVY (H) and one LIGHT (L) (because we know W1 and W2 are one HEAVY and one LIGHT)
If balanced, the second weigh is to swap R1 and B1. ie second weigh is W1+B1 v W2+R1
The side of scales that goes down has 2 HEAVY balls, side of scales that goes up has 2 LIGHT balls.

>From this situation weight of all 6 balls is now known.

If first weigh W1+R1 v W2+B1 is not balanced then you know that the side that goes DOWN must contain the HEAVY white ball eg. W1+R1 v W2+B1
Possible combinations: H+H v L+H, H+H v L+L, H+L v L+L then W1 is HEAVY
or
Possible combinations: L+H v H+H, L+L v H+H, L+L v H+L then W2 is HEAVY
Cannot be combinations: H+L v L+H or L+H v H+L as scales would balance

So at this stage you know the weight of the two white balls only
*** HOWEVER you must also note the colour of the ball on the same side as the LIGHT white ball as this will have bearing depending on the results of the second weigh.

The second weigh would then be W1+W2 v R1+B1
If W1+W2 side goes down then combination must be H+L v L+L or L+H v L+L ie
both R1 and B1are LIGHT
If W1+W2 side goes up then combination must be H+L v H+H or L+H v H+H ie
both R1 and B1 are HEAVY
If W1+W2 balances with R1+B1 then you must have one HEAVY and one LIGHT
ball on the R1+B1 side
The only way this can occur (bearing in mind the results of the first weigh) is if the coloured ball noted above *** was LIGHT

>From this situation weight of all 6 balls is now known.





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Greed sidles up to you and whispers, "Actually, there are an infinite number. And it can all be yours!"

Upon seeing your raised eyebrow, he continues. "The rules are simple. 20 of the coins are heads, the rest are tails. All you have to do is split all the coins into just two groups so that the number of heads is the same in both groups."

Seeing the obvious difficulties, you begin to protest. "But..."

"You can turn over as many coins as you like," he interrupts. "And the groups do not have to have the same number of coins in them."

"Oh ok. Can I start now?"

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"How can I get through it all in a day...! What do you mean blind me...!?"

Although you cannot see him, you are quite certain that he is grinning.


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It sounds simple, right? Ferry one item across at a time, and come back for the others? Well, if John leaves the goat with the cabbages alone on one side of the river the goat will eat the cabbages. If he leaves the wolf and the goat on one side the wolf will eat the goat. If john is there, only he can separate the wolf from the goat and the goat from the cabbage.


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Reply Tue 22 Jun, 2004 08:39 am
River (my favourites remember? and this one is much easier then lot of previouse ones Wink )

1 - John boats with goat and leaves it on the other side
2 - John boats with wolf and they both go out on the other side, where John takes goat and boats back where they both go out
3 - John takes cabbage and leaves it on the other side
4- John takes goat to the other side

in the 2nd turn he is always "there" and condition is that he can separate wolf-goat, and take goat from cabbage
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Reply Tue 22 Jun, 2004 09:16 am
"River (my favourites remember? and this one is much easier then lot of previous ones."

That, my dear myO, is because there two ways to solve this problem. You have answered one, Very Happy can you think of another way Question


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Reply Tue 22 Jun, 2004 09:25 am
1 - John and goat
2 - John and cabbage, John and goat going back
3 - John and wolf
4 - John and goat Smile

28 days, 27 nights?
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Reply Tue 22 Jun, 2004 09:27 am
Coins - you simply take any 20 coins.
Let's imagine they're all tails. You just turn them to other side, and then you will have 20-20 of heads in each group
If some of those were heads, never mind, in that case by turning you will again make same number of heads in both groups.
At least I think so Smile
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Reply Tue 22 Jun, 2004 11:45 am
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Reply Tue 22 Jun, 2004 02:01 pm
Well, since I am watching football with one eye and just having fun with this riddle I believe I must have overlooked something as well Smile But I think that this satisfied all conditions:

1 - Aa go to other shore, where a stays
(ABCDbcd - a)
2 - bc go to other shore, c coming back
(ABCDcd - ab)
3 - AB go to other shore - Aa coming back
(ACDacd - Bb)
4 - cd go to island, d comes back
(ACDad - c - Bb)
5 - ad go to island, d comes back
(ACDd - ac - Bb)
6 - AC go to other side, b coming to island
(Dd - abc - ABC - boat on island)
7 - ab go to other shore, C coming to island
(Dd - Cc - ABab - boat on island)
8 - C comes to start, takes D, they go to other side, ab coming back to start
(abd - c - ABCD)
9 - a goes to island, takes c to other side, a coming back
(abd - ABCDc)
10 - a transfers b
(ad - ABCDbc)
11 - ad go to other side
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Reply Tue 22 Jun, 2004 03:12 pm
Italy out of the cup! It is hard to believe. Sad So is your answer. I had 17 moves. Crying or Very sad Are you sure you followed the moves with your one eye?

"the young men were so extremely jealous that not one of them would permit his prospective bride to remain at any time in the company of any other man or men unless he was also present.

Nor was any man to get into a boat alone when there happened to be a girl alone, on the island or shore, other than the one to whom he was engaged."

I am searching for my answer, in the meantime is there anyone else who could help?
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Reply Tue 22 Jun, 2004 04:07 pm
what's wrong with mine? Smile I still don't see any mistakes but it's over midnight here....
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Reply Wed 23 Jun, 2004 06:13 am
MyO, your solution appears brilliant. Cool It will raise the standard for evermore. Very Happy

A farmer from a small community is out of money. After a mysterious disease spread among and killed his livestock, he now needs to quickly make up for the lost animals. He needs a whole grand.

Knowing that the bank won't lend him any money, he pays a visit to the local loan shark. The outlaw, who's known to have a bit of an obsession with puzzles, proposes a deal.

With the $1,000 he gets, the farmer has to be able to buy a combination of cows, pigs, and sheep, to total exactly 100 heads of livestock. The combination has to include at least one cow ($100 each), one pig ($30 each), and one sheep ($5 each). The total amount of money spent for the 100 animals has to equal exactly $1,000.

If the farmer manages to accomplish the task, he'll have to return the money with a "friendly" interest rate. Otherwise, he'll get the normal rate, and the threat of a broken...

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After entering the maze the first junction you come to is a 'T' intersection where you may continue to the left or the right. You decide to turn right. A short while later you come to another seemingly identical intersection, this time you turn to the left.

Hours later, after arriving at several hundred identical intersections and more or less randomly choosing left or right you eventually decide to head back (it's being some time since your last meal). Unfortunately you can't remember the way you came and you didn't bring anything useful with you such as chalk or string.

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Reply Wed 23 Jun, 2004 07:34 am
One day you attempt to solve the ultimate maze. A massive underground labyrinth with countless twists and turns.

After entering the maze the first junction you come to is a 'T' intersection where you may continue to the left or the right. You decide to turn right. A short while later you come to another seemingly identical intersection, this time you turn to the left.

Hours later, after arriving at several hundred identical intersections and more or less randomly choosing left or right you eventually decide to head back (it's being some time since your last meal). Unfortunately you can't remember the way you came and you didn't bring anything useful with you such as chalk or string.

What do you do to escape

when you walk back you must have in mind that there were only T intersections, so when you walk back that same intersections do not have the shape of a T anymore. therefore you must take the turns where the original junction was a T intersection.
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Reply Wed 23 Jun, 2004 10:49 am
"What do you do to escape, when you walk back you must have in mind that there were only T intersections, so when you walk back that same intersections do not have the shape of a T anymore. Therefore you must take the turns where the original junction was a T intersection." Very Happy Cool



Who says this is the ultimate unsolvable (math) riddle?

Calvin and Fuzz are nerds and like doing nerdy things. So Calvin called Fuzz one day...

"Fuzz, I've finished tracing my family tree back from the year 1400 AD, and I found one quite special guy".

"What's so special about him?" asked Fuzz.

"Well, he was x years old in the year x^2 (x squared) and he had a son who was y years old in the year y^3 (y cubed)".

Fuzz looked perplexed "Sorry Calvin, but I can't solve for x or y".

"Well, he was your age when his son was born." said Calvin.

"You're right" said Fuzz "He was a special old guy! But I still can't solve for x or y".


How old was the old guy when his son was born Question
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Reply Thu 24 Jun, 2004 04:31 am
A farmer from a small community is out of money. After a mysterious disease spread among and killed his livestock, he now needs to quickly make up for the lost animals. He needs a whole grand.

Knowing that the bank won't lend him any money, he pays a visit to the local loan shark. The outlaw, who's known to have a bit of an obsession with puzzles, proposes a deal.

With the $1,000 he gets, the farmer has to be able to buy a combination of cows, pigs, and sheep, to total exactly 100 heads of livestock. The combination has to include at least one cow ($100 each), one pig ($30 each), and one sheep ($5 each). The total amount of money spent for the 100 animals has to equal exactly $1,000.

If the farmer manages to accomplish the task, he'll have to return the money with a "friendly" interest rate. Otherwise, he'll get the normal rate, and the threat of a broken...

How many of each kind of livestock did the farmer buy

5 cows
94 sheep
1 pig
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Reply Thu 24 Jun, 2004 05:44 am
How many of each kind of livestock did the farmer buy

5 cows
94 sheep
1 pig
Yes Sir. Very Happy Now, something closer to home.

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Reply Thu 24 Jun, 2004 03:05 pm
Why are 1990 dollar bills worth more than 1989 dollar bills

1990 > 1989 Smile
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