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The worlds first riddle!

 
 
markr
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2006 10:45 am
[size=8]ENVELOPES
That's a paradox. Flip a coin.
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2006 12:50 pm
In an effort to maintain my opulent lifestyle, I am thinking of expanding ranching operations into Australia. There is a problem however:

Overstock a field and sheep may not graze for long. They will clear the grass, nibble away the roots, and ultimately starve to death. Take my small field for instance (14k acres), I have found that it can maintain eight sheep for three weeks. After which there is not a blade of grass in sight. On the other hand, if I reduced the flock to six, they can graze for five weeks.

What I am trying to work out is the size of the flock the field will support, if the appetite of the sheep is to match the steady rate of grass growth, thereby keeping the field neatly cropped, while maintaining the original amount of grass Question
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markr
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2006 02:15 pm
[size=8]SHEEP
3 sheep
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2006 03:08 pm
Sheep no more!

My two brothers share a flock of x sheep. They take the sheep to the market and sell each sheep for $x. At the end of the day they put the money from the sales on the table to divide it equally. All money is in $10 bills, except for less than ten excess $1 bills. One at a time, they take out $10 bills.

The brother who draws first also draws last. The second brother complains about getting one less $10 bill so the first brother offers him all the $1 bills. The second brother still received a total less than the first brother did, so he asks the first brother to write him a check to balance the things out.

How much was the check Question
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markr
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2006 08:24 pm
[size=8]CHECK
(10 - (x mod 10)) / 2 dollars
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raprap
 
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Reply Tue 24 Jan, 2006 01:06 am
Check----2 dollah

Rap
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Tue 24 Jan, 2006 05:54 am
Dadpad & Co:

Which color light has the highest frequency
violet. Cool

ultra violet and infra red are at opposite ends of the spectrum I think
high frequency light is violet and low frequency light is red

BTW Great diagram. Razz


What is the general name for a solution that produces positive ions and has a pH of 0 to 7
Acid Cool

What is measured by all of the following: miles, meters, light years
Distance. Cool

On VENUS the "rain" evaporates before it reaches the planet surface. The rain isn't water. What is it
acid, sulphuric acid. Cool


Way to go gang. Laughing


Mark:

ENVELOPES
That's a paradox. Flip a coin. Cool Cool

Damn! Right again.


SHEEP
3 sheep Cool

In the first case, the flock consumes a total of 8x3 = 24 weeks fodder for one sheep. In the second case, 6x5 = 30.
So two weeks extra growth supplies 30-24 = six weeks fodder for one sheep, or one weeks fodder for six sheep.
Therefore, one weeks growth will support these three sheep for one week.

CHECK
(10 - (x mod 10)) / 2 dollars Cool


Let the total number of sheep be 10x+y, where y<10. The total money raised is (10x+y)2 = 100x2 + 20xy + y2. Regardless of the values of x and y 100x2 + 20xy will be divisible by 20. Because the number of $10 bills is odd y2 mod 20 must be greater than 10 and less than 20. The only values of y where this is true is 4 and 6, where y2 is either 16 or 36. Either way there will be 6 $1 bills left over. Before the check the first brother will have $4 more than the second brother. A $2 check will balance things out.


Nice set.


Raprap:
Check----2 dollah Cool h

Hey Rap, good to see the English lessons are paying off handsomely. How are you doin? Long time no sea. Laughing




A factory downtown that produces tables and chairs is equipped with 10 saws, 6 lathes, and 18 sanding machines.

It takes a chair 10 minutes on a saw, 5 minutes on a lathe, and 5 minutes of sanding to be completed.

It takes a table 5 minutes on a saw, 5 minutes on a lathe, and 20 minutes of sanding to be completed.

A chair sells for $10 and a table sells for $20. How many tables and chairs should the factory produce per hour to yield the highest revenue Question And what is that revenue Question



An eight-inch pizza is cut into 3 equal slices. A ten-inch pizza is cut into 4 equal slices. A twelve-inch pizza is cut into 6 equal slices. A fourteen inch pizza is cut into 8 equal slices. From which pizza would you take a slice if you want as much pizza as possible Question

(a) 8 - inch
(b) 10 - inch
(c) 12 - inch
(d) 14 - inch
(e) Who cares



One store sold red plums at four for a dollar and yellow plums at three for a dollar. A second store sold red plums at four for a dollar and yellow plums at six for a dollar. You bought m red plums and n yellow plums from each store, spending a total of ten dollars. How many plums in all did you buy Question

(a) 10
(b) 20
(c) 30
(d) 40
(e) Not enough information



Yesterday I wrote, "Good luck to Stephen Harper in the Canada's election today. I have a bundle riding on you dude."

Today, we are all very much richer. I hope y'all took the hint.

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markr
 
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Reply Tue 24 Jan, 2006 10:29 am
"(10 - (x mod 10)) / 2 dollars"
Whoops. I didn't notice that there were x^2 dollars.

[size=8]PIZZAS
10"

PLUMS
20
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Tue 24 Jan, 2006 12:35 pm
That's ok, we know what you meant. Laughing

This is without a doubt the most difficult question ever posted: Twisted Evil

A king has 100 young ladies in his court each with an individual dowry.

No two dowry's are the same.

The king says you may marry the one with the highest dowry if you correctly choose her. The king says that he will parade the ladies one at a time before you and each will tell you her dowry.

Only at the time a particular lady is in front of you may you select her.

The question is what is the strategy that maximizes your chances to choose the lady with the largest dowry Question
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raprap
 
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Reply Tue 24 Jan, 2006 05:07 pm
Pizza
[size=7]The question here is to find the maximum slice size, assuming that all pizzas are the same thickness and the crust doesn't count. The largest slice is then the pizza area divided by the number of slices. The slice with the greatest area is the 10 inch pizza (b)[/size]

Table and chairs
[size=7]A table takes 30 minutes time and sells for $20, so tables can make $40/hr. A chair takes 20 minutes and sells for $10, so you can make $30/hr. So off the top is seems like you should maximize table production based upon machinery availability.

Machinery availability. For tables it is the sanders. Sander production is limited to 54 tables per hr. So the mill can make $1080/hr on tables. Chairs are saw limited to 60 per hour and the mill can make $600/hr on tables.

The result? The mill should make tables, sell the surplus saws and lathes, and buy sanders to maximize table production. This is another optimization problem[/size]


Plums
[size=7]The number of plumbs bought from both stores for $10 is an integer between 35 and 53 (inclusive) except for 52. Since the only choice in the answer menu that is between 35 and 53 is 40, I'd check 40 (d) as the correct answer.[/size]

Rap
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markr
 
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Reply Tue 24 Jan, 2006 07:53 pm
[size=8]DOWRY
The strategy is to note the maximum of the dowries of the first N women, then pick the first woman after that with a dowry that is greater.

For 100 women, I think N is ten.
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markr
 
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Reply Tue 24 Jan, 2006 08:05 pm
[size=8]TABLES & CHAIRS
revenue = $1200
chairs = 24
tables = 48
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raprap
 
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Reply Tue 24 Jan, 2006 09:59 pm
Tables and Chairs

[size=7]Markr is right again (dammit)

By varying the production rate you can get better machine utilization

The optimal production rate curve is
# Tables # Chairs Prod ($)
54 0 1080
53 4 1100
52 8 1120
51 12 1140
50 16 1160
49 20 1180
48 24 1200
47 25 1190
46 26 1180
45 27 1170
44 28 1160
43 29 1150
42 30 1140
41 31 1130

As you can see it maximizes at 48 tables per hour and 24 chairs per hour
This is also accompanied by 100% usage of two of the machines.[/size]


Rap
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raprap
 
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Reply Tue 24 Jan, 2006 10:32 pm
Dowry

[size=7]This is an extension of Baysean probabilities, and if memory serves me from a class I once took on quality assurance sampling let a third of the sample pass and pick the next one with a value greater (or less) than any of the first third.

I haven't worked this out so this is just be a memory induced inductive strategy and not an analytical solution.[/size]


Rap
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markr
 
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Reply Tue 24 Jan, 2006 11:29 pm
[size=8]TABLE & CHAIRS
The problem is to maximize 10C + 20T subject to:
10C + 5T <= 10*60
5C + 5T <= 6*60
5C + 20T <= 18*60

The solution space is a pentagon bounded by:
C = 0
T = 0
and the three lines from above.

The optimal answer will be at the intersection of two of the lines. You just need to compute the revenue function at the four non-trivial intersections ((0,0) can't be optimal).

For complex problems of this sort, there is an algorithm called the simplex method.

PLUMS
m/4 + n/3 + m/4 + m/6 = 10
m/2 + n/2 = 10
m + n = 20
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markr
 
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Reply Tue 24 Jan, 2006 11:44 pm
[size=8]DOWRY
OK, I looked it up, and I had the right method, but the wrong value. N/e (N=100 in this case) is what you want to look at first. Rap was awfully close.
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raprap
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2006 05:50 am
Markr

On the plum problem aren't you inherently making the assumption that the number of red and yellow plums purchased at each store the same?

[size=7]When I looked at the problem the number of red plums purchased was
n=n1+n2
and
m=m1+m2
so retting up the equations
n1/4+n2/4+m1/3+m2/6=10
becomes
(n1+n2)/4+(2m1+m2)/6=10
this becomes
n/2=(n1+n2)/4 only if n1=n2
and
m/3=(2m1+m2)/6 only if m1=m2
moreover if this is the case,
then n and m represent only half the plums purchased at each store since
n=n1+n2 and m=m1+m2
example if I bought 5 red plums at each store for a total of 10 red plums, then I'd spend &2.50 at each store leaving $7.50 for yellow plums. If I bought the remainder of 10 plums with 5 at each store I'd spend (5/3=)$1.67) at store 1 and (5/6=) $0.83 at store 2, for a total of $2.50 on yellow plums. I'd then spend $5.00 for 20 plums.

Interestingly if you double your condition that you bought the same number of plums at each store, you'd have 40 plums and spend $10 which is the only possibly correct answer given in Try's menu.

Now my solution isn't as elegant as yours. I worked this out spending integral dollars at each store and found that the total number of plums could be any integer from 35 to 53 except 52.[/size]


Rap
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2006 06:18 am
Nice answers guys. I am in a rush today (hope to return pm tomorrow. Take good care of the place) so here are the answers; Pick the ones you want. Cool Cool


Pizza

The area of a circle is proportional to the square of its radius. It follows that we are comparing 16/3, 25/4, 36/6 and 49/8


Mark:

PLUMS
m/4 + n/3 + m/4 + m/6 = 10
m/2 + n/2 = 10
m + n = 20




Plums

The total expenditure is 10 = m/4 + n/3 + m/4 + n/6 = (m + n)/2.



Mark:

TABLES & CHAIRS
revenue = $1200
chairs = 24
tables = 48


TABLE & CHAIRS
The problem is to maximize 10C + 20T subject to:
10C + 5T <= 10*60
5C + 5T <= 6*60
5C + 20T <= 18*60

The solution space is a pentagon bounded by:
C = 0
T = 0
and the three lines from above.

The optimal answer will be at the intersection of two of the lines. You just need to compute the revenue function at the four non-trivial intersections ((0,0) can't be optimal).

For complex problems of this sort, there is an algorithm called the simplex method.

PLUMS
m/4 + n/3 + m/4 + m/6 = 10
m/2 + n/2 = 10
m + n = 20


Raprap:

By varying the production rate you can get better machine utilization

The optimal production rate curve is
# Tables # Chairs Prod ($)
54 0 1080
53 4 1100
52 8 1120
51 12 1140
50 16 1160
49 20 1180
48 24 1200
47 25 1190
46 26 1180
45 27 1170
44 28 1160
43 29 1150
42 30 1140
41 31 1130

As you can see it maximizes at 48 tables per hour and 24 chairs per hour
This is also accompanied by 100% usage of two of the machines.




A factory
The maximum profit per hour, of $1200, comes when 24 chairs and 48 tables are produced per hour.
The 10 saws can produce 600 minutes of work per hour (10 saws * 60 minutes).
The 6 lathes can produce 360 minutes of work per hour (6 lathes * 60 minutes).
The 18 sanding machines can produce 1080 minutes of work per hour (18 sanding machines * 60 minutes).
Let c be the number of chairs produced per hour and t the number of tables produced per hour.
The number of saws limit the combination of chairs and tables to 600=10c+5t.
The number of lathes limit the combination of chairs and tables to 360=5c+5t.
The number of sanding machines limit the combination of chairs and tables to 1080=5c+20t.
Next graph these three lines. It should be expected that the answer will lie on the intersection of two of these lines or to make all chairs or all tables. The intersection of the saw and sanding machine line occurs outside of how many chairs the lathe can make so this combination is not a viable answer. The saw and lathe lines cross at 48 chairs and 24 tables. The lathe and sanding machine lines cross at 24 chairs and 48 tables.
Next determine the revenue at all points of intersection.

Chairs Tables Revenue
60……. 0……. 600
48…… 24….. ..960
24…… 48….. 1200
0…….. 54….. 1080

So the optimal answer is to make 24 chairs and 48 tables for revenue of $1200 per hour.

To check it will take 24*10 + 48*5 = 480 minutes of saw time. There are 600 minutes available so the saws will be idle 20% of the time.

It will take 24*5 + 48*5 = 360 minutes of lathe time, which is exactly what we have.

It will take 24*5 + 48*20 = 1080 minutes of sanding machine time, which is exactly what we have.


Mark:

DOWRY
The strategy is to note the maximum of the dowries of the first N women, then pick the first woman after that with a dowry that is greater.

Rap:
This is an extension of Baysean probabilities, and if memory serves me from a class I once took on quality assurance sampling let a third of the sample pass and pick the next one with a value greater (or less) than any of the first third.
I haven't worked this out so this is just be a memory induced inductive strategy and not an analytical solution.

I am glad to see you were paying attention. Great answers. Cool Cool

You should let 37 ladies go by and select the first one with a dowry greater than the maximum of the first 37 dowry's.

Let x be the number of ladies you pass before choosing the next lady with a dowry greater than the first x ladies. Let max x be the maximum dowry in the first x ladies.

The probability of winning is sum for i=x+1 to 100 of the probability that the highest dowry is in the ith position multiplied by the probability that you choose it if it is in that position.

This is based on the condition probability formula: Pr(A)=Sum for i=1 to n of Pr( A | Bi ) * Pr( Bi ), where the sum for i=1 to n of Pr(Bi)=1.
For all i the probability that the highest dowry is in that position is 1/100.
The probability that you will choose the dowry if it is in the ith position is equal to the probability that the highest of the first i-1 dowries belongs to one of the first x ladies. This equals x/(i-1). If the highest dowry of the first i-1 were not in the first x ladies you would choose it before getting to the largest dowry, thus losing the game.

For example if you let 30 ladies pass the probability that the highest dowry is in the 75th postion and that you will choose it equals 1/100 * 30/74.

Let A denote the overall probability of winning. The proability of winning given x is the sum for i=x+1 to 100 of x/(i-1) * 1/n. This equals:
Pr(1/n * [ 1 + x/(x+1) + x/(x+2) + ... + x/99 ] ).

Some value of x must be optimal to maximize this formula. This value of x must the first such that Pr(A|x+1) - Pr(A|x) < 0.
Pr(A|x+1) - Pr(A|x) = 1/n * [ 1/(x+2) + 1/(x+3) + 1/(x+4) + ... + 1/99 - x/(x+1) ].
let y=x+1.
Pr(A|x+1) - Pr(A|x) = 1/n * [ 1/(y+1) + 1/(y+2) + 1/(y+3) + ... + 1/99 - (y-1)/y ]. =
Pr(A|x+1) - Pr(A|x) = 1/n * [ 1/(y+1) + 1/(y+2) + 1/(y+3) + ... + 1/99 - 1 + 1/y ]. =
Pr(A|x+1) - Pr(A|x) = 1/n * [ 1/y + 1/(y+1) + 1/(y+2) + 1/(y+3) + ... + 1/99 - 1 ].
If Pr(A|x+1) - Pr(A|x) = 0, then 1/y + 1/(y+1) + 1/(y+2) + 1/(y+3) + ... + 1/99 = 1.

Theorem: The integral from r to n of 1/x = log(n) - log(r) = log(n/r).
The equation above the theorm is an approximation of the integral in the theorem. By applying the theorem log(100/y) = 1.
Taking e to the power of both sides: 100/y = e.
y=100/e.
Since e=~2.7182818 y=~36.79, since x=y-1 x=~35.79.
Since the integral is an underestimate of the series look at some specific values of Pr(A) for values of x close to 35.79:
x A
--- ---
35 37.0709%
36 37.1015%
37 37.1043%
38 37.0801%

So the optimal strategy is to let 37 ladies pass and then choose the first lady with a dowry larger than the greatest of the first 37.

In general the answer is going to be n/e, where n is the total number of ladies. Because the answer must be an exact integer and error in applying the theorem mentioned above you should check the few integers just above the optimal value. As n increases the error decreases. The probability of winning turns out to approach 1/e =~ 36.79% as n approaches infinity (I'll leave this proof up to you).

Here are some optimal values of x for various values of n and the probability of winning given x:
Code:
n x Pr(winning)
---- --- -----------
3 2 50.00%
4 2 43.83%
5 3 43.33%
6 3 42.78%
7 3 41.43%
8 4 40.98%
9 4 40.60%
10 4 39.87%
15 6 38.94%
20 8 38.42%
30 12 37.87%
50 19 37.42%
100 38 37.10%
1000 369 36.82%


For more information I suggest section 2.5 of Probability and Statistics, second edition by Morris H. DeGroot.



At McRonalds you can order Chicken Nuggets in boxes of 6, 9, and 20. What is the largest number such that you cannot order any combination of the above to achieve exactly the number you want Question



You need to warm milk in a baby bottle from its initial temperature of 15 degrees centigrade to 25 degrees. You put the bottle in a pot of boiling water which stays at constant temperature of 100 degrees.

The thickness and conductivity of the bottle are such that the initial rate of heat transfer is 85 degrees per minute. However, heat transfer is proportional to the difference between the temperature of the milk and the water.

How many minutes will it take to heat the bottle to 25 degrees Question
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dadpad
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2006 06:53 am
The question is what is the strategy that maximizes your chances to choose the lady with the largest dowry

[size=7]the one with the big tits[/size]
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raprap
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2006 08:05 am
dadpad

Use the same strategy. Sample the first third and then choose the next one with bigger tits. I'd be happy to do the sampling for you.

McNuggets



Milk Heating

[size=7]Tm is milk temperature, t is time in minutes
dTm/dt=100-Tm
so dTm/(100-Tm)=dt
-ln(100-Tm)=t+C where C is constant of integration
B.C. @ t=0, Tm=15 so
-ln(100-15)=0+C and C=-ln(85)
so
-ln(100-Tm)=t-ln(85)
and
t=ln(85)-ln(100-Tm)=ln(85/(100-Tm))
when Tm=25 then
t=ln(85/(100-25))=ln(85/75)=0.125 min (about)=7.5 seconds (about)[/size]


Rap
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