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The worlds first riddle!

 
 
paulaj
 
  1  
Reply Sat 5 Mar, 2005 10:54 am
I'm just playing around with my little view point.

"Nowhere" can be "Now-here" if you want to look at it that way, and I did.

My child-like view point. :-)
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Liessa
 
  1  
Reply Sat 5 Mar, 2005 12:34 pm
Month:
I'm not sure, but it should the month when daylight savings begins. Over here, that's in March, so I'm guessing May (seems late for that)

1. 116 years (there's a series of Dutch books I've read about 200 times about this war Smile )
2. Equador
3. sheep
4. November. There was a big thing about switching calenders. The revolution was in October in one calender, and in November in the other one.
5. Squirrel
6. Dogs. Canus is Latin for dog, there were many dogs when the islands were discovered.
7. Albert. Queen Victoria has asked that no kings were named Albert anymore.
8. red
9. New Zealand
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markr
 
  1  
Reply Sat 5 Mar, 2005 05:36 pm
COUPLES
yes and no (but neither did I)
My spouse and I each shook the same three hands - one each from the other three couples.
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Tryagain
 
  1  
Reply Sun 6 Mar, 2005 05:19 am
Paula:
"Nowhere" can be "Now-here" if you want to look at it that way, and I did.

Now, that's what I call lateral thinking. Laughing

For the less enlightened, there is;
The point in the Atlantic Ocean where the Prime Meridian crosses the Equator off the Bight of Africa.


Liessa:
Month:
I'm not sure, but it should the month when daylight savings begins. Over here, that's in March, so I'm guessing May (seems late for that)

Now I can not ask the same question about the Netherlands. Laughing
The months of January, March, May, July, August, October and December all have 31 days, but October has an extra hour in it because of the switch back from Daylight Saving Time, making it the longest month of the year. (USA)


Liessa, you know far too much, you should party more.

1. 116 years (there's a series of Dutch books I've read about 200 times about this war ) Cool
2. Equador Cool
3. sheep Cool
4. November. There was a big thing about switching calenders. The revolution was in October in one calender, and in November in the other one. Cool
5. Squirrel Cool
6. Dogs. Canus is Latin for dog, there were many dogs when the islands were discovered. Cool
7. Albert. Queen Victoria has asked that no kings were named Albert anymore. Cool
8. red Cool
9. New Zealand Cool



Mark:
IRRATIONAL
sqrt(2) * sqrt(8) = sqrt(16) = 4

Clean and simple. Cool

What is your opinion on:
Let Z=\sqrt{2}\sqrt{2} and Y=\sqrt{2}.
If Z is irrational, then X=Z, and XY = [\sqrt{2}\sqrt{2}]\sqrt{2}=2 is rational, or If Z is rational, then X=Y, and XY is Z, so is rational.


COUPLES
yes and no (but neither did I)
My spouse and I each shook the same three hands - one each from the other three couples. Cool

Every time I think one question has passed you by, you continue to amaze. I think you have the jest of it. Laughing

We begin with what we know: since nobody shook hands with more than six persons, and the seven people other than yourself all shook hands with a different number of people, the numbers must have been:
0,1,2,3,4,5,6, respectively.

Let us begin with "0"--whom we shall call the introvert, because this person shook nobody's hand. At the other extreme was "6"--whom we shall call the extrovert for obvious reasons. The extrovert shook everybody's hand, except his/her own spouse. Since the extrovert and the introvert did not shake hands, the introvert must be the extrovert's spouse.

0&6 are a couple, leaving 1,2,3,4,5 and yourself.

Consider the remaining five people other than yourself. Each of these shook hands with the extrovert, and none with the introvert.

One of these five people-- "1", the quasi-introvert--only shook hands with one other person, the extrovert. Another--"5", the quasi-extrovert--shook hands with five people, everyone except his/her own spouse and the introvert ("0").

Therefore, the quasi-introvert and the quasi-extrovert form a couple. 0&6, 1&5 are couples, leaving 2,3,4 and yourself.

In the same way, "2" and "4" form a couple--we'll call them the pseudo-introvert and pseudo-extrovert, respectively.

0&6, 1&5, 2&4 are couples, leaving 3 and yourself.

Therefore, your spouse is the one who shook hands with three other persons. Furthermore, you and your spouse shook hands with the same people: the extrovert ("6"), the quasi-extrovert ("5"), and the psuedo-extrovert ("4"). This gregarious group includes Pat (one of our givens: you shook hands with Pat), and therefore must exclude Chris.

Answer: Your spouse shook hands with Pat, but not Chris. Shocked




You must help Pete the pancake chef! He's desperately trying to sort his pancakes by size. How many flips will it take?

There is a stack of N pancakes -- each one a different size -- on top of the griddle. Your goal is to get the pancakes in a stack arranged by size, with the largest pancake on the bottom, smallest one on top. You must accomplish this by flipping the pancakes a limited number of times.

For each flip, you must (on Pete's behalf):
Choose a number k between 1 and N. Pick a pancake in the kth position (counting from the topmost pancake) and insert your spatula under it (between the pancakes in position k and (k+1). Then flip the pancakes on your spatula, reversing the order.

Example:
N=5 (Numbers on the pancakes represent the size of the pancake, not its position.) The smallest pancake is labelled "1":

Initial position: Top 1 3 5 2 4 Griddle
First move (k=3)
Yields: Top 5 3 1 2 4 Griddle
Second move (k=5) Yields: Top 4 2 1 3 5 Griddle
Third move (k=4) Yields: Top 3 1 2 4 5 Griddle
Fourth move (k=3) Yields: Top 2 1 3 4 5 Griddle
Fifth move (k=2) Yields: Top 1 2 3 4 5 Griddle
We used 5 moves to sort the stack.



Here's what I want you to tell me:

For a given N, what is the least number of flips with which you can guarantee that you will correctly sort the stack Question

For every N, for every initial position, can it be done in N flips Question

How many flips could be required for a given N and the worst possible initial position Question

In other words, if we consider N to be fixed, for each initial permutation, there is some minimum number of flips that works. Find the maximum of these minima as you vary the permutations, i.e. find a hardest permutation.

E.g. if N=5, the permutation (Top 2,1,3,4,5 Griddle) would require only one flip, although you could take a roundabout path and take 13 flips. The minimum for this permutation is 1. The minimum for the permutation (Top 1 3 5 2 4 Griddle) is 5 flips as shown. It turns out that any other permutation can also be done in 5 flips. So 5 is the answer.

Or, to put this in simple mathematical terms: For N=number of pancakes, p=permutation Let f(N,p) be the minimum number of flips when faced with initial permutation p; let g(N) be the maximum of f(N,p) over choices of p. Find g (N).

Although this problem may appear simple at first, the solution is actually fairly complex. Twisted Evil




Surveys, don't you just hate them?

Q: According to surveys, men are THREE TIMES more likely to be afraid of one of these. What are they more likely than women to be afraid of Question



Q: According to one survey, one of the fastest growing job markets in the U.S. is not in technology or health care. What is it in Question



Q: 37% of us decide on the spot, 25% of us think about this days in advance, and 37% decide the day of. What are we so impulsive about Question
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paulaj
 
  1  
Reply Sun 6 Mar, 2005 08:47 am
Tryagain wrote:
Paula:
"Nowhere" can be "Now-here" if you want to look at it that way, and I did.

Now, that's what I call lateral thinking.

Merriam Webster

Main Entry: 1lat·er·al

Pronunciation: 'la-t&-r&l also 'la-tr&l

Function: adjective

Etymology: Middle English laterale, from Latin lateralis, from later-, latus side
1 : of or relating to the side
2 : situated on, directed toward, or coming from the side
3 : extending from side to side <lateral axis of an airplane>
4 : produced with passage of breath around the side of a constriction formed with the tongue <\l\ is lateral>
- lat·er·al·ly adverb

I was under the impression that my thinking was vertical. If my thinking was lateral, as stated above, I might have come up with this-

Nowhere = Whore'ne


Sorry for the mini derailing, I just didn't want to confuse the issues with facts...and boy, do I have issues.

p.s. Good morning world.
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Liessa
 
  1  
Reply Sun 6 Mar, 2005 09:59 am
Surveys, don't you just hate them?

Q: According to surveys, men are THREE TIMES more likely to be afraid of one of these. What are they more likely than women to be afraid of ?

Women... Very Happy

Q: 37% of us decide on the spot, 25% of us think about this days in advance, and 37% decide the day of. What are we so impulsive about?

birthday present?
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paulaj
 
  1  
Reply Sun 6 Mar, 2005 07:00 pm
What about the other 1% you left out?
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markr
 
  1  
Reply Sun 6 Mar, 2005 07:41 pm
Try wrote:
Quote:
What is your opinion on:
Let Z=\sqrt{2}\sqrt{2} and Y=\sqrt{2}.
If Z is irrational, then X=Z, and XY = [\sqrt{2}\sqrt{2}]\sqrt{2}=2 is rational, or If Z is rational, then X=Y, and XY is Z, so is rational.

I don't understand your notation: \sqrt{2}

PANCAKES
This is similar to figuring out the minimum number of moves between two states of Rubik's Cube.

Assuming N>1:

max: 2N-3
g(2) = 1
for N>2, g(N) <= g(N-1) + 2
If N is not on the top or bottom, flip N to the top, flip the whole stack, solve for N-1.

min: X such that (N-1)*[1 + (N-2) + (N-2)^2 + ... + (N-2)^(X-1)] >= N!-1
This is the maximum number of moves it takes to get from one state to any other state assuming every move yields a new state (no duplicates).
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Mon 7 Mar, 2005 06:32 am
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paulaj
 
  1  
Reply Mon 7 Mar, 2005 08:25 am
Tryagain wrote:
37+25+37=99 I have passed your concerns to the IRS. Laughing
Now what's all this about?,
"produced with passage of breath around the side of a constriction formed with the tongue" Drunk

That, is a definition straight out of Merriam Webster. Are you familiar with it?

Thank you for passing my concerns to the IRS, I'm sure they were thrilled, I know I am. Laughing
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markr
 
  1  
Reply Mon 7 Mar, 2005 10:23 am
SURVEY
1) Male bashing
2) ?
3) Stress

CAKE
If you can't solve that, try an easier case: what if the cake is circular? :wink:
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Tryagain
 
  1  
Reply Mon 7 Mar, 2005 03:53 pm
Paul aj Laughing asks, "Are you familiar with it?"

I try to be courteous, but familiar, never! I hate IT. :wink:



Mark:
CAKE
If you can't solve that, try an easier case: what if the cake is circular?

Sir, you ask the impossible! Laughing

For the square cake, the answer involves cutting wedges to the center of the cake. The area of each triangle is given as one half times the base times the height. They all have the same height (one half the length of the side), so as long as you make the bases equal, the areas will be equal too. But having the bases equal also implies that the frosting along the sides of the cake will be distributed equally. So both the cake and the frosting are shared fairly.

In the 6x12 cake, our center line starts 4 inches from the left-hand edge of the cake and ends 4 inches from the right-hand edge. In general, in an HxL cake, the line starts at distance HL/(H+L) from the left-hand side, and ends the same distance from the right-hand side, so that it has length L(L-H)/(H+L).

We have two types of pieces: triangular pieces, with base on the left-hand side of the cake and apex at the left endpoint of the center line (or base on the right-hand side and apex at the right endpoint of the center line), and trapezoidal pieces, with one base on the bottom or top of the cake and the other base taking a portion of the center line, the length of that portion being proportional to the length of the base.

Then allocate 1/N of the perimeter of the cake to each person. (One person might get part of a triangle and part of a trapezoid, but that's okay.) We only need to show that the ratio of (area of the cake piece) to (length along the perimeter of the whole cake) is a constant, because then each person will get 1/N of the area (thus 1/N of the cake and 1/N of the top frosting) as well as 1/N of the perimeter (and thus 1/N of the side frosting). One can see that this ratio is constant for all the triangles, and constant for all the trapezoids, and the choice of distances ensures that the two ratios are equal.

To see this, the whole cake has area LH and perimeter 2(L+H), So its area:perimeter ratio is LH/(2(L+H)). The left triangle has area (1/2)(H)(LH/(L+H)) and occupies H of the perimeter of the big cake, so that is ratio is also LH/(2(L+H)).

A second solution was provided by ZhenChao Wu, a Grad Student in Computer Science from Northeastern University. Start by drawing a diagonal from the upper-left corner to the lower-right corner. Draw a 45-degree line from the lower-left corner, which intersects the diagonal in a point A,and another 45-degree line from the upper-right corner, which intersects the diagonal at B. The point A is equidistant from the left side and the bottom (in fact distance LH/(L+H)), and the point B is the same distance from the right side and bottom. Now cut triangles, with bases on the left side or bottom and apex at A, or with bases on the right side or top and apex at B. Allocate 1/N of the perimeter to each person, and argue as before that the ratios area:perimeter are constant, so that each person also gets 1/N of the area. The nice thing is that the whole argument proceeds without any calculation this time.



Surveys
Q: According to experts, this is the FASTEST growing pastime for women. What?
Mark: Male bashing Laughing

s : Playing Poker Shocked



Q: According to a survey, 13% of Americans say their boss most resembles this TV actor. Who?

s : Michael Douglas: Andrew Sheppard in the movie The American President Rolling Eyes



Q: A staggering 25% of women and 20% of men believe this makes you lose your hair and it's just not true. What? (To assist Paula, the remaining 55% did not know)

Mark: Stress Laughing

s : Wearing a ball cap Embarrassed



Surveys, don't you just hate them?

Q: We all feel stressed out sometimes. New research has found a way to mellow our instantly. To stop stress cold, just do this. What Question



Q: The numbers are in, and 3% of women sent flowers to this special person in their life on Valentines day. Who Question



Q: 49% of all moms do this right before they punish or reprimand their child. What Question



As you leave your house in the morning, you can feel the portent of snow in the air. The weather report on the radio confirms your suspicions.

Sure enough, the snow begins to fall before noon-time, and falls at a constant rate. The city sends out its first snow plow at noon which begins removing snow at a constant rate (in cubic feet per minute.) At 1 P.M. it has gone 2 miles. At 2 P.M. it has gone 3 miles, and is still not retracing its path.

At what time did it start to snow Question
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Liessa
 
  1  
Reply Mon 7 Mar, 2005 04:40 pm
Q: We all feel stressed out sometimes. New research has found a way to mellow our instantly. To stop stress cold, just do this. What?

sex?

Q: The numbers are in, and 3% of women sent flowers to this special person in their life on Valentines day. Who?

Their mom?

Q: 49% of all moms do this right before they punish or reprimand their child. What?

Say "this hurts me more then it hurts you..."
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markr
 
  1  
Reply Mon 7 Mar, 2005 11:41 pm
SURVEY
Get drunk.

3% seems low for their moms. How about their extramarital lover?

Count to 10.

SNOW PLOW
rerun or I've done it elsewhere
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Tryagain
 
  1  
Reply Tue 8 Mar, 2005 06:42 am
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markr
 
  1  
Reply Tue 8 Mar, 2005 09:55 am
SURVEYS
Their boss

Watch TV

Watch TV

GRASS
rerun or done elsewhere
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Tue 8 Mar, 2005 12:12 pm
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markr
 
  1  
Reply Wed 9 Mar, 2005 01:21 am
BOWLING
Ignoring reflections, there are two solutions:
Code: 0 0
2 8 2 8
7 5 3 7 5 3
1 6 9 4 6 1 4 9

DIVISION
Code: 853
______
749/638897
5992
----
3969
3745
----
2247
2247
----
0000
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Tryagain
 
  1  
Reply Wed 9 Mar, 2005 05:04 am
SURVEYS

Q: 38% of American workers said this is the number one frustration at work. What?

Mark:
Their boss Laughing


s : Co-workers who come in sick




Q: According to a survey by Sealy mattresses, 67% of Americans do this in bed. What?

Watch TV Shocked


s : Cuddle with their pets Shocked




Q: Given a choice of 55 activities, 46% of men said they would spend their time with an evening of passion. It was the number one answer for men. However, the number one answer for women at 38% was this. What?

Watch TV Shocked


s : A good book Shocked Shocked



Not fair. No posting after midnight. You need your sleep, or a good book. Laughing


Mark:
BOWLING Cool Cool
Ignoring reflections, there are two solutions:

.....0................0
....2 8.............2 8
...7 5 3..........7 5 3
..1 6 9 4.......6 1 4 9



If the four back pins are labeled A,B,C,D, then we have:



A B C D A+B B+C C+D A+2B+C B+2C+D A+3B+3C+D

(reduced mod 10). Since the labels are (in some order) the integers 0 through 9, their sum is 45 (mod 10). So we get an equation: 4A + 9B + 9C + 4D = 5(mod 10) The pin labeled 0 must be in front, since otherwise it would cause equal labels to be assigned to the pin to its side and the one in front of and between them. So we have a second equation: A + 3B + 3C + D = 0(mod 10) Combining, we find D = 5-A (mod 10) C = 5-B (mod 10). So our setup is

A B 5-B 5-A A+B 5 -A-B A+B+5 5-A-B 0

with everything being considered mod 10. The opponent just bowled another strike. We'd better hurry up. Now A is neither 0 nor 5, so -A is not equal to A. Where can the pin labeled -A go? Not in the first row (the lone pin there is already labeled 0). Not in the second row, since the two pins there add to 0 (or 10), so if one was -A the other would be A. Not in the third row, because having (-A) next to (5) would cause the pin in front of them to be labeled (5-A), duplicating one in the back row. So the (-A) goes in the back row: either B=-A or 5-B=-A. Now, if B=-A then the left-hand pin of the third row is 0, duplicating the head pin. The only possibility is that 5-B=-A, which means B=5+A, so that the setup is:

A 5+A -A -5-A 5+2A 5 5-2A 2A -2A 0

Furthermore this will work with any A except 5 or 0 (which would duplicate an existing label).
For example with A=4 we get the same answer as Mark.

4 9 6 1 3 5 7 8 2 0



Mark:

DIVISION Cool Cool Cool Cool
853
______
749/638897
5992
----
3969
3745
----
2247
2247
----
0000






There is a whole number n for which the following holds: if you put a 4 at the end of n, and multiply the number you get in that way by 4, the result is equal to the number you get if you put a 4 in front of n. In other words, we are looking for the number you can put on the dots in the following equation:

4... = 4 × ...4


If there is a 6 in the equation instead of a 4 (6... = 6 × ...6) which number must you then put on the dots to get a correct equation Question




Surveys, don't you just hate them?



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Liessa
 
  1  
Reply Wed 9 Mar, 2005 07:21 am
MULTIPLICATION:

4... = 4 x ...4

I know the last digit of n must be 6 (cause 4x4=6), and the first must be 1 (to get a number in the 4000s after multiplying). So I got to:

41.6 = 4 x 1.64

Now 4 x 64 = 256, so the last two digits in in N must be 56. But then I get a number over 1500, and that's too much, cause x4 thats over 6000

So, giving up...

6... = 6 x ...6

the last digit must be 6, and the first must be 1.
you get 61.6 = 6 x 1.66

But same problem as with 4, so I give up again...
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