There are many interesting points raised in this thread. I believe that what is determined to be legal versus illegal is dependent on time and place to a greater degree than whether it is intrinsically right or wrong. Some cases to consider-in Nazi Germany it was legal to gas and burn innocent people. If you tried to help one of those people you would in turn be executed yourself. In the past burning witches at the stake was legal. Gambling was illegal in the US for many years, now state governments run lotteries. Alcohol was prohibited in the US, now it is not. Driving a car without seat belts was accepted for years, now it is not. Although food may not become outlawed (don't laugh you may forced to take vitamins or protein drinks instead) I have little doubt that soon it will be illegal in some form to be obese, probably with penalties resulting for the obese person. In essence, what is legal versus illegal largely depends upon the moral standards of the governments and people of any particular time period to a greater degree than whether it is right or wrong behavior, or even whether it is behavior that harms others (if you look at some of the examples above). The same applies to possession and uses of drugs-legal in some places or time periods, illegal in others, and prostitution, etc. etc. Because something is legal does not mean that it is ethically justified and conversely just because something is illegal does not necessarily mean it is ethically unjustified.
@seashell,
I dislike the term "evil", I would rather opt for inadequate instead....nevertheless how come to gas
innocent people its not intrinsically evil...by definition it is ! Whether its legal or not is an entirely different matter...
just so that YOU know , ALL of you
BEFORE we came along , to make any judgement , no drug was illegal
@north,
If we didn't make judgement on things, rape, murder, theft etc would not be illegal.
@vikorr,
vikorr wrote:
If we didn't make judgement on things, rape, murder, theft etc would not be illegal.
what has this got to do with drugs..?
@north,
north wrote:just so that YOU know , ALL of you
BEFORE we came along , to make any judgement , no drug was illegal
vikorr wrote:If we didn't make judgement on things, rape, murder, theft etc would not be illegal.
north wrote:what has this got to do with drugs..?
Technically nothing. It is a comment on your observation about humans making judgement.
@vikorr,
vikorr wrote:
north wrote:just so that YOU know , ALL of you
BEFORE we came along , to make any judgement , no drug was illegal
vikorr wrote:If we didn't make judgement on things, rape, murder, theft etc would not be illegal.
north wrote:what has this got to do with drugs..?
Technically nothing. It is a comment on your observation about humans making judgement.
and therefore .... vikorr
@north,
I'll assume you are asking a question, otherwise your post wouldn't make sense.
Your post appears to say the
existance of human judgement is responsible for making drugs illegal (there are a few oddities about that post, but I did try to pick the main line of thought). My post was a comment on the necessity of the existance of human judgement. Of course, I may have missed the point of what you were trying to say.
@vikorr,
vikorr wrote:
I'll assume you are asking a question, otherwise your post wouldn't make sense.
Your post appears to say the existance of human judgement is responsible for making drugs illegal (there are a few oddities about that post, but I did try to pick the main line of thought). My post was a comment on the necessity of the existance of human judgement. Of course, I may have missed the point of what you were trying to say.
the ONLY point was what you were trying to say , thats all
@north,
It was an strange thing to point out. It read rather like saying 'human judgement' is responsible for humans judging a thing to be bad, and in need of banning' (ie made illegal). The use of capitals by you made it stranger still.
@vikorr,
vikorr wrote:
It was an strange thing to point out. It read rather like saying 'human judgement' is responsible for humans judging a thing to be bad, and in need of banning' (ie made illegal)
what was ? , give the FULL context please ( just copy , then paste )
@north,
I did, 5 or 6 posts ago - your original post that started this particular thread of conversation
@north,
I already have quoted the context in full. There's no point doing double posts. I even gave you a reference to it. It's up to you whether you want to go back and read or not.