Do you remember English 101?

@plainoldme,

In the meantime, I'm still interested in your thread.

I still don't know what s + w means, Jtt.

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@ossobuco,

Strunk and White

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@plainoldme,

Ah, thanks. Well, I still have an old copy.

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To circle back to the original question, how about Bernard Rosenberg and David Manning White, "Mass Culture" (New York: Free Press, 1957), which they seem to have revised and reworked later as "Mass Culture Revisited" (See also "Popular Culture", in Wikipedia)

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@ossobuco,

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Ah, thanks. Well, I still have an old copy.

That'll work in case you ever run short of TP, Osso.

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@JTT,

I'm renegade, first dissed for having bad diction.
That's my way. S & W wasn't my beginning bible, but some probably ordinary catholic school girls' grammar. Well, hey, that got me past some tests.
I like fooling with words. That gets worse if I have had some wine.

I've not much advice but that people read adventurously.

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@ossobuco,

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but some probably ordinary catholic school girls' grammar.

Many a nun passed out errant but firm prescriptions, reinforced by her ruler.

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@JTT,

Well, that was to the boys, and back in grammar school.

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@MontereyJack,

I can't believe it . . . that may be exactly what I have been looking for for years. I have actually wanted to thumb through it . . . not read it, mind you as re-reading it would bring back painful memories.

Thank you, so much! Very Happy

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@ossobuco,

I once told a nun that she could "swat" me, her word for physical punishment rather than yell at me because I could not stand the sound of her voice. She swatted me once with the broom in front of the entire class and never disciplined me again. It was worth it. That was in fifth grade.

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@plainoldme,

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Every developmental text book has a unit on teaching the fact that the object of preposition is never the subject of a sentence. I laughed. No one thinks the object of a preposition is the subject of a sentence, I thought.

Is this,

Mom, me and Henry are going to the store

an example of your complaint, Pom?

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@JTT,

My ex-husband would have said you have a "hair across your ass" about grammar. You continually raze me about it.

I have to tell you one thing. This:

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Is this,

Mom, me and Henry are going to the store

an example of your complaint, Pom?

is not answerable.

Why don't you try telling me what you think the subject of the sentence is.

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@plainoldme,

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My ex-husband would have said you have a "hair across your ass" about grammar. You continually raze me about it.

'razz' me, Pom. I'm not much interested in what your ex thinks or would have said about anything, unless he posts here. Is he Mop? Smile

All I asked was,

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Is this,

Mom, me and Henry are going to the store

an example of your contention that "the object of preposition is never the subject of a sentence"?

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@plainoldme,

Do you remember her name? I think mine was Sr. Mary Rita..

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@JTT,

That question can not be answered. Which part of, "Mom, me and Henry are going to the store," am I supposed to address?

Frankly, in posting that particular sentence, you were telling me which word you think is the subject. It is not the correct one.

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@ossobuco,

She was Sister Selma. She was called out of retirement to teach. By the middle of the year, my classmates were saying, "They told us we were getting a retired nun. They made a mistake. They meant to say we were getting a retarded nun." She used to call us "zulu dingos" and "crazy smart."

We were fortunate to have had Sister Thomasine three times: for 3rd, 6th and 8th grade. She was one of two sane nuns I had during my elementary school career. The other was my second grade teacher. My second and fourth grade teachers had similar names: Sister Arelia and Sister Arelianna. I know longer remember which was which. The fourth grade teacher was very bland. Her personality was subdued.

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@plainoldme,

Memories.. thanks, kid, as they say. Plus I'll be back to talk about
Sister Philippa.

I'll skitter back to 101 as you wish - happen to be enjoying this.

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@ossobuco,

Ah, Sister Selma. Its a good thing that Selma isn't a common name. Were I to come across more Selmas, the experience of meeting all those Selmas might be traumatic.

Gorgeous actress Selma HAyek is nothing like Sister Selma.

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@plainoldme,

No I'm a high school freshman that took English 1 first semester.

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@plainoldme,

plainoldme wrote:

That question can not be answered. Which part of, "Mom, me and Henry are going to the store," am I supposed to address?

Frankly, in posting that particular sentence, you were telling me which word you think is the subject. It is not the correct one.

If I didn't know any better I'd think you were suggesting that JTT is actually wrong about something.

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