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Olbermann Suspended From MSNBC for Campaign Donations

 
 
Irishk
 
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Reply Mon 8 Nov, 2010 02:28 pm
@georgeob1,
Open Secrets reports that MSNBC was going to replace Olbermann with Chris Hayes ... until they discovered that he'd also made a political contribution.
dyslexia
 
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Reply Mon 8 Nov, 2010 02:31 pm
@Irishk,
my next door neighbor, the plumber, told me that he heard that Fox News was going to hire Olbermann to replace Glenn Beck.
georgeob1
 
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Reply Mon 8 Nov, 2010 02:57 pm
@dyslexia,
I think that would be a bad trade. Beck's sophistry is far more effective in advancing his agenda than is Oberman's juvenile mockery in advancing his. Both involve simplistic distortions of reality, tiresome diatribes about supposed "enemies", and harmful (in my view) political perspectives. However, Beck is by far the more effective of the two.
Irishk
 
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Reply Mon 8 Nov, 2010 03:03 pm
Olbermann has already had a stint at Fox...I think in the sports dept.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Mon 8 Nov, 2010 03:38 pm
@georgeob1,
Olbermann is cheaper. The issue is profit, not politics.
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 8 Nov, 2010 03:48 pm
@georgeob1,
Quote:
simplistic distortions of reality


While it doesn't appear at the bottom of your posts, Gob, your posts scream, "This is my signature line!".
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firefly
 
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Reply Mon 8 Nov, 2010 08:09 pm
Quote:

A STATEMENT TO THE VIEWERS OF COUNTDOWN
by Keith Olbermann

I want to sincerely thank you for the honor of your extraordinary and ground-rattling support. Your efforts have been integral to the remedying of these recent events, and the results should remind us of the power of individuals spontaneously acting together to correct injustices great or small. I would also like to acknowledge with respect the many commentators and reporters, including those with whom my politics do not overlap, for their support.

I also wish to apologize to you viewers for having precipitated such anxiety and unnecessary drama. You should know that I mistakenly violated an inconsistently applied rule – which I previously knew nothing about – that pertains to the process by which such political contributions are approved by NBC. Certainly this mistake merited a form of public acknowledgment and/or internal warning, and an on-air discussion about the merits of limitations on such campaign contributions by all employees of news organizations. Instead, after my representative was assured that no suspension was contemplated, I was suspended without a hearing, and learned of that suspension through the media.

You should also know that I did not attempt to keep any of these political contributions secret; I knew they would be known to you and the rest of the public. I did not make them through a relative, friend, corporation, PAC, or any other intermediary, and I did not blame them on some kind of convenient 'mistake' by their recipients. When a website contacted NBC about one of the donations, I immediately volunteered that there were in fact three of them; and contrary to much of the subsequent reporting, I immediately volunteered to explain all this, on-air and off, in the fashion MSNBC desired.

I genuinely look forward to rejoining you on Countdown on Tuesday, to begin the repayment of your latest display of support and loyalty - support and loyalty that is truly mutual.
--K.O.
http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/08/olbermann-apologizes-to-viewers-but-not-to-msnbc/?partner=rss&emc=rss


Well, his battle with MSNBC sounds far from over.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 06:05 pm
Olberman makes $7 million a year and raves and rants against rich fat cats.

But then, I'm sure he donates 99% of his salary to charity.

His career depends on outrage, and drama. It will never be over for him.

I wouldn't mind it if he, Maddow, Matthews, O'Reilly, Hannity, and Beck all took very long vacations.

Stewart is a bit disingenuous if he thinks he rides in the middle lane, but he's on to something if he has Olberman criticizing him.
dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 06:11 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
Stewart is a bit disingenuous
that's funny, I've never seen Stewart wearing a Stetson or portraying Gabby Hayes.
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JPB
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 06:11 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Stewart earns a good(!!!) living off of political pundits. He said it himself last night... drawing comparisons between comedians/political pundits and political pundits/comedians. The guy's a comedic genius! How many people get their hard news from Jon Stewart?

<... half raises a hand...>
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2010 04:03 pm
@JPB,
JPB wrote:

Stewart earns a good(!!!) living off of political pundits. He said it himself last night... drawing comparisons between comedians/political pundits and political pundits/comedians. The guy's a comedic genius! How many people get their hard news from Jon Stewart?

<... half raises a hand...>


I'm sure he makes a whole lot of money and I've no problem with that.

I don't agree that he's a comedic genius, but he can be funny (when he doesn't take himself too seriously).

My sense is that he believes he's walking right down the middle of the political road. I think he's smart enough to know that acutally he is not, but then I know plenty of smart liberals who think Obama and themselves are moderates.
dyslexia
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2010 05:05 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn it is possible that Obama will move far enough to the left to be a moderate. I doubt it but it's possible.
roger
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2010 05:11 pm
@dyslexia,
Any farther to the left, he falls off the edge of the world.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2010 05:12 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:

My sense is that he believes he's walking right down the middle of the political road. I think he's smart enough to know that acutally he is not, but then I know plenty of smart liberals who think Obama and themselves are moderates.


Obama is a moderate. Here's Andrew Sullivan on it:

Quote:
It seems to me that the last year or so in America's political culture has represented the triumph of untruth. And the untruth was propagated by a deliberate, simple and systemic campaign to kill Obama's presidency in its crib. Emergency measures in a near-unprecedented economic collapse - the bank bailout, the auto-bailout, the stimulus - were described by the right as ideological moves of choice, when they were, in fact, pragmatic moves of necessity. The increasingly effective isolation of Iran's regime - and destruction of its legitimacy from within - was portrayed as a function of Obama's weakness, rather than his strength. The health insurance reform -- almost identical to Romney's, to the right of the Clintons in 1993, costed to reduce the deficit, without a public option, and with millions more customers for the insurance and drug companies -- was turned into a socialist government take-over.

Every one of these moves could be criticized in many ways. What cannot be done honestly, in my view, is to create a narrative from all of them to describe Obama as an anti-American hyper-leftist, spending the US into oblivion. But since this seems to be the only shred of thinking left on the right (exacerbated by the justified flight of the educated classes from a party that is now openly contemptuous of learning), it became a familiar refrain -- pummeled into our heads day and night by talk radio and Fox. If you think I'm exaggerating, try the following thought experiment.

If a black Republican president had come in, helped turn around the banking and auto industries (at a small profit!), insured millions through the private sector while cutting Medicare, overseen a sharp decline in illegal immigration, ramped up the war in Afghanistan, reinstituted pay-as-you go in the Congress, set up a debt commission to offer hard choices for future debt reduction, and seen private sector job growth outstrip the public sector's in a slow but dogged recovery, somehow I don't think that Republican would be regarded as a socialist.

This is the era of the Big Lie, in other words, and it translates into a lot of little lies -- "death panels," "out-of-control" spending, "apologies for America" etc. -- designed to concoct a false narrative so simple and so familiar it actually succeeded in getting into people's minds in the midst of a brutal recession.


I don't think you even know what a 'moderate' would be. What exactly do you envision as a moderate?

Cycloptichorn
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2010 05:12 pm
@roger,
roger wrote:

Any farther to the left, he falls off the edge of the world.


Ridiculous comment. One must assume you're being sarcastic.

Cycloptichorn
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2010 05:20 pm
@dyslexia,
No, I guess you're correct Dys. Even a life-altering, ideological shift to the Left would only leave him just shy of Irving Kristol.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2010 05:38 pm
I think of Fox news as a phenomenon to be described later, and figure msnbc has joined in the fun.

I gather people with some brains will be looking elsewhere and making their own summations.

Is this all too bad? I don't know.
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