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Reply Sat 25 Sep, 2010 11:41 am
Do people only get framed in TV crime shows, or does it happen in the daily life of ordinary people? Is it often successful or rarely successful? What do people get framed for and by whom?
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talk72000
 
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Reply Sat 25 Sep, 2010 11:47 am
@Brandon9000,
Obama is being framed by the Republicans (in the media and Congress) for the economic mess they created.
Brandon9000
 
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Reply Sat 25 Sep, 2010 11:48 am
@talk72000,
talk72000 wrote:

Obama is being framed by the Republicans (in the media and Congress) for the economic mess they created.

Yes, politics is an area in which people get framed constantly.

It's unfortunate that someone chose to add the tag "TV" to this thread, because I meant it to be about the real world.
talk72000
 
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Reply Sat 25 Sep, 2010 11:52 am
@Brandon9000,
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Do people only get framed in TV crime shows
Wink
Brandon9000
 
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Reply Sat 25 Sep, 2010 11:52 am
@talk72000,
talk72000 wrote:

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Do people only get framed in TV crime shows
Wink

Yes, but the subject is supposed to be about it happening to ordinary people.
talk72000
 
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Reply Sat 25 Sep, 2010 11:58 am
@Brandon9000,
Ordinary people end up being murdered but then it covered in another section-crime. If it was trickery then they are too embarrassed to talk about it. Many things are not reported. There was a department store where there were weekly break-ins but there was nary a word about them. Rolling Eyes 2 Cents
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djjd62
 
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Reply Sat 25 Sep, 2010 12:07 pm
@Brandon9000,
i'm sure it happens in the corporate world often enough
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Sat 25 Sep, 2010 01:26 pm
@Brandon9000,
Let me give a few examples.

1. A couple of people on A2K might frame a member with opposite political views for some sort of wrongdoing on the site which would get him banned.
2. A supervisor at work might frame a worker for making bad decisions or incompetence.
3. Let's say guy A liked a girl but she was seeing guy B. A might frame B for having said something bad about her behind her back or done something bad, so that she would reject B which would leave the field free for A to come in and comfort her.

That kind of thing.
dyslexia
 
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Reply Sat 25 Sep, 2010 01:29 pm
@Brandon9000,
maybe a cop "finds" a reefer in the pocket of some brown/black skinned man he pulled over for running a stop sign.
Brandon9000
 
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Reply Sat 25 Sep, 2010 01:44 pm
@dyslexia,
Yes, that's certainly a frame. I want to emphasize, though, that I am not only asking about the law, but also about things that happen in daily life.
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contrex
 
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Reply Sat 25 Sep, 2010 02:14 pm
There has recently been a court case in the UK where a deputy school caretaker planted child pornography on his boss's work computer to get him fired so he (the deputy) could get his job. He put some other porn onto a CD and sent it pseudonymously to the police, accusing his boss, Mark Thompson, who was arrested and suspended from his job. He had his life ruined and had to move house. He was attacked in the street. His accuser has now got a 12 year jail sentence for perverting the course of justice and 5 years for possession of child pornography.

The judge told him: “You will go to prison for a long time. The prison population is not renowned for being particularly fair or reasonable.

“You will be suspected by many of being a paedophile and, like Mr Thompson, you may find that you suffer, both in prison and on release, for the rest of your life.

“All these consequences will last for life and the irony is that you have brought them upon yourself by your own deliberate conduct.”

Mr Thompson, who sat in the court to watch Weiner being sentenced, admitted he was shocked by the length of sentence, but said: "I think he has got what he richly deserved. Because of him it could have been me in that dock for something I didn't do."

http://news.google.com/news/more?pz=1&cf=all&cf=all&ncl=dVYEb5cxC7NlufMCdlyKxqnXW48uM
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sat 25 Sep, 2010 02:25 pm
@Brandon9000,
John Grisham wrote a non-fiction book called an Innocent Man. It was pretty interesting. It was about a man who was framed for murder.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Sat 25 Sep, 2010 02:32 pm
What about the subtle frames which never reach the level of accusations of crimes?
failures art
 
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Reply Tue 28 Sep, 2010 03:10 am
I think it is not as common as TV portrays. We do see cases of it. A guilty rapist might leave evidence in the trash of a house then leave an anonymous tip to the cops to send them down the wrong trail.

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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 28 Sep, 2010 03:28 am
@Brandon9000,
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What about the subtle frames which never reach the level of accusations of crimes?


How do you expect something like that to have ever reached the attention of the public? Were you expecting people to recount their true life stories? Apart from being of dubious reliability if someone were to retail such an account, it is unlikely that people would wish to air their dirty laundry in a public forum.
Brandon9000
 
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Reply Tue 28 Sep, 2010 07:02 pm
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

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What about the subtle frames which never reach the level of accusations of crimes?


How do you expect something like that to have ever reached the attention of the public? Were you expecting people to recount their true life stories? Apart from being of dubious reliability if someone were to retail such an account, it is unlikely that people would wish to air their dirty laundry in a public forum.

True. Being accused of something one didn't do would be very painful, especially if the frame worked. I am just wondering how often it occurs in ordinary life, as opposed to the melodramatic cases in fiction.

I once knew a woman who had been fired from KMart as a teenager for stealing money. She told me about it voluntarily and said she didn't do it, and I believe her. That wasn't a frame, though, just a false accusation.
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juan suarez
 
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Reply Sun 4 Nov, 2012 03:29 pm
@Brandon9000,
i have been framed. my wife is extorting me.... she has informed me that i will be extradited to ukraine for rape charges. as well as be sent down in uk for paedophilia. She has taken some of my clothes and is claiming someone has been impursanating me to seduce children. I have not yet been framed or charged and am unsure if it is extortion or truth. she wants a green card....
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