Zetherin wrote: Chumly wrote: Jebediah wrote: Chumly wrote: Zetherin wrote: Chumly wrote:
Astrology is valid in the same sense that alchemy is valid, they are both predecessors to modern hard science; perhaps most notably astronomy and chemistry.
What? There's nothing valid about astrology or alchemy. In the same sense they are both invalid
is probably what you meant (but usually people don't talk that way).
Nope I meant what I said. At-the-very-least google the history of science as it relates to astrology and alchemy before further demonstrating your state of being uninformed.
Do you think astrology is justifiably grounded in truth? Because otherwise you are saying something very strange, something like "clouds are green in the same sense that the sky is green". Something can't be valid in the sense that it isn't valid.
The fact that you would ask if I think astrology is justifiably grounded in truth demonstrates your inability to understand basic argumentation as per logical fallacies, let alone your ignorance of the history of science and the meaning of the word valid in the context I have referenced.
All you meant is that there is history between alchemy and astrology and modern sciences, and that's true. People misunderstood you. No need to start bringing up this logical fallacy nonsense.
Nope, I meant what I said, not what you claim I said. The fact that you appear ignorant about the history of science as to astrology and alchemy is your burden not mine. Your specious claim as per "People misunderstood you" (sic) is a further example of your ignorance as per logical fallacies and the basics of argumentation, again your burden not mine.
The fact that you claim "There's nothing valid about astrology or alchemy" when they are (arguably in part) the birthplace of modern astronomy and modern chemistry again shows your ignorance especially in light of the fact that both astrology and alchemy are (in part) based on empiricism and are (in part) predictive; two of the essential components of modern hard science.
I am rather convinced at this point that your ignorance goes so far as to lack an understanding of the validity of astrology as it relates to early farming practices and of the validity of alchemy as it relates to early metallurgy.
However I note with some humor that you now claim validly as to the historical integration between alchemy and astrology and modern sciences however you still fail to see the deeper continuity and methodologies as discussed.
I also amuses me that you take the time to argue with me but do not take the time to learn...Wiki is your friend likely more than I am.