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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2003 12:07 pm
LONDON, England (Reuters) -- A comment last year by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld on the hunt for Iraq's weapons of mass destruction was awarded the "Foot in Mouth" prize Monday by Britain's Plain English Campaign.

Rumsfeld, renowned for his uncompromising tough talking, received the prize for the most baffling comment by a public figure.
"Reports that say something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know," Rumsfeld told a news briefing.
"We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns -- the ones we don't know we don't know."
John Lister, spokesman for the campaign, which strives to have public information delivered in clear, straightforward English, said: "We think we know what he means. But we don't know if we really know."
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2003 12:24 pm
That was part of EST -- Werner Erhard's seminars in the seventies and eighties.

All knowledge is separated into what we know, what we know we don't know, and that which we don't know that we don't know -- the largest segment of information.

For example, I know that I don't know anything about how to perform brain surgery.

Data contained within "don't know/don't know" instantly moves into "know/don't know" upon realization of that fact.

Also commonly called a "wow" moment.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2003 12:32 pm
Does someone coach Rumsfeld in this stuff or does he come up with it all by himself?
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2003 12:37 pm
I have a hard time believing that Rummy did EST.

Maybe someone he knew tried to recruit him or something...
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MichaelAllen
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2003 03:24 pm
Just plain funny. I don't that I don't know. But, you'd think I'd know that.
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au1929
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2003 05:22 pm
It appears as if he is taking lessons from Bush or is it the other way around?
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Mr Stillwater
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2003 06:01 pm
Nope, Dubya's out there in his own league:

"This is a?-this is a?-any strike's a tough?-tough situation, but this one happens to come at a?-or a lockout is a tough situation, or no work is a tough situation?-is to come at bad time."

"I should have clarified it by my statement. I just clarified it by my?-not should have?-I just."

"I'm a patient man. And when I say I'm a patient man, I mean I'm a patient man."

"Redefining the role of the United States from enablers to keep the peace to enablers to keep the peace from peacekeepers is going to be an assignment."

"Drug therapies are replacing a lot of medicines as we used to know it."
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littlek
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2003 06:04 pm
good lord.
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Centroles
 
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Reply Tue 2 Dec, 2003 01:24 am
i lov bush, he's so entertaining
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