Barack Obama ? Muslim apostate?

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Stafford, Va. - Osama bin Laden must be chuckling in his safe house. After all, the 2008 campaign could very well give Al Qaeda the ultimate propaganda tool: President Barack Hussein Obama, Muslim apostate.

The fact that Senator Obama ? the son of a Muslim father ? insists he was never a Muslim before becoming Christian is irrelevant to bin Laden. In bin Laden's eyes, Obama is a murtad fitri, the worst type of apostate, because he was blessed by Allah to be born into the true faith of Islam.

There are two types of apostates according to sharia (Islamic law) and the Hadith (sayings of the prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him).

The first type is murtad milli, one who converted to Islam and later renounced the faith. The second, and most egregious, type is murtad fitri. It refers to a person born of a Muslim father who renounces his birthright. Two recent examples of the latter are Magdi Allam (a male Egyptian who converted to Catholicism in Italy) and Ayaan Hirsi Ali (Somali-born woman who's now an atheist). Both now face death threats.

Barack Obama ? Muslim apostate? | csmonitor.com

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@Musky Hunter,

"Osama Bin laden must be chuckling in his safe house"

We have been told for years its a cave ? who is telling lies ?

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@Musky Hunter,

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@Musky Hunter,

If I am understanding correctly, we are comparing the Christian Science Monitor with David Duke?

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@Musky Hunter,

Musky Hunter;62534 wrote:

The fact that Senator Obama ? the son of a Muslim father

Obama's grandfather was Muslim, not his father.

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@Fatal Freedoms,

Also AL Qaeda believes that blacks are inferior.

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@Fatal Freedoms,

Fatal_Freedoms;62550 wrote:

Obama's grandfather was Muslim, not his father.

"Obama's middle name is Hussein. His father and stepfather were Muslim. And he spent part of his childhood in Indonesia, a largely Muslim country. But he attended secular and Catholic schools, not a radical madrassa."

Obama sets record straight on religion - Barack Obama News- msnbc.com

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@Musky Hunter,

Musky Hunter;62552 wrote:

"Obama's middle name is Hussein. His father and stepfather were Muslim. And he spent part of his childhood in Indonesia, a largely Muslim country. But he attended secular and Catholic schools, not a radical madrassa."

Obama sets record straight on religion - Barack Obama News- msnbc.com

?Barack Obama has never been Muslim and never practiced Islam. But rumors about his religion intended to frighten some voters persist, and they mostly return to one point of fact: his name. ?Barack? is the candidate?s Kenyan father?s name; Obama?s middle name, ?Hussein,? is his grandfather?s name. Obama has described his father as atheist or agnostic. His Kansan mom, whose grandparents were devout Protestants, lived a secular life."

Fight the Smears: The Truth About Barack?s Faith

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@Fatal Freedoms,

Fatal_Freedoms;62553 wrote:

?Barack Obama has never been Muslim and never practiced Islam. But rumors about his religion intended to frighten some voters persist, and they mostly return to one point of fact: his name. ?Barack? is the candidate?s Kenyan father?s name; Obama?s middle name, ?Hussein,? is his grandfather?s name. Obama has described his father as atheist or agnostic. His Kansan mom, whose grandparents were devout Protestants, lived a secular life."

Fight the Smears: The Truth About Barack?s Faith

The report was from msnbc, not exactly an anti-Obama source.

Further, the point of the Christian Science Monitor article was not that either Obama or his father practiced the Muslim faith but rather how the Muslim world and particularly that part of the Muslim world that follows Sharia Law sees them.

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@Musky Hunter,

Musky, I understand your point completely. Am I the only one..?

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@Musky Hunter,

Musky Hunter;62559 wrote:

The report was from msnbc, not exactly an anti-Obama source.

Further, the point of the Christian Science Monitor article was not that either Obama or his father practiced the Muslim faith but rather how the Muslim world and particularly that part of the Muslim world that follows Sharia Law sees them.

Had this debate on here before,nothing new here,some radaical muslims think this,so what ! dont be losing any sleep over it :thumbup:

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@socalgolfguy,

socalgolfguy;62560 wrote:

Musky, I understand your point completely. Am I the only one..?

what exactly is it YOU understand ?

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@scooby-doo cv,

scooby-doo;62570 wrote:

what exactly is it YOU understand ?

His post was quite clear. Read it and you'll understand as well.

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@socalgolfguy,

socalgolfguy;62572 wrote:

His post was quite clear. Read it and you'll understand as well.

Listen i have read numerous stuff about Obama muslim connections,nothing new here.

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@scooby-doo cv,

scooby-doo;62573 wrote:

Listen i have read numerous stuff about Obama muslim connections,nothing new here.

He was not addressing any old issues. He was pointing out how the muslims view those of them that go against the faith...if you can call it that.

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@socalgolfguy,

socalgolfguy;62575 wrote:

He was not addressing any old issues. He was pointing out how the muslims view those of them that go against the faith...if you can call it that.

Not all muslims think the same way,yep Bin laden and others will think like this,nothing new here.

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@scooby-doo cv,

scooby-doo;62577 wrote:

Not all muslims think the same way,yep Bin laden and others will think like this,nothing new here.

Agreed, nothing new - but it was still a good read.

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@socalgolfguy,

socalgolfguy;62581 wrote:

Agreed, nothing new - but it was still a good read.

The asad thing is alot on americans actually believe Obama is a muslim,i watched plenty coverage of the election race,american and british tv and couldn't believe some of the stuff that people were coming away with,one of the best was on british tv when asking a man about Obama,he said "barack Hussein Obama,that is not an american name" What exactly is an American name ! George Bush,Sean Hannity,Bill O'reilly ?

The USA is an immigrant nation,the only people with real american names are the indigenous population,don't think iv'e heard of any Politicians called Sitting Bull.

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@Musky Hunter,

Musky Hunter;62559 wrote:

The report was from msnbc, not exactly an anti-Obama source.

Further, the point of the Christian Science Monitor article was not that either Obama or his father practiced the Muslim faith but rather how the Muslim world and particularly that part of the Muslim world that follows Sharia Law sees them.

Since when do we take the "Muslim perspective" as the de facto? To say Obama's father was a Muslim is disingenuous.

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@Fatal Freedoms,

Fatal_Freedoms;62593 wrote:

Since when do we take the "Muslim perspective" as the de facto? To say Obama's father was a Muslim is disingenuous.

I didn't say, insinuate or quote that Obama's father was a Muslim. Well... Maybe I quoted that from another site... I would have to check. Very Happy

The point is that the radical Muslims see him as having been Muslim, whether he was or he was not.

And the point is that their perception will affect how he is viewed within the Muslim world.

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