@Sabz5150,
Sabz5150;68783 wrote:You act if this is new news... new happenings. Detect the truth for me: when exactly did this round of deficit spending start? Methinks the detector starts blipping loudly when pointed at Bush. Remember the surplus he started with? Remember that it didn't last a year? I do.
Do you remember 9-11? The recession inherited at the beginning of Bush?s term? Do you remember a vastly Bi-Partisan congress sending our troops into Afghanistan and Iraq? Do you remember Hurricane Katrina?
I find it fascinating when a Librul who supports spending the US taxpayer into a $1.6 trillion deficit conveniently avoiding the FACTS to support an indefensible policy that is doing NOTHING to expand the economy and stop the job losses.
Of course you are the one, based on the thread topic, who prefers to demagogue and blather the forum with hyperbole and hypocrisy and I would be giving you too much credit to presume you could detect anything close to the ?truth.?
Another little FACT for Libruls like you who conveniently avoid the TRUTH; Democrats took over the Congress and Senate at the beginning of 2007 when the deficit was about $168 BILLION on a platform that they would be fiscally responsible, transparent and engage the other side in a new era of bipartisanship. Today, anyone with a modicum of intelligence can see that these were nothing but partisan lies, divisive hyperbole and merely demagogue their opponents and they never had any intent to be ?responsible? but rather push through a leftist agenda that the American voter would have never voted for had they been honest.
Sabz5150;68783 wrote:But that spending was okay I suppose. Lapel pins and yellow ribbons...
The spending in my opinion based on the FACTS was okay because you conveniently forget that we were fighting two wars, dealing with 9-11 and a major natural disaster in a major American (Democrat controlled) city that was severely unprepared thanks to their Librul leadership.
What I find amusing is when Libruls like you keep pointing to Bush?s $200 billion deficit spending for logical reasons as an excuse for your guys to borrow and spend the American taxpayer into a $1.6 trillion hole with not ONE honest debate about how to pay for it all.
I also remembered that for EIGHT years we had to watch the Librul media and Democrats whine and bemoan Bush giving taxpayers a break and claim that it was irresponsible and led to the loss of a surplus, thanks to a Republican Congress by the way, and deficits and how Bush should raise taxes.
Today we see Democrats since 2007 spending us into a $1.6 trillion deficit for purely partisan political pandering without one honest debate about how they will pay for it and whose taxes will be raised. But alas, we know the reason for that as well; they know that they will have to raise EVERYONE?s taxes and want to hold the debate until after the 2010 midterm elections also for purely partisan political purposes.
Sabz5150;68783 wrote:Also, detect this truth: When did the economy take a nosedive? Again, you will end up with the same results. Didn't Bush okay the TARP? Didn't he already allocate half of it? Didn't we see multiple triple digit drops under his watch? Thinking so!
Yes the stock market collapse thanks to mortgage backed sub-prime mortgages, which were the sacred cow Democrats protected in hearings on the matter in 2004 and 2005, and derivatives hit in the last quarter of 2008 under Bush?s watch with a Democrat controlled congress.
Yes Bush approved the TARP program which was an effort to prevent a collapse of our financial institutions; but your claims are begging for a point.
The notion that this justifies the reckless out of control spending we are seeing in this ?fiscally? responsible partisan Democrat congress requires a willful suspension of disbelief or, perhaps in your case, wallowing in denial.
Sabz5150;68783 wrote:The "Ownership Society" is what you called it. How's that working out for ya?
I find your trite na?ve notions about free markets laughable; the notion that becoming dependent wards of the State as being better for Americans than being independent can only be argued, again, in a vacuum of reality and the facts.
Democrats offer NOTHING to the American people other than ever expanding Government largess, ever expanding taxation and creating a society that is dependent on the Government from cradle to grave. You may want to read the Constitution and the writings of the founders and review the history that made this nation the most free, prosperous and strongest in the world.
The notion that a Government can spend its way to economic prosperity requires a level of willful denial that anyone with a modicum of intelligence should find impossible.
Sabz5150;68783 wrote:This talk is neat and all, but the real question is this: Why are you trying to deflect a known lie reported as fact with the intent to smear by talking about things that, strangely enough, the Democrats didn't whip up?
I find it fascinating that you think that a talk show host who was FOOLED is somehow a relevant defense for the incredible lies and distortions spewed by Democrats to gain political power. Do you really think what Rush Limbaugh says is relevant to the economic malaise we are in right now and the irresponsible nearly criminally negligent spending we are seeing from the current administration? REALLY?
The one doing all the deflecting here happens to be Libruls like you; just look at the farcical thread title for a clue.
Democrats with Obama at the lead claimed that if they spent almost $1 trillion on stimulus, unemployment would stay below 8%; that was a lie. They claimed that the stimulus program would stimulate demand and restart the economy; so far that was a lie.
Every month we have seen a loss of jobs in excess of 200,000 since this ?post turtle? took over with no end in sight. Every month mortgage foreclosures continue to rise due to the fact that many cannot find jobs that have lost them. Every month we are watching more businesses close shop and a wave of commercial foreclosures that may eclipse the housing foreclosure. Every day the National Debt is skyrocketing by over $1,000,000 with no end in sight and Democrats think we should spend even more.
You just cannot fabricate the level of stupidity that infests the Congress and White House these days and you want to whine about Rush Limbaugh? You?re kidding me right?
Sabz5150;68783 wrote:C'mon, you won't let a little "liburl" like me break your argument that easily, will ya?
The notion that you could stand toe to toe with me in any debate or argument requires the same willful suspension of disbelief you have thinking that the stupidity we are seeing in a Democrat led Government can be covered by complaining about a TALK SHOW host; again it begs the question, you?re kidding me right?
Carry on; your clown like attempts to pretend this is about Republicans are about as lame as your attempts to claim Rush is a relevant diversion from the irresponsible stupidity we are seeing from a Democrat led Congress and White House.
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