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Behold: The right-wing smear machine

 
 
Reply Sun 25 Oct, 2009 12:28 pm
The Obama ‘Thesis’ Hoax The Washington Independent

If you didn?t listen to Rush Limbaugh?s radio show today, you missed the news that an obscure blogger had gotten his hands on ten pages of Barack Obama?s college thesis, thanks to Joe Klein of Time magazine. Michael Ledeen had jumped on the news, publishing an excerpt that revealed how the president had ?doubts? about the ?so-called founders.? And Limbaugh ran with it.

The problem: It was a hoax, actually marked as a satire, as Klein blogged earlier today. Ledeen apologized.


And how did this person apologize?

[H]e got me, and lots of others. It worked because it?s plausible.

Plausible?! Please tell me, conservatives, what isn't plausible in reference to your smears and lies? Given the "death panels", "socialism" and such, the answer to that is not much at all.

But ho-lee SH!T when the hoax about Bush and the TANG hit... didn't that cost somebody their job. But it was so plausible...

Was it, conservatives? We all know those "fact" things never seem to slow you down.
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Truth Detector
 
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Reply Wed 4 Nov, 2009 02:40 am
@Sabz5150,
Right wing smear machine? REALLY?

I find it amusing when Libruls attempt to claim that Republicans are into smearing when the entire Democrat platform was a vast smear and lie.

How do Democrats defend the current attempts to destory the American economy? Deficits in the trillions; National Debt climbing at an alarming rate, unemployment heading to double digits; all this after we were LIED to that if the American people voted Democrats into power, they would be fiscally responsible, bring back bi-partisanship/bring the nation together and be more transparent than the previous adminstration.

Here's my rating of the current morons running our Government: :thumbdown:
Sabz5150
 
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Reply Wed 4 Nov, 2009 08:40 pm
@Truth Detector,
Truth Detector;68773 wrote:
Right wing smear machine? REALLY?

I find it amusing when Libruls attempt to claim that Republicans are into smearing when the entire Democrat platform was a vast smear and lie.

How do Democrats defend the current attempts to destory the American economy? Deficits in the trillions; National Debt climbing at an alarming rate, unemployment heading to double digits; all this after we were LIED to that if the American people voted Democrats into power, they would be fiscally responsible, bring back bi-partisanship/bring the nation together and be more transparent than the previous adminstration.

Here's my rating of the current morons running our Government: :thumbdown:


You act if this is new news... new happenings. Detect the truth for me: when exactly did this round of deficit spending start? Methinks the detector starts blipping loudly when pointed at Bush. Remember the surplus he started with? Remember that it didn't last a year? I do.

But that spending was okay I suppose. Lapel pins and yellow ribbons...

Also, detect this truth: When did the economy take a nosedive? Again, you will end up with the same results. Didn't Bush okay the TARP? Didn't he already allocate half of it? Didn't we see multiple triple digit drops under his watch? Thinking so!

The "Ownership Society" is what you called it. How's that working out for ya?

This talk is neat and all, but the real question is this: Why are you trying to deflect a known lie reported as fact with the intent to smear by talking about things that, strangely enough, the Democrats didn't whip up? You have ZERO defense or explanation for the fact that this was reported, found to be a hoax, then retracted with such tripe as "It was plausible." Do you have ANY real response to this, or are you just trying to sweep more broken glass under the rug while blaming Timmy across the street?

C'mon, you won't let a little "liburl" like me break your argument that easily, will ya?
Truth Detector
 
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Reply Thu 5 Nov, 2009 03:03 am
@Sabz5150,
Sabz5150;68783 wrote:
You act if this is new news... new happenings. Detect the truth for me: when exactly did this round of deficit spending start? Methinks the detector starts blipping loudly when pointed at Bush. Remember the surplus he started with? Remember that it didn't last a year? I do.


Do you remember 9-11? The recession inherited at the beginning of Bush?s term? Do you remember a vastly Bi-Partisan congress sending our troops into Afghanistan and Iraq? Do you remember Hurricane Katrina?

I find it fascinating when a Librul who supports spending the US taxpayer into a $1.6 trillion deficit conveniently avoiding the FACTS to support an indefensible policy that is doing NOTHING to expand the economy and stop the job losses.

Of course you are the one, based on the thread topic, who prefers to demagogue and blather the forum with hyperbole and hypocrisy and I would be giving you too much credit to presume you could detect anything close to the ?truth.?

Another little FACT for Libruls like you who conveniently avoid the TRUTH; Democrats took over the Congress and Senate at the beginning of 2007 when the deficit was about $168 BILLION on a platform that they would be fiscally responsible, transparent and engage the other side in a new era of bipartisanship. Today, anyone with a modicum of intelligence can see that these were nothing but partisan lies, divisive hyperbole and merely demagogue their opponents and they never had any intent to be ?responsible? but rather push through a leftist agenda that the American voter would have never voted for had they been honest.


Sabz5150;68783 wrote:
But that spending was okay I suppose. Lapel pins and yellow ribbons...


The spending in my opinion based on the FACTS was okay because you conveniently forget that we were fighting two wars, dealing with 9-11 and a major natural disaster in a major American (Democrat controlled) city that was severely unprepared thanks to their Librul leadership.

What I find amusing is when Libruls like you keep pointing to Bush?s $200 billion deficit spending for logical reasons as an excuse for your guys to borrow and spend the American taxpayer into a $1.6 trillion hole with not ONE honest debate about how to pay for it all.

I also remembered that for EIGHT years we had to watch the Librul media and Democrats whine and bemoan Bush giving taxpayers a break and claim that it was irresponsible and led to the loss of a surplus, thanks to a Republican Congress by the way, and deficits and how Bush should raise taxes.

Today we see Democrats since 2007 spending us into a $1.6 trillion deficit for purely partisan political pandering without one honest debate about how they will pay for it and whose taxes will be raised. But alas, we know the reason for that as well; they know that they will have to raise EVERYONE?s taxes and want to hold the debate until after the 2010 midterm elections also for purely partisan political purposes.

Sabz5150;68783 wrote:
Also, detect this truth: When did the economy take a nosedive? Again, you will end up with the same results. Didn't Bush okay the TARP? Didn't he already allocate half of it? Didn't we see multiple triple digit drops under his watch? Thinking so!


Yes the stock market collapse thanks to mortgage backed sub-prime mortgages, which were the sacred cow Democrats protected in hearings on the matter in 2004 and 2005, and derivatives hit in the last quarter of 2008 under Bush?s watch with a Democrat controlled congress.

Yes Bush approved the TARP program which was an effort to prevent a collapse of our financial institutions; but your claims are begging for a point.

The notion that this justifies the reckless out of control spending we are seeing in this ?fiscally? responsible partisan Democrat congress requires a willful suspension of disbelief or, perhaps in your case, wallowing in denial.

Sabz5150;68783 wrote:
The "Ownership Society" is what you called it. How's that working out for ya?


I find your trite na?ve notions about free markets laughable; the notion that becoming dependent wards of the State as being better for Americans than being independent can only be argued, again, in a vacuum of reality and the facts.

Democrats offer NOTHING to the American people other than ever expanding Government largess, ever expanding taxation and creating a society that is dependent on the Government from cradle to grave. You may want to read the Constitution and the writings of the founders and review the history that made this nation the most free, prosperous and strongest in the world.

The notion that a Government can spend its way to economic prosperity requires a level of willful denial that anyone with a modicum of intelligence should find impossible.

Sabz5150;68783 wrote:
This talk is neat and all, but the real question is this: Why are you trying to deflect a known lie reported as fact with the intent to smear by talking about things that, strangely enough, the Democrats didn't whip up?


I find it fascinating that you think that a talk show host who was FOOLED is somehow a relevant defense for the incredible lies and distortions spewed by Democrats to gain political power. Do you really think what Rush Limbaugh says is relevant to the economic malaise we are in right now and the irresponsible nearly criminally negligent spending we are seeing from the current administration? REALLY?

The one doing all the deflecting here happens to be Libruls like you; just look at the farcical thread title for a clue.

Democrats with Obama at the lead claimed that if they spent almost $1 trillion on stimulus, unemployment would stay below 8%; that was a lie. They claimed that the stimulus program would stimulate demand and restart the economy; so far that was a lie.

Every month we have seen a loss of jobs in excess of 200,000 since this ?post turtle? took over with no end in sight. Every month mortgage foreclosures continue to rise due to the fact that many cannot find jobs that have lost them. Every month we are watching more businesses close shop and a wave of commercial foreclosures that may eclipse the housing foreclosure. Every day the National Debt is skyrocketing by over $1,000,000 with no end in sight and Democrats think we should spend even more.

You just cannot fabricate the level of stupidity that infests the Congress and White House these days and you want to whine about Rush Limbaugh? You?re kidding me right?

Sabz5150;68783 wrote:
C'mon, you won't let a little "liburl" like me break your argument that easily, will ya?


The notion that you could stand toe to toe with me in any debate or argument requires the same willful suspension of disbelief you have thinking that the stupidity we are seeing in a Democrat led Government can be covered by complaining about a TALK SHOW host; again it begs the question, you?re kidding me right?

Carry on; your clown like attempts to pretend this is about Republicans are about as lame as your attempts to claim Rush is a relevant diversion from the irresponsible stupidity we are seeing from a Democrat led Congress and White House.

:rollinglaugh:
Sabz5150
 
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Reply Thu 5 Nov, 2009 11:19 am
@Truth Detector,
You still attempt to deflect with no real answer. You attempt to reframe this topic into something that you can copy-paste information to and from.

Not gonna happen.

In between all your spewing of typical conservative tripe, you have not ONCE attempted to answer the topic of this thread. This shows a SERIOUS lack of debate ability and strength... you wouldn't need to turn this into a typical who-spends-what spat if this weren't the case. All you go on about is "our spending is okay because of 9/11" (by the by, the surplus was gone BEFORE 9/11 ever happened) and "they are spending out of control!" (although given the total costs of roughly 3.5 trillion dollars of the prev. administration, this admin hasn't even come close).

Your debate skills are hovering around your typical sixteen year old child that has found out how to twitblog the interscapes. Again, evident from the fact that NOTHING you have posted has addressed the original topic and even more so from the fact that you flatly refuse to address the topic. Most of your "facts" are easily addressed (Where did you get 1.6 trillion? Could it be the cost of the healthcare bill? Funny that). On top of that, you use the 9/11 crutch... typical conservative.

You want a spending spree debate? Find another thread... perhaps one where the topic is, I dunno, actually relevant to the thread. The ONLY person that brought this to the thread is YOU. YOU attempted to bring in topics you think you can actively debate, being unable to do anything with what the thread is actually about. YOU brought up the economy, YOU brought up 9/11, YOU brought up deficits and spending.

How much of that pertained to this thread? None of it.

You say you can debate? You wouldn't botch it this badly if you could.

Try again, slick.
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Fri 6 Nov, 2009 07:01 am
@Sabz5150,
Sabz5150;68748 wrote:
The Obama ?Thesis? Hoax The Washington Independent

If you didn?t listen to Rush Limbaugh?s radio show today, you missed the news that an obscure blogger had gotten his hands on ten pages of Barack Obama?s college thesis, thanks to Joe Klein of Time magazine. Michael Ledeen had jumped on the news, publishing an excerpt that revealed how the president had ?doubts? about the ?so-called founders.? And Limbaugh ran with it.

The problem: It was a hoax, actually marked as a satire, as Klein blogged earlier today. Ledeen apologized.


And how did this person apologize?

[H]e got me, and lots of others. It worked because it?s plausible.

Plausible?! Please tell me, conservatives, what isn't plausible in reference to your smears and lies? Given the "death panels", "socialism" and such, the answer to that is not much at all.

But ho-lee SH!T when the hoax about Bush and the TANG hit... didn't that cost somebody their job. But it was so plausible...

Was it, conservatives? We all know those "fact" things never seem to slow you down.


Rush is such a cretin. It doesn't surprise me at all that he doesn't fact check anything.
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thomascrosthwaite
 
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Reply Sat 7 Nov, 2009 12:22 am
@Sabz5150,
Not only do Republicans lie but right wing preachers do the same. They lead their followers to believe that the Scopes trail was all about the truefulness of evolution and that they won . Both are lies, but they make people who do not know any better believe them. and all kinds of other crape. Learning,Speech,&Attention Defects | Man with learning disabilities, communication disorders, ADHD, becomes author
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Truth Detector
 
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Reply Sat 7 Nov, 2009 02:43 am
@Sabz5150,
Sabz5150;68790 wrote:
You still attempt to deflect with no real answer. You attempt to reframe this topic into something that you can copy-paste information to and from.

Not gonna happen.

In between all your spewing of typical conservative tripe, you have not ONCE attempted to answer the topic of this thread.


I have answered the thread topic; it is a pile of hyperbolic Librul bile plain and simple. Do I need to get out my crayons to make it more OBVIOUS?

Sabz5150;68790 wrote:
This shows a SERIOUS lack of debate ability and strength... you wouldn't need to turn this into a typical who-spends-what spat if this weren't the case.


No, what it shows is an ability to avoid engaging in a mindless circle of stupidity where a farcical claim is made, and when debunked, the Librul jumps to the next mindless farcical claim.

It is painfully obvious you aren?t interested in debate; but rather spewing the same empty headed talking points the DNC is becoming famous for.

But when you represent an ideology that is such a profound failure based on its history and the facts, I can see why you would prefer engaging in demagoguery of your opponents rather than engaging them in coherent debate.

Sabz5150;68790 wrote:
All you go on about is "our spending is okay because of 9/11" (by the by, the surplus was gone BEFORE 9/11 ever happened) and "they are spending out of control!" (although given the total costs of roughly 3.5 trillion dollars of the prev. administration, this admin hasn't even come close).

Your debate skills are hovering around your typical sixteen year old child that has found out how to twitblog the interscapes.


What irony, while going on a childish emotional whiney tirade, that you claim it would be others who are acting like children. I guess the FACTS are something you find distasteful. Based on your emotional babble and hyperbole that I see you post on this forum, I can say it is no surprise.

Sabz5150;68790 wrote:
Again, evident from the fact that NOTHING you have posted has addressed the original topic and even more so from the fact that you flatly refuse to address the topic. Most of your "facts" are easily addressed (Where did you get 1.6 trillion? Could it be the cost of the healthcare bill? Funny that). On top of that, you use the 9/11 crutch... typical conservative.


Fascinating; one of the most devastating events since the attack on Pearl Harbor and you dismiss it as a mere crutch.

I cannot say that I am shocked by your attempts to trivialize those events to support the criminally negligent spending of the current administration and their lies and distortions to demagogue their political opponents for purely hyper partisan political purposes.

Sabz5150;68790 wrote:
You want a spending spree debate? Find another thread... perhaps one where the topic is, I dunno, actually relevant to the thread. The ONLY person that brought this to the thread is YOU. YOU attempted to bring in topics you think you can actively debate, being unable to do anything with what the thread is actually about. YOU brought up the economy, YOU brought up 9/11, YOU brought up deficits and spending.


I am not on a spending debate; I staying am on the thread topic and illustrating how it farcically emotes the typical uninformed emotional pabulum of the Libruls in the Democrat Party in a vacuum of reality or the facts.

I use it to illustrate that your nonsensical emotional bile is merely an attempt to deflect from the REAL issues at hand and merely demagogue rather than be confused for intellectual debate.

How old are you? 20? Maybe you should read some history or economics 101 before you attempt to blather a forum with nonsense?

Sabz5150;68790 wrote:
You say you can debate? You wouldn't botch it this badly if you could.

Try again, slick.


As evidenced above, the only thing you have is a propensity for whiney diatribes and uniformed rants that contain little in the way of facts that could not be mistaken for anything containing thoughtful intellect.

Now run along; I have no interest in more of your whiney nonsense.
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Mr Shaman
 
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Reply Fri 15 Jan, 2010 12:58 am
@Truth Detector,
Truth Detector;68773 wrote:
[CENTER]Right wing smear machine? REALLY?[/CENTER]

[CENTER]Yeah....right....what're the chances?[/B]

Rolling Eyes[/CENTER]
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