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McCain gives up on defending Hagee

 
 
Sabz5150
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jun, 2008 03:26 pm
@DiversityDriven,
DiversityDriven;57492 wrote:
subject to personal interpretation, got anything else?


Is that your best shot? Can't debate the actual content?

Can't fight the facts kiddo.
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DiversityDriven
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jun, 2008 05:56 pm
@Sabz5150,
When are you gonna figure out it ain't a fact, it's an opinion.
Sabz5150
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2008 04:21 am
@DiversityDriven,
DiversityDriven;57524 wrote:
When are you gonna figure out it ain't a fact, it's an opinion.


McCain sought the endorsement of Pastor Hagee. This is a fact.

Obama did NOT seek the endorsement of Reverend Wright. This is a fact.

McCain defended Hagee, saying his words (concerning the Nazis as God's plan to move the Jews to their homeland) were, and I quote McCain here, "taken out of context." This is a fact.

Where's the opinion, Sanchez? Point it out.
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DiversityDriven
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2008 04:18 pm
@Sabz5150,
Quote:
McCain sought the endorsement of Pastor Hagee. This is a fact.
Heresay until you provide a link?

Quote:
Obama did NOT seek the endorsement of Reverend Wright. This is a fact.
Why should he seek it, he had it all along. So joining his race hating church, Being babptised and being married by the man, babtising his children, defending wright till he could no more Refusing to denounce him or his remarks. All wright had was hope and praise for the man until hussein finally denounced him.

Quote:
McCain defended Hagee, saying his words (concerning the Nazis as God's plan to move the Jews to their homeland) were, and I quote McCain here, "taken out of context." This is a fact.
Hows about a quote from Haggee so we may see ourselves? I noticed you didn't put hagees words in quotes, why? Make them up yourself?
Quote:
Where's the opinion, Sanchez? Point it out.
Post 23. Nothing but opinion until you provide something more then a word called "fact."
Sabz5150
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2008 04:50 am
@DiversityDriven,
DiversityDriven;57555 wrote:
Heresay until you provide a link?

Why should he seek it, he had it all along. So joining his race hating church, Being babptised and being married by the man, babtising his children, defending wright till he could no more Refusing to denounce him or his remarks. All wright had was hope and praise for the man until hussein finally denounced him.

Hows about a quote from Haggee so we may see ourselves? I noticed you didn't put hagees words in quotes, why? Make them up yourself?
Post 23. Nothing but opinion until you provide something more then a word called "fact."


You obviously did not watch the videos. Everything you ask is right there. Including Hagee's words. If you wanna hear the man say those things, it's in the video. If you wanna see Mickey and Hagee up on stage together, it's in the video. If you want to see Mickey defend Hagee's comments, it's in the video.

You're falling apart quickly Sanchez. Very quickly I might add.
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Silverchild79
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2008 10:18 am
@Sabz5150,
I love how people try to tit for tat Hagee to Reverend Wright

Does Hagee also say crazy things which any decent person should take offense to? Of course he does. But he didn't marry McCain and his wife, McCain hasn't been a member of his church for two decades or more, Hagee didn't baptize McCain's kids, etc etc etc

The link between Hagee and McCain is nothing like the link between Wright and Obama, not even close. The fact is there are thousands if not millions of people with crazy ideas that support either candidate for whatever reason, that's all Hagee is. The liberal media spin machine continues to set the bar ever higher on stupidity and insulting the savvy American in the process.
Sabz5150
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2008 11:50 am
@Silverchild79,
Silverchild79;57604 wrote:
I love how people try to tit for tat Hagee to Reverend Wright

Does Hagee also say crazy things which any decent person should take offense to? Of course he does. But he didn't marry McCain and his wife, McCain hasn't been a member of his church for two decades or more, Hagee didn't baptize McCain's kids, etc etc etc

The link between Hagee and McCain is nothing like the link between Wright and Obama, not even close. The fact is there are thousands if not millions of people with crazy ideas that support either candidate for whatever reason, that's all Hagee is. The liberal media spin machine continues to set the bar ever higher on stupidity and insulting the savvy American in the process.


Who was it that sought the endorsement of their nutcase pastor of choice? Hint: Not Obama.
Silverchild79
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2008 12:12 pm
@Sabz5150,
He carries allot of ultra conservative support, I'm not suggesting McCain shouldn't have distanced himself. It was obviously a move to draw in Conservatives who were bitter toward a McCain nomination.

But if there were the Sat McCain would not be Hagee as Obama is to Wright
Sabz5150
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2008 12:17 pm
@Silverchild79,
Silverchild79;57607 wrote:
He carries allot of ultra conservative support, I'm not suggesting McCain shouldn't have distanced himself. It was obviously a move to draw in Conservatives who were bitter toward a McCain nomination.

But if there were the Sat McCain would not be Hagee as Obama is to Wright


Hagee has the greater political influence as well as a broader audience (a good part of the planet). I'd say his words carry more weight politically than Wright's.
Silverchild79
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2008 12:19 pm
@Sabz5150,
possibly, I don't follow either of them

but that's not my point (which you seem to be trying to get away from)

McCain's relationship with Hagee is dis-similar to Obama's Relationship with Wright
Sabz5150
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2008 12:27 pm
@Silverchild79,
Silverchild79;57609 wrote:
possibly, I don't follow either of them

but that's not my point (which you seem to be trying to get away from)

McCain's relationship with Hagee is dis-similar to Obama's Relationship with Wright


Wright was Bam's pastor, correct. However he washed himself of the wacky pastor, just like Mickey. If it works for one, why not the other?

The point I am making, and the one you are trying to distance yourself from, (more same than different!) is Mickey's relationship with a pair of zionist priests with more influence than Wright has ever attained.

I think you and I can agree that the constant here isn't who is aligned with who.
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DiversityDriven
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2008 02:36 pm
@Sabz5150,
Sabz5150;57605 wrote:
Who was it that sought the endorsement of their nutcase pastor of choice? Hint: Not Obama.
Why would he when he was drowning in his babtismal waters.
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DiversityDriven
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2008 02:37 pm
@Sabz5150,
Sabz5150;57608 wrote:
Hagee has the greater political influence as well as a broader audience (a good part of the planet). I'd say his words carry more weight politically than Wright's.
Ask B hussein that.
scooby-doo cv
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2008 02:41 pm
@DiversityDriven,
DiversityDriven;57642 wrote:
Ask B hussein that.


Have you got a problem with his name ? Does it sound too islamic for you ?
Silverchild79
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2008 02:45 pm
@Sabz5150,
I don't think the problem that people had with the Obama/Wright stuff was the amount of influence Wright had

The concern came because we knew nothing about Obama, then learned that the nut job Wright was basically a self described "uncle" to him. That someone that far on the fringe would be somebody who was that close to Obama was what was scary.
DiversityDriven
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2008 02:55 pm
@scooby-doo cv,
scooby-doo;57644 wrote:
Have you got a problem with his name ? Does it sound too islamic for you ?
Explain to me exactly what is wrong with how i adress B Hussein Obama? It doesn't sound too islamic, IT IS ISLAMIC. Comprede'
Sabz5150
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2008 03:03 pm
@Silverchild79,
Silverchild79;57645 wrote:
I don't think the problem that people had with the Obama/Wright stuff was the amount of influence Wright had

The concern came because we knew nothing about Obama, then learned that the nut job Wright was basically a self described "uncle" to him. That someone that far on the fringe would be somebody who was that close to Obama was what was scary.


So crazy religious banter from the Right is to be expected? Wait... silly question.

If there were a candidate without any crazy religious background, I'd consider voting for him... however given my choices, I gotta go with the lesser of the evils. For me that's Bam.
Sabz5150
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2008 03:04 pm
@DiversityDriven,
DiversityDriven;57647 wrote:
Explain to me exactly what is wrong with how i adress B Hussein Obama? It doesn't sound too islamic, IT IS ISLAMIC. Comprede'


It's immature.
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DiversityDriven
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jun, 2008 12:38 pm
@Sabz5150,
Sabz5150;57649 wrote:
So crazy religious banter from the Right is to be expected? Wait... silly question.

If there were a candidate without any crazy religious background, I'd consider voting for him... however given my choices, I gotta go with the lesser of the evils. For me that's Bam.
Doesn't that go against your pricipals as a fundie scientist? Is there evil in atheismland, i thought nature ruled.
scooby-doo cv
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jun, 2008 12:59 pm
@DiversityDriven,
DiversityDriven;57647 wrote:
Explain to me exactly what is wrong with how i adress B Hussein Obama? It doesn't sound too islamic, IT IS ISLAMIC. Comprede'


In your previous post you missed out Obama,and just used B Hussein,lets get too the point you think or are trying to make out he is a muslim.
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