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Voter Competency

 
 
Reply Mon 17 Sep, 2007 12:34 pm
Just and idea I'm throwing out, if you don't like it, throw it right back:

Before entering the ballot box, would it not be prudent to ensure that those voting actually KNEW for whom they were voting? I think so, and so I suggest a competency test needs to be passed with 80% or better in order to vote.

Nothing too difficult, just a multiple choice quiz of sorts.

Example:

Which of these candidates supports the shaving of puppies?
A) Mickey Mickleson (Q-TX)
B) Johnny Johnson (Z-NY)


This I believe would end the practice of campaigns waiting outside polling stations saying, "vote for #4" (it happens ALL the time), as educated voters don't fall for that sort of crap.

Thoughts?
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mlurp
 
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Reply Mon 17 Sep, 2007 11:43 pm
@Freeman15,
Well i failed so it is a mute issue for me to registar to vote. loooooooool
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Curmudgeon
 
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Reply Tue 18 Sep, 2007 02:41 am
@Freeman15,
When I encounter the people outside the polls with signs and pamphlets, I tell them loud and proud that they are foolish for asking me to vote for their candidate! I have already studied the issues and the candidates and made up my mind long before going to the voting booth.
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tvsej
 
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Reply Tue 18 Sep, 2007 03:59 am
@Freeman15,
Freeman15;37791 wrote:
Just and idea I'm throwing out, if you don't like it, throw it right back:

Before entering the ballot box, would it not be prudent to ensure that those voting actually KNEW for whom they were voting? I think so, and so I suggest a competency test needs to be passed with 80% or better in order to vote.

Nothing too difficult, just a multiple choice quiz of sorts.

Example:

Which of these candidates supports the shaving of puppies?
A) Mickey Mickleson (Q-TX)
B) Johnny Johnson (Z-NY)


This I believe would end the practice of campaigns waiting outside polling stations saying, "vote for #4" (it happens ALL the time), as educated voters don't fall for that sort of crap.

Thoughts?


It would be nice to be surounded by average intelligent people where ever we went doing any number of activities. Most people of less intelligence would probably turn tail and run from the knowledge there is a test involved first. Or as many idiots did in school during SAT's, christmas tree it. That would really screw **** up.
The people outside saying vote for # 4 are just hoping half are influenced by it just being said and the other half have #4 as their favorite # and vote because of that. (somewhat joking)

Seriously, I would like to have more political education starting in school not for any parti just general knowledge. A test to determine the political knowledge of a voter is a good concept, just not applicable in my opinion. Good post Freeman!
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Curmudgeon
 
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Reply Tue 18 Sep, 2007 04:11 am
@Freeman15,
When I went to school back in the dark ages, we did have very comprehensive social studies classes that addressed these subjects. I'm not sure why they are not being offered now.
A thinking voter can find info on all this with little effort these days, but many don't.
kmchugh
 
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Reply Tue 18 Sep, 2007 04:38 am
@Curmudgeon,
Freeman, I'd be in favor of such a test, but then I'd be even more in favor of a system of citizenship as proposed by Heinlein in the book Starship Troopers, a far better book than the movie, who's only resemblance to the book was the title.

But both of us know that any such proposal (yours or mine) would be quickly stricken down by the courts as unconstitutional. There have been many attempts in history to limit the voting population, and most of these were actually little disguised attempts to keep various groups (black, women, and others) from voting. Because of this historical record, any future attempts to ensure an informed voting populace will be doomed before it ever even gets on paper.
mlurp
 
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Reply Tue 18 Sep, 2007 11:19 am
@Curmudgeon,
Curmudgeon;37933 wrote:
When I went to school back in the dark ages, we did have very comprehensive social studies classes that addressed these subjects. I'm not sure why they are not being offered now.
A thinking voter can find info on all this with little effort these days, but many don't.



Same here. I did well back then. passed with B+. Now the same government is a different breed of heathens.
I'm for more in school about the nation and the world. take out the stupid sex classes where they teach Bill and Bob are great dads raising up little Johnny. Or the other way around. Now I am not speaking out against any life style. But dose every child in public school need to be shown this different lifestyle. When only about 10% (I hope that is the high mark) of them become members of this different lifestyle.
tvsej
 
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Reply Tue 18 Sep, 2007 11:32 am
@mlurp,
mlurp;37970 wrote:
Same here. I did well back then. passed with B+. Now the same government is a different breed of heathens.
I'm for more in school about the nation and the world. take out the stupid sex classes where they teach Bill and Bob are great dads raising up little Johnny. Or the other way around. Now I am not speaking out against any life style. But dose every child in public school need to be shown this different lifestyle. When only about 10% (I hope that is the high mark) of them become members of this different lifestyle.


Do they really show a film like in the school today? I had no idea if so.
mlurp
 
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Reply Tue 18 Sep, 2007 01:26 pm
@tvsej,
Todays schools are a meeting place for our younger to plan parties and almost everything else besides learning the basic of when most of us went to school. Far to many teens who graduate can't even balance a check book. Understand the labels on anything in the stores. Or write a decent resume or spell word above the 50 cent ones. And that is the plan the Machiavellians have for the general population. You would be shocked if you sat in classes in todays schools from the 4th grade on to the 12th grade.
There is no real teaching of any core subject or mainstream subjects. The government is taking America for a slow trip to become a third world nation. Owners and workers. No social welfare or Medicare. And the sounds of silence are written on the subways and tenement walls!!!
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briansol
 
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Reply Tue 18 Sep, 2007 02:08 pm
@Freeman15,
this is, after all, the whole point of the electoral college.

our forefathers envisioned that the general populous was too stupid to be a direct voter.
mlurp
 
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Reply Tue 18 Sep, 2007 05:46 pm
@briansol,
briansol;38009 wrote:
this is, after all, the whole point of the electoral college.

our forefathers envisioned that the general populous was too stupid to be a direct voter.



Classes have always ruled and it keeps the flow and whom is decided to win in the long run wins. It is the "idea" that many of the upper class support. So yes I agree. The IDEA is larger than life itself.
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Red cv
 
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Reply Tue 18 Sep, 2007 06:22 pm
@Freeman15,
Freeman15;37791 wrote:
Just and idea I'm throwing out, if you don't like it, throw it right back:

Before entering the ballot box, would it not be prudent to ensure that those voting actually KNEW for whom they were voting? I think so, and so I suggest a competency test needs to be passed with 80% or better in order to vote.

Nothing too difficult, just a multiple choice quiz of sorts.

Example:

Which of these candidates supports the shaving of puppies?
A) Mickey Mickleson (Q-TX)
B) Johnny Johnson (Z-NY)


This I believe would end the practice of campaigns waiting outside polling stations saying, "vote for #4" (it happens ALL the time), as educated voters don't fall for that sort of crap.

Thoughts?


I like your idea, in Canada many people vote as their parents did and when you ask them why are you a "Liberal" they state because it's how their family voted. When I ask them do you know what the party stands for these days they can't answer me. I always direct them to a Liberal internet forum in Canada to date most can't look me in the face. I can only imagine the horror of horrors when they realise the Liberal Party has gone so far left that they openly admit they are soft commies or socialist ( I lisped when I used the S word). So yes they should know who they are voting for and they should know that Liberals are the new socialist and the Conservatives are the new Classical Liberal. IN Canada the NDP are frankly freaks who think transvestites should be given a national holiday (they want Veterns or Memorial Day how's that for insulting? One gives their life for their country the other wears a dress for fun) for their suffering. Yea okay I believe that's already covered, Halloween anyone?
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Freeman15
 
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Reply Tue 18 Sep, 2007 10:43 pm
@kmchugh,
kmchugh;37935 wrote:
Freeman, I'd be in favor of such a test, but then I'd be even more in favor of a system of citizenship as proposed by Heinlein in the book Starship Troopers, a far better book than the movie, who's only resemblance to the book was the title.

But both of us know that any such proposal (yours or mine) would be quickly stricken down by the courts as unconstitutional. There have been many attempts in history to limit the voting population, and most of these were actually little disguised attempts to keep various groups (black, women, and others) from voting. Because of this historical record, any future attempts to ensure an informed voting populace will be doomed before it ever even gets on paper.


Yeah, but a guy can dream, a guy can dream.....
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aaronssongs
 
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Reply Wed 19 Sep, 2007 07:24 am
@briansol,
briansol;38009 wrote:
this is, after all, the whole point of the electoral college.

our forefathers envisioned that the general populous was too stupid to be a direct voter.


Yet, despite that fear, George Bush was elected to his current term (the first, was stolen for him)...now we know, the premise is false...because Gore won the popular vote in 2000, and, clearly, he was the "smarter" choice for president.
Drnaline
 
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Reply Wed 19 Sep, 2007 08:28 am
@Freeman15,
Stolen by who, SCOTUS? This aut to be good.
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mlurp
 
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Reply Wed 19 Sep, 2007 10:21 am
@aaronssongs,
aaronssongs;38117 wrote:
Yet, despite that fear, George Bush was elected to his current term (the first, was stolen for him)...now we know, the premise is false...because Gore won the popular vote in 2000, and, clearly, he was the "smarter" choice for president.

All but the Gore remark is true. Al is another Ford. I am surprized he hasn't falled down getting off his jet plane that is the worst fuel gulper in the air! Or hurt his finger shutting off the extra lights to his far to large of a home. I bet he has lights hidden in the walls... Now that doesn't mean I don't think to lower our carbon prints isn't wise if not to late. But I don't want to hear it from this clown!
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