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Europe is source of evil

 
 
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Tue 11 Sep, 2007 07:59 pm
@John OMellie,
Yeah......theirs is an arrogance rooted in moral corruption. They've forgotten their own story, and their amnesia is killing them.
mlurp
 
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Reply Tue 11 Sep, 2007 10:17 pm
@John OMellie,
John O’Mellie;33261 wrote:
I’m not loony. I’ve just have had dispute with my friend. May be some of competent members of this forum could convince him. We’ve talked about Europeans. He considers them more civilized and more intelligent and more humane than Americans. I say that Europeans are just haughty hypocritical parasites. We lay ourselves out defending them from Muslim extremists while they welcome Islamite terrorists and plan to build the largest mosque in Europe (that’s Great Britain). Those Chechen militants spread all over European territory intimidating local inhabitants. And European human rights advocates cry about oppressions of disfranchised refugees.
Moreover Europe is Cradle of Fascism. I’ve heard they’ve been organizing marches of SS officers up till now somewhere in Baltia. Their police beat antifascists and threaten Jews with carnage.
And European gay-marches that try to plant buggery by force among Europeans and to seize political power in EU. And all this filth comes here. And many of such naive people like my friends consider them cressets of culture and far more enlightened than Americans.
Please answer us. May be he’ll listen to you.

A bit judgemental isn't this opinion? They are more depraved than America but we are not far behind them. Americans allowed this nation to become depraved. with it's me first and working for the weekend stupidity. Kids raising kid. the list goes on and on! And one important fact is it won't change!
markx15
 
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Reply Wed 12 Sep, 2007 04:21 am
@John OMellie,
Most european countries have passed through situations that have tested their survival. These experiences mounted on the actual time they have existed gives them an advantage in what would seem to be cultural superiority, but they simply have a nationalism inbred not by propaganda as it is most anywhere else. However if you wish to follow that line of thought you will also reach the conclusion that some african tribes which have existed for over 3000 years as superior the the europeans, and the chinese are above us all. There are cultural values in every part of the world that diferentiate the population of that area from anywhere else, that is not an indication of superiority, mearly of understanding, of a unified population. However this also makes many countries meek, they no longer have the will to conquer, the will to take the steps necessary for their ultimate survival. They may have learned a few lesson more than the USA, but they definatly skipped the: it is better to prevent than to fix. They have become predictable in a place where the element of surprise is of the essence. You know how the people in each of these countries are, for the most part.
socalgolfguy
 
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Reply Wed 12 Sep, 2007 10:47 am
@John OMellie,
Mark - these are very different times than we have ever seen at any time in history. Small wars hundreds of years ago with rudimentary weapons were replaced with mortars and rockets, and now to the real threat of nuclear attack that has the possibility of forever changing the world. What has happened is irrelevant. It is the future that concerns me.
markx15
 
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Reply Wed 12 Sep, 2007 11:02 am
@John OMellie,
I agree, what is happening has never to our knowledge happened before. However we have already changed the world, perhaps forever, mostly through our industrial revolution, and urbanization. How can you say that what has happened is irrelevant, there are feuds that know no time or place, they are happening here and now. Can you say the crusades were irrelevant to jihad, something that plagues us to this day? The past is only irrelevant to the opressor, never to the people. You concern yourself over your future? Your future is death, there is no sidestepping your future, your death. This is the same for everyone, it is what makes us equals. As to what happens after you die, well that is a matter of personal opinion.
mlurp
 
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Reply Wed 12 Sep, 2007 01:12 pm
@socalgolfguy,
socalgolfguy;36626 wrote:
Mark - these are very different times than we have ever seen at any time in history. Small wars hundreds of years ago with rudimentary weapons were replaced with mortars and rockets, and now to the real threat of nuclear attack that has the possibility of forever changing the world. What has happened is irrelevant. It is the future that concerns me.


A-Men!!!!
I would agree with the post above yours but for one line. (and the Chinese are above us all) In the context it was said it is right. But in todays world they are well below even the tribes of Africa. Except in war making materials.
I haven't heard a recall of any African products. And we all have heard about the Chinese recalls. Substandard in society, nationalism, laws, and protection of it's people. All they have is a military that is fed. So many others have less because they are not able to join the military.
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socalgolfguy
 
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Reply Wed 12 Sep, 2007 02:47 pm
@markx15,
markx15;36632 wrote:
How can you say that what has happened is irrelevant, there are feuds that know no time or place, they are happening here and now.


Thanks for asking - what I meant to say is that the past is the past. There is nothing we can do to change that. I believe that the good Lord put your eyes in the front of your head for one purpose - to look forward.

Prepare for the future by learning from the past.
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Wed 12 Sep, 2007 07:47 pm
@markx15,
markx15;36561 wrote:
Most european countries have passed through situations that have tested their survival. These experiences mounted on the actual time they have existed gives them an advantage in what would seem to be cultural superiority, but they simply have a nationalism inbred not by propaganda as it is most anywhere else. However if you wish to follow that line of thought you will also reach the conclusion that some african tribes which have existed for over 3000 years as superior the the europeans, and the chinese are above us all. There are cultural values in every part of the world that diferentiate the population of that area from anywhere else, that is not an indication of superiority, mearly of understanding, of a unified population. However this also makes many countries meek, they no longer have the will to conquer, the will to take the steps necessary for their ultimate survival. They may have learned a few lesson more than the USA, but they definatly skipped the: it is better to prevent than to fix. They have become predictable in a place where the element of surprise is of the essence. You know how the people in each of these countries are, for the most part.


Good analysis. I agree. Europe is over-the-hill and on its way down the tubes. BUT....I really dig that short feature-film showing the two Scottish heroes who jumped the terrorists in Glasgow. Those guys rock. THOSE ARE MY SOUL-BROTHERS.
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markx15
 
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Reply Wed 12 Sep, 2007 09:04 pm
@John OMellie,
Quote:
Thanks for asking - what I meant to say is that the past is the past. There is nothing we can do to change that. I believe that the good Lord put your eyes in the front of your head for one purpose - to look forward.

Prepare for the future by learning from the past.


Now this is something I can agree with.

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And we all have heard about the Chinese recalls. Substandard in society, nationalism, laws, and protection of it's people.


They sure know how to build though, have you seen their establishments for the olympics? Unmatched, simply amazing.
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scooby-doo cv
 
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Reply Thu 13 Sep, 2007 11:21 am
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;36269 wrote:
Europe is weak, and quickly surrendering its heritage and identity. Its belief that 'it's cool to be cool', at all costs, will eventually push it to the brink of annihilation. Predictably, and for the third time, the US will have to bail it out. Europe is so old and weather-beaten, it's lost the will to persevere. One major reason is its gradual abandonment of Christianity. Without it, Europe is lost.


you talk some amount of rubbish pino :thumbdown:
scooby-doo cv
 
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Reply Thu 13 Sep, 2007 11:24 am
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;36467 wrote:
Yeah......theirs is an arrogance rooted in moral corruption. They've forgotten their own story, and their amnesia is killing them.


"their amnesia is killing them " where do you get them from pino LOL
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socalgolfguy
 
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Reply Thu 13 Sep, 2007 11:51 am
@scooby-doo cv,
scooby-doo;36821 wrote:
you talk some amount of rubbish pino :thumbdown:


spoken like a true euro neo-lib.
tvsej
 
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Reply Thu 13 Sep, 2007 12:56 pm
@mlurp,
mlurp;36507 wrote:
A bit judgemental isn't this opinion? They are more depraved than America but we are not far behind them. Americans allowed this nation to become depraved. with it's me first and working for the weekend stupidity. Kids raising kid. the list goes on and on! And one important fact is it won't change!


Hello and welcome by the way,

We have done it to ourselves, no doubt.

Europe is a huge continent, which countries exactly in your opinion or fact, are more depraved than America. I can name a few and I can name a few who are far better off and more free in many ways than we are. I am just curious about which ones.
We, (I am American) are for the majority of our population, depraved of non gene manipulated foods (all of USA), education without thousands of $'s, factual news and world news without the spin, the truth about our leaders agenda once in office, the truth about alternative energies, we are not as free as many believe we are, deprived of constitutional rights. This list also goes on and on.
I do however believe that it will change, for better or worse conditions, I am not sure, but change is a coming.

T.
tvsej
 
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Reply Thu 13 Sep, 2007 01:50 pm
@socalgolfguy,
Pino, Socal, it just ain't so, Europe leads the way in many areas of the worlds needs. Without a tiny little country almost the size of Oregon we would be without brakes for our cars (American cars)and other vital parts for the same, medical equipment in every hospital in America, scientific breaks throughs medical and technical, inventions we all enjoy today, another list that could go on and on.

America is not the almighty we are told it is, our propaganda news and information leads us to believe we are the best, richest and the strongest country in the world. In fact we are lucky to have Europe as our alias, if for no other reason than statigic locations. Without that, what would we do, launch everything from home base USA? That is not possible.

Yesterday, Germany became officially debt free, that is something America can't do. That tiny little country is the world leader in Export. 32% (I think it is higher) of all vehicles sold in America last year 2006, where vehicles manufactured in Germany. Ask yourself why, and be honest.

A few countries in Europe are ahead of us by leaps and bounds, we should wake up before they pass us so far we will never catch up.

Following the capture of the 3 men (2 were German, 1 Turk) planning an attack, Germany announced that next year a new law will be in affect for any person who converts to Islam from that day on will be seen as a national threat (Terrorist). Way to go, that is not weak or pro Islam in any way.

The laws will be changed to make the unwanted uncomfortable to stay here, no need for genocide, they will go all alone. No more social money, no more automatic citizenship for kids born here to non German parents who can then stay because of the kids. They are leaving Germany as I type and running to England, yippy I say. England pays non English workers higher wages than Germany 7.05.oo Euro officailly, in reality it is 5.00 to any non German. Mmmm wonder why! See the change?

I am sure to be beheaded for this post.

Food for thought; Russia and China are big friends with Europe, that is alot of power all together.
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scooby-doo cv
 
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Reply Thu 13 Sep, 2007 03:55 pm
@socalgolfguy,
socalgolfguy;36837 wrote:
spoken like a true euro neo-lib.


who knows a hell of a lot more about europe than you do :thumbup:
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Thu 13 Sep, 2007 07:29 pm
@scooby-doo cv,
scooby-doo;36886 wrote:
who knows a hell of a lot more about europe than you do :thumbup:


And what do you know -- that it needs to be socialist and pacifist? You only know the post-modern Europe, not the one that gave birth to the United States, its strong, faithful, courageous, first son. You know and live in Europe, The Sick and Dying Grandfather of the West. :thumbdown:
socalgolfguy
 
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Reply Thu 13 Sep, 2007 07:45 pm
@scooby-doo cv,
scooby-doo;36886 wrote:
who knows a hell of a lot more about europe than you do :thumbup:


who knows a hell of a lot more about the US than you do.
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Fri 14 Sep, 2007 03:59 am
@John OMellie,
The bottom line is that Europe is apathetic and lethargic about everything. It just doesn't give a damn anymore, about anything. Ask any European in America, and he'll tell you the same thing about the state of European Christianity. He'll almost immediately say, "Many believe, but nobody goes to church anymore." Sad. Very, very sad. Meanwhile, the Socialists are gloating, while inviting millions of Moslems who want to kill them into their countries. The only people repopulating the Continent are its Moslem immigrants. Europe is doomed.
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scooby-doo cv
 
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Reply Fri 14 Sep, 2007 11:38 am
@socalgolfguy,
socalgolfguy;36951 wrote:
who knows a hell of a lot more about the US than you do.


not US foreign policy you dont :thumbup:Very Happy
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scooby-doo cv
 
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Reply Fri 14 Sep, 2007 11:41 am
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;36944 wrote:
And what do you know -- that it needs to be socialist and pacifist? You only know the post-modern Europe, not the one that gave birth to the United States, its strong, faithful, courageous, first son. You know and live in Europe, The Sick and Dying Grandfather of the West. :thumbdown:


who says im a pacifist pino,you ? i can assure you im no pacifist,i was against the war in iraq,but that dont make me a pacifist,as for your rant about Europe,yout talking garbage.
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