More "Democracy" In Action

Source? In order to retain any credibility you need to cite a source for something like this.

The associated press website.

I really don't care to much about proving myself as credible. What I post is easilly found by anyone thats interested

Here's a link from the NY times story about but its all over the place

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/10/wo...10iraq.html?hp

I saw it on teh news, sounds like another win for Blackwater. Representing America thug life style in Iraq.

So my credibility is in tact with you?

You should post links. Had the story been some obscure crackpot blog entry, one could spend an hour looking for it. Why would anyone care enough to look for something you don't care enough to link?

Thats the point. The story WAS easilly accessable and I didn't think I NEEDED to post the link. But I totally understand where you're coming from though. I, because of some of the media outlets that I'm at, get the news ahead of the rest of the "common folk" because it hasn't hit mainstream news yet. IF it was an obscure blog post, I agree, it would be difficult if not impossible to find the info.

I'll try to remember to cite sources in the future. Thanks for the feedback.

Print Story: Funeral for 2 slain in security shooting on Yahoo! News

What's the big deal? I think the story is believable enough, on its' face, than most of the crap the WH press secretary puts out. I don't believe diddly coming out of the WH.

Posting that "some contractors killed a couple women and drove off" while believable, has no merit without a source. Obviously it's all over hte news now, but atm he posted it was breaking and not quite "out" yet, at least to those of us that don't scoure the interent 24/7.

I would say that reporting on a story prior to it "breaking" speaks volumes for my credibility.

Not if it turned out to be untrue. Copy pasting a sentence as a news story isn't credible, links, sources, siting.

I agree. The story is true however.

Besides the fact that this is a discussion forum NOT a news service.

True enough, and on that note, another win the belt notch of democracy by hired guns in Iraq. Boy, aren't those mercenacies making us look great?

America hasn't looked great since bush and his henchmen took control.

I don't think Black Water was involved in this one if I recall what I read yesterday about it as I posted it on another site.
But it could effect all the different security groups doing business there.

Like I have repeatably said things are quickly getting out of human control. Or it is starting to come under Gods' control and His, time frame. IMHO.
One has to remember this all is about a family feud starting a long time ago. By 3 adults and 2 children in the center of it all. Iraq, and our involvement there is still part of this same feud. Oh how we lose site of the truth when our opinions and feelings get in the way! Oh hereis a follow up on the action yesterday.

Outraged Iraqis condemn killings by foreign guards by Salam Faraj
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BAGHDAD (AFP) - Outraged Iraqi authorities on Wednesday condemned the killing in Baghdad of two women by foreign security guards but the Australian-run firm that hired the contractors said they had opened fire fearing a suicide attack.

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"The government and the prime minister and everybody categorically condemns the actions of this company," the head of Baghdad security, General Qassim Mussawi, said in a statement.

Tuesday's shooting came just days after Iraq vowed to punish US firm Blackwater when a probe found that its guards opened "deliberate" fire in another incident in Baghdad three weeks ago, killing 17 civilians.

Witnesses to the latest shooting, in Karrada neighbourhood, said a woman taxi driver mistakenly got too close to a convoy of Dubai-based Unity Resources Group (URG) and came under immediate gunfire by the guards.

The taxi driver, an Armenian Christian identified as Maroni Ohannes, 49, and a female passenger died of gunshots to the head. Another woman passenger was wounded in the shoulder, while a child was injured by flying glass.

Several witnesses reported barrages of gunfire, and a policeman who witnessed the shooting said that after blazing away at the car the foreign security guards sped off "like gangsters."

Commenting on the incident, Unity said in a fresh statement issued late Wednesday that its convoy was "approached at speed by a white car."

"The security team used graduated and escalated responses which included non-lethal means such as signage, strobe lights, hand signals, and a signal flare fired in front of the vehicle in an effort to get it to stop.

"The vehicle did not heed these warnings and failed to halt. Fearing a suicide attack, only then did the team use their weapons in a final attempt to stop the vehicle."

It regretted the loss of lives and said its officials had been meeting with Iraqi authorities "throughout the day and are cooperating with their investigations."

A small group of the dead women's grieving relatives gathered for their funerals at the Armenian Church in central Baghdad on Wednesday.

"The incident is a barbarous crime," said one sobbing relative, Kasbar Boghos. "Those guards are inhuman. They have no pity nor do they have any religion."

Another, Kevork Armelian, judged the shootings a "crime against humanity."

"We call on the Iraqi government to put an end to this," Armelian told AFP. "It was clear that women were inside the car when they opened fire haphazardly and deliberately.

"We demand the expulsion of the company so that others can learn a lesson. The Australian government when sending envoys should teach them human rights -- not how to kill innocent people."

The US State Department, whose personnel Blackwater had been escorting during the earlier incident on September 16, has denied any link between the latest shooting and the American government.

However, it has emerged that Unity was returning to its headquarters after transporting members of RTI International, a company under contract to the US government agency USAID, when the two Iraqi women were killed.

"No RTI staff members were involved or present when the incident occurred. Unity was not transporting RTI personnel at the time.

"They had completed a transportation mission and were returning to their base of operations," Patrick Gibbons, the group's communications director, told AFP, while confirming RTI personnel had just been dropped off.

RTI is a non-profit organisation involved in training Iraqis in local government management and administration.

"USAID does not direct the security arrangements of contractors," US embassy spokeswoman Mirembe Nantongo told AFP.

"Contractors are contractually responsible for the safety and wellbeing of their employees," she said, adding that the State Department was in contact with the Iraqi authorities about the shooting.

Iraq's government said on Monday that it was determined to rein in private security contractors operating in the war-torn country following the Blackwater shooting, which an Iraqi report said was unprovoked.

"We have set strict mechanisms to control the behaviour of the security companies and their conduct in the streets," interior ministry spokesman Abdul Karim Khalaf said.
Outraged Iraqis condemn killings by foreign guards - Yahoo! News

Christians have been singing that end of times tune since the alleged time of Jesus. If we have mercenaries in the region, that are quite obviously paid better than the troops, don't you think that worsens the situation? Especially after news come out that exposes them as cold blooded assassins.

Mlurp, you have stated that you were in Iraq. In what capacity and for how long? What did you see? What is your honest opinion of how the Iraqi's view America? Are we liberators or are we considered occupiers?

I would actually like to interview you on the subject.