Liberals "Social" Medicare Program

if Hillary gets in the white house the only people who's quality of life will suffer will be the middle class

the rich still won't care how much health care costs because their loaded, and the poor won't care because they get it for free. The middle class American will pay. All of us growing up who couldn't get financial aid for college because our parents made to much, and couldn't get financial aid from our parents because they just didn't have the money, will be the portion of America who can't afford healthcare, and can't get it for free.

Very true. Unfortionately, it's the middle class who is always getting looked over when laws pass reguarding paying taxes, medicare, ect.

Speaking of taxes, can someone point out where in the US Constitution it states we are mandated to pay federal taxes? I don't believe it is in there.

I pay 53 percent income tax and that is only one of a hundred taxes I pay for my FREE medical care. It's not free in Canada we are taxed even in death (14% ) tell the socialist who think it's free and it works to shove off and take jumb off a tall building. The US system isn't perfect, but FREE medical care will cripple your earning potential.

Say no to Hillary.

If I had the "Vote" I'd never vote for that woman. I cannot believe people actually would vote for that vile bag of skin.

I feel your pain all too well. If they're going to give out healthcare, in order to be fair, they need to give it to everyone equally.

Medicare just sucks. Plain and simple. It screwed up the best health care system in the world, and it's just time for the government, altogether, to butt out.

What would you suggest as an alternative?

If you don't have medical care, tough titty?

I would suggest privatizing it and making people get off their arse and get a job so the government doesn't have to do everything for them. And if they can't get a job for actual reasons other than not being able to find one, yeah, have the government help, just get out otherwise. Did you know that our health care system was the best in the world before Medicare? Cheaper drugs, etc., don't seem all that bad to me.

Two things:

1) Your ability to live, if you depends on expensive medical care, should not be tied to your job. That's completely immoral. "Work for us like we want, or we'll fire you and you'll die! hahaha!" It gives your employer WAY too much power over you. You can't leave. You can't start working for yourself. They know this, and they exploit it. They can pay you as little as they feel like, and treat you as poorly as they feel like, up to the extent of the law. And you can suck it up and go on with it, or die. What kind of choice is that?

2) The majority of people without health care in the country do, in fact, work. There is and will probably always be a sector in the job market where it isn't feasible to pay all the extra expense of health care. I could start naming them all, but I don't feel it's necessary -- the bottom line is, not all jobs provide health care, and someone will always have to be working those jobs. Sure, one person might "rise above" those conditions and find a better job, but it's just going to mean someone else has to take it, and someone else, who works hard every day, is going to be without health care.



No, I didn't really know that. I'd like to see some facts to verify that, though. I do know, however, that the president has threatened to veto H.R. 4 (bottom of the list), which would let Medicare haggle over the price of drugs.

I do know that the cost of health care in countries where it's completely socialized is lower than here in the USA. And they have healthier citizens, and their healthcare is actually better, according to the WHO. Check out the Wikipedia article on it. It links to the actual reports at the bottom, in the references. We pay more than any other country, but still rank 37th. What's up with that? Most of the countries ranking above us have socialized medicine, and are healthier on average than us here in the USA.