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STNGfan;20394 wrote:Values... you mean christian values... like Compassion, tolerance and understanding..
You mean like how Christian recruit by brainwashing little children in sunday school and tell them how God is so loving and kind but omit where he kills and smites you if you make him mad? Like killing the innocent babies of egypt because he hardened the pherohs heart to not let the Jews go?
Yes the bible smells of Values and ethics especailly in the OT.
Your compassion and my compassion seem not to be the same. God's Word does not teach tolerance for evil. He teaches that you are to fight evil with the whole armor of God.
Actually, the Bible school I attended included the smitings. It was not brain washing. It was education. What is the definition of education? I'm glad you asked.
Definition of education - Merriam-Webster Online DictionaryPurpose of Education
"We must ask ourselves what our goals are when educating our children. "The end of learning" wrote John Milton "is to repair the ruin of our first parents by regaining to know God aright, and out of that knowledge to love Him, to imitate Him, to be like Him."
Here is another:
Purpose of Education
"Encyclopedia Britannica of 1952 says the purpose of education is to raise up children to follow in their parents traditions with good success.
Parents in all societies want their children to have the same values as themselves.
What happens when people with different beliefs teach the children?
If the king of England could control the teaching in Russia, wouldn't he try to have subtle teachings to change the children?
The Russians clearly stated they wanted to change the way children in America were taught, even before World War II.
Clearly, each power wants to teach children according to their ways of thinking.
The great question is who will be in control of teaching children, the parents or the central government ?
Notice in all changes of power, the new conqueror tends to purge (murder or imprison) the previous leading thinkers of the conquered society.
Consider the man who saw his child grow up to have totally different values than his own. It alienates members of the family.
By 1998 The World Book encyclopedia said some of the main purpose of schools today was to replace what parents were no longer doing for their children, to give them guidance and values. The new system of federal government schools did not begin until 1948 when the foolish Supreme Court removed Bible classes from school campus. Centralized control of our schools was further strengthened when LBJ established the U.S. Dept. of Education. Remember, from 1620 till 1960, there was no provision for centralized control over schools. The federal government was not originally intended to teach our children.
If the king of England could have controlled what schools taught, the Magna Charter would never have been gained by the people of England.
Instead, the king would have taught all the children to be totally submissive to the king and all his wishes.
Early American settlers well knew the importance of training up their children, and the effects of outside influences contrary to their own beliefs.
That's why they left England for Holland, and Holland for America.
TRADITIONAL UNDERSTANDING OF A GOOD SCHOOL
Whatever the ways of living are, each society wants its children to fit into the society of the parents. The children are expected to carry on the values and ideas of their parents.
Schools are expected to give children the tools they need to earn a living.
That has been the traditional understanding of a good education.
The American Indians wanted their children to learn to hunt and ride a horse and worship the great spirit. They failed in their raising of children according to their culture and their culture is evaporated away. The Moslems want their children to believe like they do, so they teach them their way. The atheists want their children to believe like they do, so they teach them their way; not only their own children, but they try to teach everyone else's children too!
Atheists are effectually doing a more active job of evangelism to their way of thinking than are the Christians.
Consider the schools and what is taught and what is omitted.
Scripture says, It is an abomination for the righteous to fall down before those who do not believe, but that is what has happened in the public schools of this land. Proverbs 25:26
Prov 29:2 ...when the unbelievers rule the schools, the people mourn for the fruit in their off-spring
HUMANISM is just another word for atheism. It began in the garden of Eden when the serpent deceived Eve into ignoring God and believing that her own knowledge of good and evil would make her like her own god.
The humanists have a written agenda, nationally published, for many years, to destroy the traditional Christian faith from children in school. They claim to be winning the battle in the classrooms. The humanists have gained so much control over what is being taught and how it is being taught that the children are being won over to their philosophies at a greater and greater rate. That rate is rapidly accelerating.
The people in political and economic power who are willing to invest their time and efforts and resources to raising up a generation of children to fit their own society are mostly the humanists. Look at how the local Lutheran school had to close its doors because of lack of support. Look at how the children of Christian parents don't know even the Ten Commandments, but they do know many tenets of Humanism as a way of belief. Then ask who is working harder to mold the minds of children?
Remember the purpose of education is to train up children in the way that you want them to be. Training is a process over time. What training is your child getting five days a week that fit with the way God has commanded all who believe in Him to raise up their children?"