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GAYS - The Bible is full of Crapola

 
 
STNGfan
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jun, 2007 11:43 am
@DesertDave,
P.S to all the Christians trying to follow the bible to the T. God has already deteremined who gets into heaven and who doesn't. So you can do all the crap it says in the bible but if God has already said you are not getting in.
No matter what you do or how much you accept Jesus in your heart. You are not getting in.
Greatest I am cv
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jun, 2007 02:07 pm
@DesertDave,
God makes all souls Perfect and allows them freedom knowing that they will live up to their natures. God likes surprises as part of His evolving nature, Hence our own freedom of choice.
That is why we justify God and God in turn justifies us.
He does not need to micromanage are care not where man sticks his body parts.
He allows homophobia to create a stimulating debate to draw many to the Bible. All homophobes incidental to their agenda may be drawing many to God.
They are such tools they are probably not aware of it.

So to all homophobes out there, keep drawing them in at the expense of your own reputations.

Regards
DL
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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jun, 2007 02:27 pm
@STNGfan,
STNGfan;21823 wrote:
P.S to all the Christians trying to follow the bible to the T. God has already deteremined who gets into heaven and who doesn't. So you can do all the crap it says in the bible but if God has already said you are not getting in.
No matter what you do or how much you accept Jesus in your heart. You are not getting in.


If you're a friggin Calvinist, maybe.
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Volunteer
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jun, 2007 07:28 pm
@STNGfan,
STNGfan;21823 wrote:
P.S to all the Christians trying to follow the bible to the T. God has already deteremined who gets into heaven and who doesn't. So you can do all the crap it says in the bible but if God has already said you are not getting in.
No matter what you do or how much you accept Jesus in your heart. You are not getting in.


NIV, Luke 15:3-7, "Then Jesus told them this parable: "Suppose one of you has a hundred sheep and loses one of them. Does he not leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost sheep until he finds it? And when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders and goes home. Then he calls his friends and neighbors together and says, 'Rejoice with me; I have found my lost sheep.' I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent."
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Volunteer
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jun, 2007 07:41 pm
@STNGfan,
STNGfan;21823 wrote:
P.S to all the Christians trying to follow the bible to the T. God has already deteremined who gets into heaven and who doesn't. So you can do all the crap it says in the bible but if God has already said you are not getting in.
No matter what you do or how much you accept Jesus in your heart. You are not getting in.
All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on His right, and the goats on the left. Then the King will say to those on His right, 'Come, you who are blessed by My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.
For I was hungry and you gave Me something to eat;
I was thirsty and you gave Me something to drink;
I was a stranger and you took Me in;
I was naked and you clothed Me;
I was sick and you took care of Me;
I was in prison and you visited Me.
"Then the righteous will answer Him, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You something to drink? When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or without clothes and clothe You? When did we see You sick, or in prison, and visit You?'
"And the King will answer them, 'I assure you: Whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of Mine, you did for Me. Then He will also say to those on the left, 'Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the Devil and his angels!
For I was hungry and you gave Me nothing to eat;
I was thirsty and you gave Me nothing to drink;
I was a stranger and you didn't take Me in;
I was naked and you didn't clothe Me, sick and in prison and you didn't take care of Me.'
As many as I love, I rebuke and discipline. So be committed and repent. Listen! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and have dinner with him, and he with Me. The victor: I will give him the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I also won the victory and sat down with My Father on His throne. "Anyone who has an ear should listen to what the Spirit says to the churches."
Greatest I am cv
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jun, 2007 08:03 am
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;21932 wrote:
All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on His right, and the goats on the left. Then the King will say to those on His right, 'Come, you who are blessed by My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.
For I was hungry and you gave Me something to eat;
I was thirsty and you gave Me something to drink;
I was a stranger and you took Me in;
I was naked and you clothed Me;
I was sick and you took care of Me;
I was in prison and you visited Me.
"Then the righteous will answer Him, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You something to drink? When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or without clothes and clothe You? When did we see You sick, or in prison, and visit You?'
"And the King will answer them, 'I assure you: Whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of Mine, you did for Me. Then He will also say to those on the left, 'Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the Devil and his angels!
For I was hungry and you gave Me nothing to eat;
I was thirsty and you gave Me nothing to drink;
I was a stranger and you didn't take Me in;
I was naked and you didn't clothe Me, sick and in prison and you didn't take care of Me.'
As many as I love, I rebuke and discipline. So be committed and repent. Listen! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and have dinner with him, and he with Me. The victor: I will give him the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I also won the victory and sat down with My Father on His throne. "Anyone who has an ear should listen to what the Spirit says to the churches."


God makes all sheep and all goats with Perfect souls.
Do not make God a looser by saying He fouls up making souls.
He is quite good at it and does not foul up. They are all Perfect.
If they are not Perfect then there is no God, or just an incompetent one.

Regards
DL
couchp
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jun, 2007 08:46 am
@DesertDave,
I thought this thread was about how much crap is in the Bible. Why are some of you quoting it all the time? It just reiterates how much crap there is.
Like the great man is there on the cross, and asks "father why hast thou forsaken me!" Surely a case ('sorry I quoted') How could he be God as well!
Unless he did not know of course. The book is a contradiction of words. It uses wordplay. So it can be used to suit the occasion. And please don't quote the book for your reply, try using some logical response!
Maybe God should be called the big bang, because that is the only creator I believe! 'Eureka, I have found it' I'm off to write a book now!!!!
Greatest I am cv
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jun, 2007 08:52 am
@couchp,
couchp;22042 wrote:
I thought this thread was about how much crap is in the Bible. Why are some of you quoting it all the time? It just reiterates how much crap there is.
Like the great man is there on the cross, and asks "father why hast thou forsaken me!" Surely a case ('sorry I quoted') How could he be God as well!
Unless he did not know of course. The book is a contradiction of words. It uses wordplay. So it can be used to suit the occasion. And please don't quote the book for your reply, try using some logical response!
Maybe God should be called the big bang, because that is the only creator I believe! 'Eureka, I have found it' I'm off to write a book now!!!!


You are using a quote to make your point.
Reciprocity is fair play.
Why would you deny us the same latitude you use?
If you will not identify crap and its location, how can we debate you.
Idiot.

Regards
DL
couchp
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jun, 2007 09:12 am
@Greatest I am cv,
Greatest I am;22045 wrote:
You are using a quote to make your point.
Reciprocity is fair play.
Why would you deny us the same latitude you use?
If you will not identify crap and its location, how can we debate you.
Idiot.

Regards
DL


I think for someone who is debating, albeit an opinion! to call me an idiot, when I have not called you a name. Convinces me of your true worth.
So go ahead and quote if it makes you happy. And I will reply, try to reply without pontificating too much! I'm sure there's a quote somewhere from Jesus about idiots! Plus if we all agreed, why not just go on some church chat room! The whole point of philosophy is to question,debate, disagree with the normal or see the point of it! 'oh I thought I apologised for quoting!
Greatest I am cv
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jun, 2007 09:27 am
@couchp,
couchp;22048 wrote:
I think for someone who is debating, albeit an opinion! to call me an idiot, when I have not called you a name. Convinces me of your true worth.
So go ahead and quote if it makes you happy. And I will reply, try to reply without pontificating too much! I'm sure there's a quote somewhere from Jesus about idiots! Plus if we all agreed, why not just go on some church chat room! The whole point of philosophy is to question,debate, disagree with the normal or see the point of it! 'oh I thought I apologised for quoting!


"Idiot" was for trying to set a stupid rule for debate. If you don't see it then you may be further down that road than I had meant. Time will tell.

Regards
DL
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jun, 2007 09:31 am
@DesertDave,
Name calling is not allowed.
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Volunteer
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jun, 2007 09:40 am
@Greatest I am cv,
Greatest I am;22032 wrote:
God makes all sheep and all goats with Perfect souls.
Do not make God a looser by saying He fouls up making souls.
He is quite good at it and does not foul up. They are all Perfect.
If they are not Perfect then there is no God, or just an incompetent one.

Regards
DL


Reading your posts is like walking through a mud flat, bog, or other terrain where each step sinks into a putrid mess that sucks at your leg to prevent further progress each time you try to take another step. All the while, knats and other pests are flying around your head and bugging you. Some even fly into your mouth as you intake breath and get lodged at the back of your throat, inhibiting your ability to take antoher breath. In the mean time, a bore tide is coming in fast behind you and you can hear the sound of its rushing progress.

You continue to put your own limitations on God because you don't understand Him.

Since you insist on relativism, try this: your perfection is not his perfection.

You equate perfection of created creatures with not doing anything that you, as an imperfect human, don't understand or approve of. God chooses to make humans with free will. He doesn't want automatons. Humans can make those.

Do you have friends? If you do, are they perfect?

Your name announces your belief that you are greater than God, since one of God's names is I AM.

You have said you have children. Are they perfect? If you are, as your name announces, and your children are not perfect, why didn't you make them perfect?
Volunteer
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jun, 2007 09:42 am
@couchp,
couchp;22042 wrote:
I thought this thread was about how much crap is in the Bible. Why are some of you quoting it all the time? It just reiterates how much crap there is.
Like the great man is there on the cross, and asks "father why hast thou forsaken me!" Surely a case ('sorry I quoted') How could he be God as well!
Unless he did not know of course. The book is a contradiction of words. It uses wordplay. So it can be used to suit the occasion. And please don't quote the book for your reply, try using some logical response!
Maybe God should be called the big bang, because that is the only creator I believe! 'Eureka, I have found it' I'm off to write a book now!!!!


Explain the rock, but don't show me the rock because I don't believe in the rock. Great logic!
Greatest I am cv
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jun, 2007 09:59 am
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;22067 wrote:
Reading your posts is like walking through a mud flat, bog, or other terrain where each step sinks into a putrid mess that sucks at your leg to prevent further progress each time you try to take another step. All the while, knats and other pests are flying around your head and bugging you. Some even fly into your mouth as you intake breath and get lodged at the back of your throat, inhibiting your ability to take antoher breath. In the mean time, a bore tide is coming in fast behind you and you can hear the sound of its rushing progress.

You continue to put your own limitations on God because you don't understand Him.

Since you insist on relativism, try this: your perfection is not his perfection.

You equate perfection of created creatures with not doing anything that you, as an imperfect human, don't understand or approve of. God chooses to make humans with free will. He doesn't want automatons. Humans can make those.

Do you have friends? If you do, are they perfect?

Your name announces your belief that you are greater than God, since one of God's names is I AM.

You have said you have children. Are they perfect? If you are, as your name announces, and your children are not perfect, why didn't you make them perfect?


Everything in God's universe is Perfect.
If not then there is no God.
A God that creates imperfection is a false God so why would anyone follow him.

If your God has the ability to foul up that is fine. mine does not.
God does not foul up the creation of souls. If they are imperfect then they belong in Hell.
Hell is where your imperfect God puts his mistakes.
My God has no need for Hell because He never makes mistakes in creating souls. They are all Perfect.

When did your God learn to foul up?

Regards
DL
Volunteer
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jun, 2007 10:30 am
@Greatest I am cv,
Greatest I am;22075 wrote:
Everything in God's universe is Perfect.
If not then there is no God.
A God that creates imperfection is a false God so why would anyone follow him.

If your God has the ability to foul up that is fine. mine does not.
God does not foul up the creation of souls. If they are imperfect then they belong in Hell.
Hell is where your imperfect God puts his mistakes.
My God has no need for Hell because He never makes mistakes in creating souls. They are all Perfect.

When did your God learn to foul up?

Regards
DL


Answer my questions and I'll answer yours. Otherwise, this isn't a debate, it's a litany of you accusations against God.

You have a problem with God. You seem angry with Him.

You call yourself a god, you spit in God's face. It doesn't matter what your concept of a god is. You aren't God, period.

Answer these questions:

Do you have friends? If you do, are they perfect?

Your name announces your belief that you are greater than God, since one of God's names is I AM.

You have said you have children. Are they perfect? If you are, as your name announces, and your children are not perfect, why didn't you make them perfect?
Greatest I am cv
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jun, 2007 11:03 am
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;22081 wrote:
Answer my questions and I'll answer yours. Otherwise, this isn't a debate, it's a litany of you accusations against God.

You have a problem with God. You seem angry with Him.

You call yourself a god, you spit in God's face. It doesn't matter what your concept of a god is. You aren't God, period.

Answer these questions:

Do you have friends? If you do, are they perfect?

Your name announces your belief that you are greater than God, since one of God's names is I AM.

You have said you have children. Are they perfect? If you are, as your name announces, and your children are not perfect, why didn't you make them perfect?


I am glad that you like my name and i have answered you.
We are all Perfect otherwise God failed to create Perfect souls and this in not possible.
From Perfection comes Perfection.
Unless you think an imperfect God is worth following.

Regards
DL
Reagaknight
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jun, 2007 11:24 am
@DesertDave,
You are assuming to know what God intended to create when he created us.
Greatest I am cv
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jun, 2007 11:33 am
@Reagaknight,
Reagaknight;22097 wrote:
You are assuming to know what God intended to create when he created us.


Logical deduction.

What do you think He wanted, sheep or men?

Regards
DL
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Volunteer
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jun, 2007 11:53 am
@Greatest I am cv,
Greatest I am;22093 wrote:
I am glad that you like my name and i have answered you.
We are all Perfect otherwise God failed to create Perfect souls and this in not possible.
From Perfection comes Perfection.
Unless you think an imperfect God is worth following.

Regards
DL



Is that your mantra?
socalgolfguy
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jun, 2007 11:54 am
@DesertDave,
One of my idiot friends once blew it in a jar of mayonnaise at an ex-friend's house. I couldn't eat egg salad for years after.

No kiddin'
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