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Catholic church the biggest business organization yet

 
 
imuthis
 
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Reply Thu 31 May, 2007 04:34 pm
@Pinochet73,
The name of the real church introduced by Christ has a very simple name. It doesn't need some deep digging to realize that. It was named after God "The Church of God", logically speaking; he owns the church, therefore it was named after his glorious name. (Though i don't take the bible by verses i will provide some to prove my point.)

Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.


1 Corinthians 1:2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both their's and our's:

1 Corinthians 10:32 Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:

1 Corinthians 11:22 What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? what shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not.

1 Corinthians 15:9 For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.

2 Corinthians 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, unto the church of God which is at Corinth, with all the saints which are in all Achaia:

Galatians 1:13 For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:

1 Timothy 3:5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)

And finally:

Galatians 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

The question is does the "Catholic Church" inherited the name of the church established by God which is written in the Gospel?
Volunteer
 
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Reply Thu 31 May, 2007 06:08 pm
@imuthis,
SPEAK GENTLY.
Speak gently! it is better far

To rule by love than fear:

Speak gently! let not harsh words mar

The good we might do here.

Speak gently! 'tis a little thing,

Dropped in the heart's deep well,

The good, the joy, which it may bring,

Eternity shall tell.
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Thu 31 May, 2007 08:24 pm
@imuthis,
"It was named after God "The Church of God", logically speaking; he owns the church, therefore it was named after his glorious name. (Though i don't take the bible by verses i will provide some to prove my point.)"

By whom, when, and how do you know? How would a 'Church of God' differ from any other place where the Deity is worshipped, including synagogues, mosques, shrines, smoke-lodges, etc., etc.? Nope. As a Christian, I don't want to hang out in 'churches of God'. I want to attend a CATHOLIC MASS, where I can worship JESUS CHRIST. Feel me, Bro?:bs2:
imuthis
 
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Reply Thu 31 May, 2007 09:26 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;18677 wrote:
"It was named after God "The Church of God", logically speaking; he owns the church, therefore it was named after his glorious name. (Though i don't take the bible by verses i will provide some to prove my point.)"

By whom, when, and how do you know? How would a 'Church of God' differ from any other place where the Deity is worshipped, including synagogues, mosques, shrines, smoke-lodges, etc., etc.? Nope. As a Christian, I don't want to hang out in 'churches of God'. I want to attend a CATHOLIC MASS, where I can worship JESUS CHRIST. Feel me, Bro?:bs2:


You have to read the whole new testament to know what are the specific instructions for the member of the Church of God (not "Churches of God"). The problem with people is they believe to the preacher, in Catholic's Case; a priest. But they never give some time to understand and read the bible.
Reagaknight
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jun, 2007 05:02 am
@imuthis,
imuthis;18654 wrote:
The name of the real church introduced by Christ has a very simple name. It doesn't need some deep digging to realize that. It was named after God "The Church of God", logically speaking; he owns the church, therefore it was named after his glorious name. (Though i don't take the bible by verses i will provide some to prove my point.)

Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.


1 Corinthians 1:2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both their's and our's:

1 Corinthians 10:32 Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:

1 Corinthians 11:22 What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? what shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not.

1 Corinthians 15:9 For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.

2 Corinthians 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, unto the church of God which is at Corinth, with all the saints which are in all Achaia:

Galatians 1:13 For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:

1 Timothy 3:5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)

And finally:

Galatians 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

The question is does the "Catholic Church" inherited the name of the church established by God which is written in the Gospel?


But the Catholic church is the church of God. "Catholic" meanxs universal, it's the universal Christian religion. These verses speak of just one church, not many.
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jun, 2007 06:07 pm
@imuthis,
imuthis;18679 wrote:
You have to read the whole new testament to know what are the specific instructions for the member of the Church of God (not "Churches of God"). The problem with people is they believe to the preacher, in Catholic's Case; a priest. But they never give some time to understand and read the bible.


So, what have I been doing, on a daily basis, for the last 35 years, when I held the Bible in hand and read it? :wtf:
rugonnacry
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jun, 2007 08:06 pm
@imuthis,
(Ryans Prayer, by the way, I am Ryan) *Dear Lord Protect me from your followers*
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jun, 2007 03:55 pm
@imuthis,
It's my greatest hope that in time, all of Mankind will become CATHOLIC.

HOOOOOAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
rugonnacry
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jun, 2007 04:02 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;18789 wrote:
It's my greatest hope that in time, all of Mankind will become CATHOLIC.

HOOOOOAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Ha ha
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jun, 2007 08:28 pm
@rugonnacry,
rugonnacry;18791 wrote:
Ha ha



No....you got it wrong. It's "HOOOOOAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!" Now try it again.
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imuthis
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jun, 2007 09:16 am
@Reagaknight,
Reagaknight;18683 wrote:
But the Catholic church is the church of God. "Catholic" meanxs universal, it's the universal Christian religion. These verses speak of just one church, not many.


The bible didn't say anything about universal religion. If you believe this "Catholic" means universal then prove it biblically.:peace:
imuthis
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jun, 2007 09:21 am
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;18725 wrote:
So, what have I been doing, on a daily basis, for the last 35 years, when I held the Bible in hand and read it? :wtf:


I don't know. Read again for another 35 years.
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Volunteer
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jun, 2007 11:53 am
@imuthis,
imuthis;18837 wrote:
The bible didn't say anything about universal religion. If you believe this "Catholic" means universal then prove it biblically.:peace:
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jun, 2007 04:25 pm
@imuthis,
imuthis;18837 wrote:
The bible didn't say anything about universal religion. If you believe this "Catholic" means universal then prove it biblically.:peace:


Universal CHRISTIAN religion, Giblet-Head. And the Bible is not the last word on Christianity. The Christian community existed long before the New Testament was finally compiled, edited, approved and published. A lot of stuff happened during that time, in addition to the writing of what later became the New Testament. A lot of Catholic nomenclature, traditions, practices, etc., etc., evolved from that part of the Christian experience. :FU1:
Volunteer
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jun, 2007 06:32 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;18881 wrote:
Universal CHRISTIAN religion, Giblet-Head. And the Bible is not the last word on Christianity. The Christian community existed long before the New Testament was finally compiled, edited, approved and published. A lot of stuff happened during that time, in addition to the writing of what later became the New Testament. A lot of Catholic nomenclature, traditions, practices, etc., etc., evolved from that part of the Christian experience.


2 Peter 1:18-21, “For we did not follow cleverly contrived myths when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ; instead, we were eyewitnesses of His majesty. For when He received honor and glory from God the Father, a voice came to Him from the Majestic Glory:
This is My beloved Son.
I take delight in Him!
And we heard this voice when it came from heaven while we were with Him on the holy mountain. So we have the prophetic word strongly confirmed. You will do well to pay attention to it, as to a lamp shining in a dismal place, until the day dawns and the morning star arises in your hearts. First of all, you should know this: no prophecy of Scripture comes from one's own interpretation, because no prophecy ever came by the will of man; instead, moved by the Holy Spirit, men spoke from God.
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imuthis
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jun, 2007 09:17 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;18881 wrote:
Universal CHRISTIAN religion, Giblet-Head. And the Bible is not the last word on Christianity. The Christian community existed long before the New Testament was finally compiled, edited, approved and published. A lot of stuff happened during that time, in addition to the writing of what later became the New Testament. A lot of Catholic nomenclature, traditions, practices, etc., etc., evolved from that part of the Christian experience. :FU1:


What did you said? "The Christian community existed long before the New Testament was finally compiled."? Actually, there is no word about Christians in old testament until Acts 11:26 which is in the New Testament. Again back to Galatians 1:8-9.
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jun, 2007 10:10 pm
@imuthis,
imuthis;18967 wrote:
What did you said? "The Christian community existed long before the New Testament was finally compiled."? Actually, there is no word about Christians in old testament until Acts 11:26 which is in the New Testament. Again back to Galatians 1:8-9.


The Bible is not history. It's religious literature. It doesn't tell the whole story of Christianity, from its start to the present. That's the province of History, that is, the academic version. You're using the Bible to find explanations for everything. That's inappropriate and very inaccurate. It took Christians roughly 190 years to develop in its present form, the New Testament. And that fact is not in the New Testament itself. Nonetheless, the academic field of HISTORY tells us that's so. If you cherish the Bible, you must study its development, and to do that, you have to read sources besides the Bible itself. Trust me.....doing so will only cause you to love the Bible more. It's safe to the true believer and rational thinker. Trust me. Go ahead......Google up 'the history of the Bible'. That's "history OF the Bible", not 'history in the Bible'.
cornnfedd
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2007 05:36 am
@imuthis,
can i just point out that macdonalds owns more land then the catholic church, oh and they are full of far less crap as well. although they are similar in the fact that they both tell the 'consumers' lies...


haha LOL
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imuthis
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2007 06:47 am
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;18980 wrote:
The Bible is not history. It's religious literature. It doesn't tell the whole story of Christianity, from its start to the present. That's the province of History, that is, the academic version. You're using the Bible to find explanations for everything. That's inappropriate and very inaccurate. It took Christians roughly 190 years to develop in its present form, the New Testament. And that fact is not in the New Testament itself. Nonetheless, the academic field of HISTORY tells us that's so. If you cherish the Bible, you must study its development, and to do that, you have to read sources besides the Bible itself. Trust me.....doing so will only cause you to love the Bible more. It's safe to the true believer and rational thinker. Trust me. Go ahead......Google up 'the history of the Bible'. That's "history OF the Bible", not 'history in the Bible'.


I take history as a subject prerequisite in order for me to graduate from college. What you said was true; knowing the history of the bible will cause me to love it even more, but i don't take its history as a basis for my faith which is a different thing.

And I'm not trying to explain everything using the bible as a basis. Do i look like trying to explain the theory of relativity here? Doing so, your right, will make me inaccurate because a physics book will teach you physics, a geology book will teach you geology, therefore its irrelevant to refer to a physics book if you want to learn geology. Same as the Bible, it offers salvation, so would you refer to a history book as a basis for salvation?
Drnaline
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2007 07:43 am
@imuthis,
Good post.
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