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Catholic church the biggest business organization yet

 
 
Reagaknight
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jun, 2007 10:44 am
@imuthis,
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First of all I'm not asking for anyones' help here, and I didn't said something like "I am a true Christian", did I?



You said that Catholicism is not the true religion, implying that yours is.

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Thats what I'm talking about. You didn't get it, if Alberto Rivera existed then this offensive article about the Catholic Church surely existed too. Notice your source (Wikipedia); There, tells something about Rivera's account about Catholicism, therefore the fact that it is posted as an article of Wikipedia, indeed, it exist (You even read it already). And did that article told something good about Catholic Church, No. Thus, its scandalous for the Catholic Church. As you said, "Rivera did nothing he claimed he did (obviously)", but he already did and it's there the only question is if its true or not, either way, its their problem.


Okay, so basically you've just admitted that you are a drug dealer and pimp in Chicago? Also guilty of ten murders and you've commited adultery?

Those statements really have no foundation on anything, there is no proof for it, and I assume it is not true, just like Alberto Rivera's story. Here's a tidbit:According to Wikipedia, Alberto Rivera had no sister named Maria who was a nun. But according to him, as found on Wikipedia:

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imuthis
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jun, 2007 04:49 pm
@Reagaknight,
Reagaknight;20478 wrote:
You said that Catholicism is not the true religion, implying that yours is.


There you go again and again. I didn't claim to be part of any religion.

Reagaknight;20478 wrote:
Okay, so basically you've just admitted that you are a drug dealer and pimp in Chicago? Also guilty of ten murders and you've commited adultery?

Those statements really have no foundation on anything, there is no proof for it, and I assume it is not true, just like Alberto Rivera's story. Here's a tidbit:According to Wikipedia, Alberto Rivera had no sister named Maria who was a nun. But according to him, as found on Wikipedia:


You can't understand anything i said didn't you? Whether its true or not, 'It's there', its part of the history that a man existed which shook the Catholic Church that 'allegedly' a Jesuit and 'allegedly' had a sister named Mario who was a nun. You believe bad things about Alberto Rivera but you somehow disbelieve his account about Catholic Church because they said so, isn't that a little biased.
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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jun, 2007 07:03 pm
@imuthis,
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There you go again and again. I didn't claim to be part of any religion.


Then what, in your opinion, is the true religion as opposed to Catholicism?

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You can't understand anything i said didn't you? Whether its true or not, 'It's there', its part of the history that a man existed which shook the Catholic Church that 'allegedly' a Jesuit and 'allegedly' had a sister named Mario who was a nun. You believe bad things about Alberto Rivera but you somehow disbelieve his account about Catholic Church because they said so, isn't that a little biased.


Okay, and those totally serious accusations made by me against you is there, without proof and easily disproved, are still there, and they may affect a small fringe group (like fundies were affected by Rivera) and gullible people, so there still there and they've totally had an effect on your reputation.
imuthis
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2007 06:35 am
@Reagaknight,
Reagaknight;20624 wrote:
Then what, in your opinion, is the true religion as opposed to Catholicism?


I don't know. All i know that Catholic Church is not.

Reagaknight;20624 wrote:
Okay, and those totally serious accusations made by me against you is there, without proof and easily disproved, are still there, and they may affect a small fringe group (like fundies were affected by Rivera) and gullible people, so there still there and they've totally had an effect on your reputation.


That's Ok, It's just me. Your right saying serious accusations without proof are still here in this forums and may affect my reputation. Your no different than Alberto Rivera leaving accusations without proof. Therefore you just shown an example of a Catholic Church member which will destroy his fellow human being's reputation without hesitation or so. Good practice for a Christian, don't you think?
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Volunteer
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2007 04:49 pm
@Reagaknight,
Reagaknight;20624 wrote:
Then what, in your opinion, is the true religion as opposed to Catholicism?



Okay, and those totally serious accusations made by me against you is there, without proof and easily disproved, are still there, and they may affect a small fringe group (like fundies were affected by Rivera) and gullible people, so there still there and they've totally had an effect on your reputation.


Reagaknight, He just likes to stir the pot and make it stink. Step back and let him. The only person he'll get the stink on is himself.
imuthis
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2007 08:37 pm
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;20822 wrote:
Reagaknight, He just likes to stire the pot and make it stink. Step back and let him. The only person he'll get the stink on is himself.


Try Again.
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2007 09:47 pm
@imuthis,
Imu, how old are you?
imuthis
 
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Reply Wed 13 Jun, 2007 04:56 am
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;20885 wrote:
Imu, how old are you?


No offense but i my age is not the topic of the forum.
Reagaknight
 
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Reply Wed 13 Jun, 2007 05:52 am
@imuthis,
Okay I doubt I will respond to you anymore after this, but I meant, as you should know, that accusations with no proof do not have any effect on anyone's reputation except that of the accuser.
rugonnacry
 
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Reply Wed 13 Jun, 2007 07:41 pm
@Reagaknight,
Reagaknight;20911 wrote:
Okay I doubt I will respond to you anymore after this, but I meant, as you should know, that accusations with no proof do not have any effect on anyone's reputation except that of the accuser.



God Exists is the biggest accusation with NOTHING more than Here-say for proof.

How is Gods reputation?

Not to bad really.
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Wed 13 Jun, 2007 10:33 pm
@imuthis,
imuthis;20909 wrote:
No offense but i my age is not the topic of the forum.


Why can't you tell me? I'm almost 50. I hate it, but I can still admit it, publicly. I IS ALMOST FITTY, DAWG. DAS RIGHT -- FITTY.

Just in case Chris Hansen is monitoring this, BE ADVISED: I AM NOT NOW, NOR EVER HAVE BEEN AWARE, THAT IMUTHIS IS ONLY 14. :headbang:

Jus play'n. Jus play'n. Chill. Yall jus chillax now.
imuthis
 
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Reply Thu 14 Jun, 2007 03:53 am
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;21098 wrote:
Why can't you tell me? I'm almost 50. I hate it, but I can still admit it, publicly. I IS ALMOST FITTY, DAWG. DAS RIGHT -- FITTY.

Just in case Chris Hansen is monitoring this, BE ADVISED: I AM NOT NOW, OR EVER HAVE BEEN AWARE THAT IMUTHIS IS ONLY 14. :headbang:

Jus play'n. Jus play'n. Chill. Yall jus chillax now.


I'm 25 years old.
Reagaknight
 
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Reply Thu 14 Jun, 2007 09:19 am
@imuthis,
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God Exists is the biggest accusation with NOTHING more than Here-say for proof.

How is Gods reputation?

Not to bad really.
__________________


Okay, completely different arena.
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Thu 14 Jun, 2007 09:46 am
@imuthis,
imuthis;21108 wrote:
I'm 25 years old.


That would mean formation for Jesuit ordination is only six years, which is half of what I've read it is, ordinarily. If you graduated high school at 17, you would have graduated undergrad at 21, and your master's program at 23. I find it hard to believe formation is so short for the ALMIGHTY SOCIETY OF JESUS. Is it?
imuthis
 
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Reply Thu 14 Jun, 2007 08:02 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;21140 wrote:
That would mean formation for Jesuit ordination is only six years, which is half of what I've read it is, ordinarily. If you graduated high school at 17, you would have graduated undergrad at 21, and your master's program at 23. I find it hard to believe formation is so short for the ALMIGHTY SOCIETY OF JESUS. Is it?


Since you asked, I graduated high school at 15, i was accelerated 2 years. And i took my Bachelor's Degree in physics. It is a 4 year course but i took it for 3 and a half years. I took my master's program which is theology at the age of 19 and i finished when i was 24.
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imuthis
 
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Reply Thu 14 Jun, 2007 08:12 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;21140 wrote:
That would mean formation for Jesuit ordination is only six years, which is half of what I've read it is, ordinarily. If you graduated high school at 17, you would have graduated undergrad at 21, and your master's program at 23. I find it hard to believe formation is so short for the ALMIGHTY SOCIETY OF JESUS. Is it?


Since you asked, I graduated high school at 15, i was accelerated 2 years. And i took my Bachelor's Degree in physics. It is a 4 year course but i took it for 3 years. I took my master's program which is theology at the age of 18, i finished when i was 23.
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Red cv
 
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Reply Thu 14 Jun, 2007 08:23 pm
@imuthis,
I was raised Catholic and frankly that Religion scares me as much as Radical Islam. A church that preaches abstaining from sex to a sexual society in Africa does more harm than good. To be honest the only time I've ever seen this "Religion/cult raise money is to further it's own agenda visa vie law suits filed by victims of rape and abuse. I have no faith respect or desire to be part of this cult ever again. To allow it's priest to abuse victim after victim because they confessed in the confessional is the weakest excuse I've ever read. The church should of called the police, but instead they sent them to new Parishes to rape and abuse again and again. They knew what their priests were doing and they sent them to new Parishes to commit further sexual crimes. This religion has no conscience but pretents it's the "One True" religion. No thanks, the innocents who suffered at the hands of the so called "Chosen" make me swallow bile. Watching the Pope sit in a Mosque and convert to Islam to appease this religion after Islam was offended by a uni lecture proved my point to me personally.
Reagaknight
 
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Reply Fri 15 Jun, 2007 06:26 am
@imuthis,
When did the Pope convert to Islam, again?
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imuthis
 
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Reply Fri 15 Jun, 2007 10:22 am
@Red cv,
Red;21256 wrote:
I was raised Catholic and frankly that Religion scares me as much as Radical Islam. A church that preaches abstaining from sex to a sexual society in Africa does more harm than good. To be honest the only time I've ever seen this "Religion/cult raise money is to further it's own agenda visa vie law suits filed by victims of rape and abuse. I have no faith respect or desire to be part of this cult ever again. To allow it's priest to abuse victim after victim because they confessed in the confessional is the weakest excuse I've ever read. The church should of called the police, but instead they sent them to new Parishes to rape and abuse again and again. They knew what their priests were doing and they sent them to new Parishes to commit further sexual crimes. This religion has no conscience but pretents it's the "One True" religion. No thanks, the innocents who suffered at the hands of the so called "Chosen" make me swallow bile. Watching the Pope sit in a Mosque and convert to Islam to appease this religion after Islam was offended by a uni lecture proved my point to me personally.


Good post.
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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Fri 15 Jun, 2007 02:21 pm
@imuthis,
Oh, well, screw this thread, and may I leave you with this: The Pope never converted to Islam, in fact, when he visited Turkey, he prayed in the Hagia Sophia, a historical church converted to a museum, after explicitly told not to by secularists and Muslims alike. And there are perverted people everywhere, only a very small but overexagerrated percentage of priests have been involved in the scandals.
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