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Who Rules America? America's Shadow Gov't

 
 
sam2007
 
Reply Sun 10 Jun, 2007 12:55 pm
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jun, 2007 12:57 pm
@sam2007,
The Israel Lobby has too much power in America. That's a given. Still, the greater threat is Islam, by far.
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sam2007
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jun, 2007 01:21 pm
@sam2007,
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Red cv
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jun, 2007 12:08 pm
@sam2007,
Well that little wee article screams it's the Joos it's the Jews trying to take over the world. Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
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Dmizer
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jun, 2007 12:23 pm
@sam2007,
Regardless of how you feel about Jews ruling the world, They are an admirable society of people. They value education and hard work. They constantly strive to better themselves and society in general. Their achievements in science, medicine and economics has revolutionized the western world. So whether you are anti semetic or not you cannot deny the jewish impact on the western world. You want to criticize them for taking care of their own, then go ahead, anyone of you, in the same postion, would do the same. Don't be hypocrtical and put them down for being good at it. Thats jealousy / envy and stupid bigotry plain and simple.
sam2007
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jun, 2007 12:29 pm
@sam2007,
Hiiiii
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Red cv
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jun, 2007 12:35 pm
@sam2007,
I don't believe the propaganda that the Jews plan on taking over the world, period. Poor buggers have to fight for every little scrap of quality of life in Israel why would they want the globe and all the evil that is transpiring in it.

Great post Dmizer.
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sam2007
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jun, 2007 12:59 pm
@sam2007,
Hiiiii
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jun, 2007 02:44 pm
@Dmizer,
Dmizer;20514 wrote:
Regardless of how you feel about Jews ruling the world, They are an admirable society of people. They value education and hard work. They constantly strive to better themselves and society in general. Their achievements in science, medicine and economics has revolutionized the western world. So whether you are anti semetic or not you cannot deny the jewish impact on the western world. You want to criticize them for taking care of their own, then go ahead, anyone of you, in the same postion, would do the same. Don't be hypocrtical and put them down for being good at it. Thats jealousy / envy and stupid bigotry plain and simple.


Jesus was a Jew. Yipper.
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sam2007
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jun, 2007 06:49 pm
@sam2007,
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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jun, 2007 06:51 pm
@sam2007,
That's 56%? The president appoints over 4,000 people.
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sam2007
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jun, 2007 06:56 pm
@sam2007,
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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jun, 2007 06:58 pm
@sam2007,
Quote:
60. Kathleen Koch - Heads FBI Equal Opportunity Office


Heart of the government?
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Dmizer
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jun, 2007 09:18 pm
@sam2007,
Sam2007,
Is there a problem with people who happen to be Jewish making up 56% of a hospital? or perhaps a university? or perhaps researchers trying to cure cancer? I don't understand what your problem is, aside from possibly being prejudice, what is your issue with jews?
Would you have the same problem with African Americans obtaining the same percentage of positions in the government? or perhaps Hispanics?
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Skye cv
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2007 06:34 am
@sam2007,
Sam Oh Oh Oh

I know there are people like you hiding out in anonymity writing garbage.

You justify what I have been taught: that any one person can be taught to believe almost anything if they can be caught up in a cause of anger and frustration. It's an old psychological 'tell' - find someone or something to blame for one's own unacknowledged shortcomings.

In your wisdom, I dare you to go back over your beliefs and now pick them apart in forensic debate and see how shallow they are.

You are far too intelligent for me to write what I really think.

The target you have chosen to spend your time on is a very old, very useless and meaningless task.
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2007 09:10 am
@sam2007,
sam2007;20611 wrote:
"Every time we do something, you tell me America will do this and will do that.. I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." - Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon in October 3, 2001.

56% of all Clinton appointments were Jews, many as heads of the federal departments and agencies. Are they the only educated and hard working around?

1. Madeleine Albright - Secretary of State
2. Robert Rubin - Secretary of Treasury
3. William Cohen - Secretary of Defense
4. Dan Glickman - Secretary of Agriculture
5. George Tenet - CIA Chief
6. Samuel Berger - Head National Security Council
7. Evelyn Lieberman - Deputy Chief of Staff
8. Stuart Eizenstat - Under Secretary of State
9. Charlene Barshefsky - U.S. Trade Representative
10. Susan Thomases - Aide to First Lady
11. Joel Klein - Assistant Attorney General
12. Gene Sperling - National Economic Council
13. Ira Magaziner - National Health Care
14. Peter Tarnoff - Deputy Secretary of State
15. Alice Rivlin - Ecomomic Advisory
16. Janet Yellen - Chairwoman, National Economic Council
17. Rahm Emanuel - Policy Advisor
18. Doug Sosnik - Counsel to President
19. Jim Steinberg - Deputy to National Security Chief
20. Jay Footlik - Special Liason to the Jewish Community (no other group has a special liason)
21. Robert Nash - Personal Chief
22. Jane Sherburne - President's Lawyer
23. Mark Penn - Asia Expert to NEC
24. Sandy Kristoff - Health Care Chief
25. Robert Boorstin - Communications Aide
26. Keith Boykin - Communications Aide
27. Jeff Eller - Special Assistant to Clinton
28. Tom Epstein - Health Care Adviser
29. Judith Feder - National Security Council
30. Richard Feinberg - Assistant Secretary Veterans
31. Hershel Gober - Food and Drug Administration
32. Steve Kessler - White House Counsel
33. Ron Klein - Assistant Secretary Education
34. Madeleine Kunin - Communications Aide
35. David Kusnet - Dept. AIDS Program
36. Margaret Hamburg - Dir. Press Conferences
37. Many Grunwald - Liason to Jewish Leaders
38. Karen Adler - Dir. State Dept. Policy
39. Samuel Lewis - National Security Council
40. Stanley Ross - National Security Council
41. Dan Schifter - Director Peace Corps.
42. Eli Segal - Deputy Chief of Staff
43. Alan Greenspan - Chairman of Federal Reserve Bank
44. Robert Weiner - Drug Policy Coordinator
45. Jack Lew - Deputy Director Management and Budget
46. James P. Rubin - Under Secretary of State
47. David Lipton - Under Secretary of The Treasury
48. Lanny P. Breuer - Special Counsel to The President
49. Richard Holbrooke - Special Representative to NATO
50. Kenneth Apfel - Chief of Social Security
51. Joel Klein - Deputy Whlte Honse Counsel
52. Sidney Blumenthal - Speclal Advisor to Pirst Lady
53. David Kessler - Chief of Food & Drug Adininistration
54. Seth Waxman - Acting Solicitor General
55. Mark Penn - Presidential Pollster
56. Dennis Ross - Special Middle East Representative
57. Howard Shapiro - - General Counsel for the FBI
58. Lanny Davis - White House Special Counsel
59. Sally Katzen - Secretary of Management and Budget
60. Kathleen Koch - Heads FBI Equal Opportunity Office
61. John Podesta - Deputy Chief of Staff
62. Alan Blinder - Vice Chairman of Federal Reserve
63. Janet Yellen - Heads Council of Economlc Advisors
64. Ron Klain - Chief of Staff for Al Gore
65. John C. Kornblum - US Ambassador to Germany
66. Felix Rohatyn - US Ambassador to France
67. Daniel Fried - US Ambassador to Poland
68. Edward E. Elson - US Ambassador to denmark
69. Donald M. Blinken - US Ambassador to Hungary
70. Alfred H. Moses - US Ambassador to Romania
71. Alan J. Blinken, US Ambassador to Belgium
72. Kenneth S. Yalowitz, US Ambassador to Belarus
73. James A. Joseph, US Ambassador to South Africa
74. Frank G. Wisner, US Ambassador to India
75. Marc Grossman - US Ambassador to Turkey
76. Josiah H. Beeman, US Ambassador to New Zealand
77. Daniel C. Kurtzer, US Ambassador to Egypt
78. Thomas L. Siebert, US Ambassador to Sweden
79. Marc C. Ginsberg - US Ambassador to Morocco
80. Timothy A. Chorba - US Ambassador to Singapore
81. Arlene Render, US Ambassador to Zambia
82. Melvyn Levitsky - US Ambassador to Brazil
83. Curt W. Kamman, US Ambassador to Bolivia
84. Jeffrey Davidow - US Ambassador to Mexico
85. Gordon Giffin - US Ambassador to Canada
86. Michael G. Kozak - US Interest Head to Cuba
87. David B. Hermelin - US Ambassador to Norway
88. Madeleine M. Kunin - US Ambassador to Switzerland


Yes, there are many Jews in America's power structures. That's a fact. At times they have tended to influence politics based on a common agenda-type set of beliefs. For example, the Scalawag Slicky Boy Clinton commanded the Jewish vote to a large extent. 911 changed that sort of political allignment, however. NONETHELESS, Jews are highly civilized and contribute positively to our society. And, most importantly, they are critical allies in our WOT. Israel is a Western outpost in the Middle East, and must be adamantly supported by the U.S. Israel and America might end up alone on the battlefield against Islamic terrorism, but together they will win, against all odds. In fact, America should enlist Israeli aid in conducting covert ops against Iran, big time. Iran should be crawling with Mossad agents, ready to take out the country's nuke grid.
Drnaline
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2007 09:12 am
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;20692 wrote:
Yes, there are many Jews in America's power structures. That's a fact. At times they have tended to influence politics based on a common agenda-type set of beliefs. For example, the Scalawag Slicky Boy Clinton commanded the Jewish vote to a large extent. 911 changed that sort of political allignment, however. NONETHELESS, Jews are highly civilized and contribute positively to our society. And, most importantly, they are critical allies in our WOT. Israel is a Western outpost in the Middle East, and must be adamantly supported by the U.S. Israel and America might end up alone on the battlefield against Islamic terrorism, but together they will win, against all odds.

Yeah baby!!!
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sam2007
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2007 10:41 am
@sam2007,
Hiiiii
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2007 12:02 pm
@sam2007,
sam2007;20718 wrote:
All I'm trying to say is that they are using your tax and credit dollars, and lives, to serve Israel.

After Tenet's "slam dunk" on Iraq's WMD's, do you still want to follow them as they prepare you on Fox and CNN for Iran war? My only effort here is to show you who Tenet is.


They don't have that much control, and yes, they are our allies in the Middle East. We need them, and they need us. Proof that I'm right on this will be our refusal to go to war with Iran, even though we should. America is still in charge of her relationship with Israel. If America really knew what was good for her and the world, she would start bombing Iran today. This shouldn't be an era of mass movements for peace. It should be one in which we all fight for expanded war against Terrorist Islam. Iran is the ultimate source of terror. :headbang:
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