Reagaknight
 
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Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2007 12:01 pm
@oleo,
oleo;26442 wrote:
That isn't what the movie concludes, but then again you don't want to see it.

I haven't seen it, and I consider his stuff "entertainment" first and "factual" second.

The main point is that the "managed care" practiced by private health care
providers in this country is managed to make them the most money it can
and they don't give a damn about the customers.

But hey, that's capitalism. No one HAS to take whatever insurance they're
offered at work. If there was enough demand health care would become more
competitive and the public as individuals would have more power.

Michael Moore is a capitalist, too, and there's nothing wrong with him making
his products and selling them. That's the American way, and people have a choice in whether to see the movies or not.

You choose not to, others choose to see them.

I'm for smaller government, and I'm decidedly anti-corporate. I don't see that
much of a difference to either end, really, just callous bureaucracy.


And he proves it by going to Cuba. Uh huh.

Bush gave you the HSAs, they work, what else do you want?
scooby-doo cv
 
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Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2007 12:04 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;26448 wrote:
Michael Moore deserves total hostility wherever he goes in America. He's a professional propagandist who chose long ago to specialize in betraying his nation. He's a moving target, fair game, and a traitor without a country.


lol he is entitled to his views,as are you pino,betraying his nation ? for what
scooby-doo cv
 
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Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2007 12:05 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;26449 wrote:
So what? You're anti-American. Anyone who hates America is a very, very bad person. Europe considers itself 'capitalist', but in reality is just a grade or two below full-fledged Marxism-Leninism.:no:


what you said about europe is absolute garbage pino.
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IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY
 
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Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2007 12:52 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;26443 wrote:
What planet are you from? In politics, only one thing counts -- winning. One wins by whatever means necessary and available. Your silly rules apply to no one but yourself. Go ahead.....follow them. Follow them meticulously. I'm sure for you, they're good rules. Laughing


Pardon me Pino but how do you think you win in politics? You have to be right. And how are you right? If you have evidence to make you right. As Carlos Mencia would say, "DEE DEE DEE!" :FU1:
Reagaknight
 
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Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2007 01:03 pm
@IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY,
Ah yes, the wisdom of Carlos Mencia.

You have quite a bit to learn about politics. Sometimes it just comes down to pointless rhetoric. You should be well-prepared for that area, should you ever choose to go into politics.
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oleo
 
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Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2007 01:06 pm
@Reagaknight,
Carlos Mencia? You've got a lot to learn about comedy, too.
Pinochet73
 
  1  
Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2007 01:10 pm
@oleo,
oleo;26461 wrote:
I don't hate America. Quite the contrary.

I'm the ultimate liberty lover, I won't dilute that for right wing authoritarians like
Cheney, corporate socialists like Hillary, radical Christianists or Islmaists or
anybody else.

Let Freedom Ring!:headbang:


Are you the Libertarian among us?:scratchchin:
Reagaknight
 
  1  
Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2007 01:14 pm
@oleo,
oleo;26484 wrote:
Carlos Mencia? You've got a lot to learn about comedy, too.


:thumbup: Hey, I agree. Don't get used to it.
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oleo
 
  1  
Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2007 01:16 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;26485 wrote:
Are you the Libertarian among us?:scratchchin:


libertarian, not a "Libertarian"

libertarian like the Founding Fathers, and anyone else who loves their freedom.
Pinochet73
 
  1  
Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2007 01:21 pm
@IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY,
IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY!;26475 wrote:
Pardon me Pino but how do you think you win in politics? You have to be right. And how are you right? If you have evidence to make you right. As Carlos Mencia would say, "DEE DEE DEE!" :FU1:


Yes, Truth should prevail, but it often doesn't, especially now, in the age of spin. Not to be hypocritical, but I must say, I enjoy employing certain Clinton defenses, when it's conventient and gratifying. This is one such moment. IF CLINTON COULD DO WHAT HE DID, AND GET AWAY WITH IT, IN PLAIN VIEW OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, THEN I CAN DO JUST ABOUT ANY DAMNED THING I PLEASE. That includes making outrageous claims without a shred of proof. :headbang:
Pinochet73
 
  1  
Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2007 01:23 pm
@oleo,
oleo;26490 wrote:
libertarian, not a "Libertarian"

libertarian like the Founding Fathers, and anyone else who loves their freedom.


Okay.....now I remember you. Cool. :headbang:
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IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY
 
  1  
Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2007 12:50 am
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;26491 wrote:
Yes, Truth should prevail, but it often doesn't, especially now, in the age of spin. Not to be hypocritical, but I must say, I enjoy employing certain Clinton defenses, when it's conventient and gratifying. This is one such moment. IF CLINTON COULD DO WHAT HE DID, AND GET AWAY WITH IT, IN PLAIN VIEW OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, THEN I CAN DO JUST ABOUT ANY DAMNED THING I PLEASE. That includes making outrageous claims without a shred of proof. :headbang:


You sure can. You can do whatever your damn please, but it doesnt make you right which was my point in the first place.
IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY
 
  1  
Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2007 12:51 am
@oleo,
oleo;26484 wrote:
Carlos Mencia? You've got a lot to learn about comedy, too.


(bit off subject) I think he is rather funny. Although it attracts more the teenager crowd but anyway this is a thread about Sicko
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Reagaknight
 
  1  
Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2007 08:38 am
@IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY,
The thing Jimmy Kimmel, I think did about it and Die Hard II, that was funny, not some midget pretending to be a pimp. Die Hard, Sicko.
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Pinochet73
 
  1  
Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2007 09:13 am
@scooby-doo cv,
scooby-doo;26465 wrote:
lol he is entitled to his views,as are you pino,betraying his nation ? for what


Yeah.....and I'm entitled to combat his views. As long as that piece of human garbage contaminates the land, I will attempt to exterminate his contagion.:rocketwhore:
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Pinochet73
 
  1  
Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2007 09:17 am
@IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY,
IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY!;26533 wrote:
You sure can. You can do whatever your damn please, but it doesnt make you right which was my point in the first place.


On a human level, being 'right' is purely subjective. Therefore, your demands that I prove I'm right are foolish. On a spiritual level, only Christianity is right. Therefore, by fighting for Christianity, I am always right, and there is no other proof required. INDEED, SOME CHRISTIANS WILL FIGHT BACK. Don't forget that. :headbang:
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