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Explosive charge blows up in US's face

 
 
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Reply Mon 29 Oct, 2007 04:47 pm
Explosive charge blows up in US's face By Gareth Porter


WASHINGTON - When the United States military command accused the Iranian Quds Force in January of providing the armor-piercing EFPs (explosively formed penetrators) that were killing US troops, it knew that Iraqi machine shops had been producing their own EFPs for years, a review of the historical record of evidence on EFPs in Iraq shows.

The record also shows that the US command had considerable evidence that the Mahdi Army of Shi'ite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr had received the technology and the training on how to use it from Hezbollah, rather than Iran. The command, operating under close White House supervision, chose to deny these facts in making the dramatic accusation that became the main rationale for the present aggressive US stance toward Iran. Although the George W Bush administration initially limited the accusation to the Quds Force, it has recently begun to assert that top officials of the Iranian regime are responsible for arms that are killing US troops. British and US officials observed from the beginning that the EFPs being used in Iraq closely resembled the ones used by Hezbollah against Israeli forces in southern Lebanon, both in their design and the techniques for using them. Hezbollah was known as the world's most knowledgeable specialists in EFP manufacture and use, having perfected this during the 1990s in the military struggle with Israeli forces in Lebanon.

It was widely recognized that it was Hezbollah that had passed on the expertise to Hamas and other Palestinian militant groups after the second Intifada began in 2000. US intelligence also knew that Hezbollah was conducting the training of Mahdi Army militants on EFPs. In August 2005, Newsday published a report from correspondent Mohammed Bazzi that Shi'ite fighters had begun in early 2005 to copy Hezbollah techniques for building the bombs, as well as for carrying out roadside ambushes, citing both Iraqi and Lebanese officials. In late November 2006, a senior intelligence official told both CNN and the New York Times that Hezbollah troops had trained as many as 2,000 Mahdi Army fighters in Lebanon.

The fact that the Mahdi Army's major military connection has always been with Hezbollah rather than Iran would also explain the presence in Iraq of the PRG-29, a shoulder-fired anti-armor weapon. Although US military briefers identified it last February as being Iranian-made, the RPG-29 is not manufactured by Iran but by the Russian Federation. According to the Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz, RPG-29s were imported from Russia by Syria, then passed on to Hezbollah, which used them with devastating effectiveness against Israeli forces in the 2006 war. According to a June 2004 report on the well-informed military website Strategypage.com, RPG-29s were already turning up in Iraq, "apparently smuggled across the Syrian border". The earliest EFPs appearing in Iraq in 2004 were so professionally made that they were probably constructed by Hezbollah specialists, according to a detailed account by British expert Michael Knights in Jane's Intelligence Review last year.

By late 2005, however, the British command had already found clear evidence that the Iraqi Shi'ites themselves were manufacturing their own EFPs. British Army Major General J B Dutton told reporters in November 2005 that the bombs were of varying degrees of sophistication. Some of the EFPs required a "reasonably sophisticated factory", he said, while others required only a simple workshop, which he observed, could only mean that some of them were being made inside Iraq. After British convoys in Maysan province were attacked by a series of EFP bombings in late May 2006, Knights recounts, British forces discovered a factory making them in Majar al-Kabir north of Basra in June. In addition, the US military also had its own forensic evidence by the autumn of 2006 that EFPs used against its vehicles had been manufactured in Iraq, according to Knights.

He cites photographic evidence of EFP strikes on US armored vehicles that "typically shows a mixture of clean penetrations from fully-formed EFP and spattering ..." That pattern reflected the fact that the locally made EFPs were imperfect, some of them forming the required shape to penetrate but some of them failing to do so. Then US troops began finding EFP factories. Journalist Andrew Cockburn reported in the Los Angeles Times in mid-February that US troops had raided a Baghdad machine shop in November 2006 and discovered "a pile of copper discs, five inches in diameter, stamped out as part of what was clearly an ongoing order".

In a report on February 23, NBC Baghdad correspondent Jane Arraf quoted "senior military officials" as saying that US forces had "been finding an increasing number of the advanced roadside bombs being not just assembled but manufactured in machine shops here". Nevertheless, the Bush administration decided to put the blame for the EFPs squarely on the Quds Force of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps, after Bush agreed in autumn 2006 to target the Quds Force within Iran to make Iranian leaders feel vulnerable to US power. The allegedly exclusive Iranian manufacture of EFPs was the administration's only argument for holding the Quds Force responsible for their use against US forces.

At the February 11 military briefing presenting the case for this claim, one of the US military officials declared, "The explosive charges used by Iranian agents in Iraq need a special manufacturing process, which is available only in Iran." The briefer insisted that there was no evidence that they were being made in Iraq. That lynchpin of the administration's EFP narrative began to break down almost immediately, however. On February 23, NBC's Arraf confronted Lieutenant General Ray Odierno, who had been out in front in January promoting the new Iranian EFP line, with the information she had obtained from other senior military officials that an increasing number of machine shops manufacturing EFPs had been discovered by US troops.

Odierno began to walk the Iranian EFP story back. He said the EFPs had "started to come from Iran", but he admitted "some of the technologies" were "probably being constructed here". The following day, US troops found yet another EFP factory near Baqubah, with copper discs that appeared to be made with a high degree of precision, but which could not be said with any certainty to have originated in Iran. The explosive expert who claimed at the February briefing that EFPs could only be made in Iran was then made available to the New York Times to explain away the new find.

Major Marty Weber now backed down from his earlier statement and admitted that there were "copy cat" EFPs being machined in Iraq that looked identical to those allegedly made in Iran to the untrained eye. Weber insisted that such Iraqi-made EFPs had slight imperfections which made them "much less likely to pierce armor". But NBC's Arraf had reported the previous week that a senor military official had confirmed to her that the EFPs made in Iraqi shops were indeed quite able to penetrate US armor.

The impact of those weapons "isn't as clean", the official said, but they are "almost as effective" as the best-made EFPs. The idea that only Iranian EFPs penetrate armor would be a surprise to Israeli intelligence, which has reported that EFPs manufactured by Hamas guerrillas in their own machine shops during 2006 had penetrated eight inches of Israeli steel armor in four separate incidents in September and November, according to the Intelligence and Terrorism Center in Tel Aviv. The Arraf story was ignored by the news media, and the Bush administration has continued to assert the Iranian EFP charge as though it had never been questioned. It soon became such an accepted part of the media narrative on Iran and Iraq that the only issue about which reporters bother to ask questions is whether the top leaders of the Iranian government have approved the alleged Quds Force operation.

Gareth Porter is an historian and national security policy analyst. His latest book, Perils of Dominance: Imbalance of Power and the Road to War in Vietnam, was published in June 2005.

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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Mon 29 Oct, 2007 05:41 pm
@92b16vx,
There you go again, defending our enemies. Unbelievable.
Adam Bing
 
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Reply Mon 29 Oct, 2007 07:00 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;43594 wrote:
There you go again, defending our enemies. Unbelievable.


Investigating & research are two powerful American strengths that keep us in the lead. By doing that, he is doing his duty and not defending our enemies. With the Government we have, our enemies are already well defended and don't need these exposes to help them any further.
92b16vx
 
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Reply Mon 29 Oct, 2007 07:15 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;43594 wrote:
There you go again, defending our enemies. Unbelievable.


The enemies are the ones leading us to war under false pretences...AGAIN. Stop tounge authoritarian ass.
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Mon 29 Oct, 2007 07:15 pm
@Adam Bing,
Adam Bing;43604 wrote:
Investigating & research are two powerful American strengths that keep us in the lead. By doing that, he is doing his duty and not defending our enemies. With the Government we have, our enemies are already well defended and don't need these exposes to help them any further.


Balderdash. BALDERDASH, I say. Off with your head!!!!!:angryfire:
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aaronssongs
 
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Reply Mon 29 Oct, 2007 08:40 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;43594 wrote:
There you go again, defending our enemies. Unbelievable.


The real enemies are the current occupants of the White House. And all those rushing to war with everybody.
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Drakej
 
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Reply Mon 29 Oct, 2007 08:40 pm
@92b16vx,
I do not see what is wrong with posting a story of this nature, it is not un-patriotic. I feel it really is our duty as Americans to form our own thoughts opinions and ideas. Posting links to stories such as this are supposed to make you think. I doubt that 92b16vx wants to force these ideas down your throat. Much like opinion on the events of 9-11 I talk to people about it just to get them thinking. I don't know about you but I don't want to be a sheep. I don't want to be ruled by fear. I try and do as much reading as possible to form my own well educated opinions.
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scooby-doo cv
 
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Reply Tue 30 Oct, 2007 09:45 am
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;43594 wrote:
There you go again, defending our enemies. Unbelievable.


How can you accuse 92b of defending your enemies ? for daring to disagree with the neo-cons in the white house,and their stupid foreign poilicy in the middle-east :headbang:
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briansol
 
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Reply Tue 30 Oct, 2007 05:09 pm
@92b16vx,
92b was IN the suck. He defended you and I already and has seen first hand what's going on over there. how he is not a patriot is beyond me
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Tue 30 Oct, 2007 05:52 pm
@briansol,
briansol;43699 wrote:
92b was IN the suck. He defended you and I already and has seen first hand what's going on over there. how he is not a patriot is beyond me


Benedict Arnold was an American vet, too. Don't gimme that crap. I served for 20 years and knew hundreds of combat vets. Sometimes I wonder if he might have been a mercenary at heart.
92b16vx
 
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Reply Tue 30 Oct, 2007 07:34 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;43707 wrote:
Benedict Arnold was an American vet, too. Don't gimme that crap. I served for 20 years and knew hundreds of combat vets. Sometimes I wonder if he might have been a mercenary at heart.


Blow it out your ass. EFPs were developed by the BRITISH. It isn't an iranian technology.
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Whatever cv
 
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Reply Wed 31 Oct, 2007 02:19 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;43594 wrote:
There you go again, defending our enemies. Unbelievable.


The truth is the enemy? How do you, as an American, claim that?

Sound more like a fascist communist supporter than a person who believes in our constitution. Are you a fascist communist?
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Whatever cv
 
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Reply Wed 31 Oct, 2007 02:20 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;43707 wrote:
Benedict Arnold was an American vet, too. Don't gimme that crap. I served for 20 years and knew hundreds of combat vets. Sometimes I wonder if he might have been a mercenary at heart.



Bullshit....you are no more military than Bush is...I'll bet you two even went AWOL together...

Too many of you phoney Limbaugh soldiers on these forums...I'm calling you out..you are a liar...and no supporter of US troops to be sure..
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Wed 31 Oct, 2007 06:02 pm
@92b16vx,
Well, Steel, lemme put it to you this way: if you pay taxes, you send me over two grand a month, and pay for a whole bunch of other stuff the military gives me. Believe what you want. I enjoy your money. Thank you.
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