@scooby-doo cv,
scooby-doo;48562 wrote: and germans dont have socialists governments,but they have National health services,thats not seen as being socialist over here.
You don't know what socialism means do you?
Socialism is a broad array of ideologies and political movements with the goal of a socio-economic system in which property and the distribution of wealth are subject to control by the community for the purposes of increasing social and economic equality and cooperation.[1] This control may be either direct, exercised through popular collectives such as workers' councils, or indirect, exercised on behalf of the people by the state. As an economic system, socialism is often characterized by state or community ownership of the means of production.
Germany, and many other European countries are the very definition of socialism.