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Fred Thompson on Illegal Immigration

 
 
Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2007 12:27 am
YouTube - Fred Thompson On Illegal Immigration

Fred-ON, apply directly to the White House! :thumbup:
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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2007 08:48 am
@Silverchild79,
So you've switched over now?
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Silverchild79
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2007 09:18 am
@Silverchild79,
no it's a catch phrase. I like Rudy's platform on social issues better

but is Fred wins the primary I have no beef with voting for him
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92b16vx
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2007 09:26 am
@Silverchild79,
Voted YES on allowing more foreign workers into the US for farm work.
Voted YES on visas for skilled workers
Voted YES on limit welfare for immigrants.


Sorry, no.
Reagaknight
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2007 09:27 am
@Silverchild79,
I'm not surprised, since I've seen you prove abortion is virtually infanticide even at 12 weeks and say it was okay in the next breath because most people are pro-choice.

Good luck with that. See the latest poll? 5-24 to Fred. And Rudy's been in it long enough to get a lot of the undecided, once Fred gets in, I bet he'll get a boost from that area.
92b16vx
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2007 09:35 am
@Reagaknight,
Reagaknight;26575 wrote:
I'm not surprised, since I've seen you prove abortion is virtually infanticide even at 12 weeks and say it was okay in the next breath because most people are pro-choice.


Maybe you should get your search button handy and come up with that.And it better be a direct quote, not your interpertation.
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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2007 09:38 am
@Silverchild79,
No thanks, I prefer books, especially authoritative ones. People can lie more easily on the internet... you, for example.
92b16vx
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2007 09:40 am
@Reagaknight,
Reagaknight;26581 wrote:
No thanks, I prefer books, especially authoritative ones. People can lie more easily on the internet... you, for example.


Ahhh so you are lying, and misquoting me, good job.

I hope if you vote for Fred you like two things, one, being dissappointed that your lawyer/lobbist lied to you and isn't doing anything he said, and two the Vice President when Fred starts chemo.
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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2007 09:53 am
@Silverchild79,
Did you just joke about Fred having cancer? Close shave if not.

Also, I was unaware that you were from the future and know what Fred will be like as President. Are conservatives always right in your time as well?
92b16vx
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2007 10:03 am
@Reagaknight,
Reagaknight;26586 wrote:
Did you just joke about Fred having cancer? Close shave if not.

Also, I was unaware that you were from the future and know what Fred will be like as President. Are conservatives always right in your time as well?


It's hardly a joke.

And you don't have to be from the future, just look at past voting records, and not be fooled by the good ol' boy southern drawl.
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Silverchild79
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2007 10:05 am
@Reagaknight,
Reagaknight;26586 wrote:
Also, I was unaware that you were from the future and know what Fred will be like as President. Are conservatives always right in your time as well?


BAHAHAHAHA
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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2007 05:28 pm
@Silverchild79,
Seeing as that actually was a joke, I don't mind that, even though it is your preferred condescending way of typing laughter.
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Silverchild79
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2007 11:45 pm
@Silverchild79,
??

I wasn't being condescending
Drnaline
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2007 07:01 am
@Silverchild79,
There seems to be a difference of opinion.
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TrueAmerican
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2007 03:16 pm
@92b16vx,
92b16vx;26573 wrote:
Voted YES on allowing more foreign workers into the US for farm work.
Voted YES on visas for skilled workers
Voted YES on limit welfare for immigrants.


Sorry, no.


And may I ask what's wrong with these views?

1) Obviously, the United States has become to spoiled to do it's own Blue Collar work. Bringing foreign workers to do that work, as well as pay taxes from their wages, benefits the foreigner themself as well as the governement.

2) If there is something that us citizens can't preform on our own, why not bring a skilled worker in to teach us. After all, wouldn't you think in the long run that would benefit us more?

3) Immigrants try to come into this country to try to gain money and provide for their family. In doing so, they find ways to manipulate the system and reap the benefits of our economy without contributing to it first. So why not limit the welfare of immagrants and focus on the needs of natural citizens such as ourselves?

I don't see how you could disagree with his views.
92b16vx
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2007 03:35 pm
@TrueAmerican,
TrueAmerican;26691 wrote:
And may I ask what's wrong with these views?

1) Obviously, the United States has become to spoiled to do it's own Blue Collar work. Bringing foreign workers to do that work, as well as pay taxes from their wages, benefits the foreigner themself as well as the governement.


Spoiled, or maybe they know they don't have to pay a legal citizen a livable wage when they can hire illegals all day to do it. When foreign workers are here legally, and pay taxes, which is probably less then .01 percent of "foreign workers" that's fine.

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2) If there is something that us citizens can't preform on our own, why not bring a skilled worker in to teach us. After all, wouldn't you think in the long run that would benefit us more?


There is nothing we can't do here, there are however a ton of jobs they can outsource to foreign countries, or hire cheap labor to do.

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3) Immigrants try to come into this country to try to gain money and provide for their family. In doing so, they find ways to manipulate the system and reap the benefits of our economy without contributing to it first. So why not limit the welfare of immagrants and focus on the needs of natural citizens such as ourselves?


Or cut them off completely and focus on the needs of U.S. citizens. We don't owe anything to illegal workers, except that they have kept wages lower for citizens.

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I don't see how you could disagree with his views.



Because I do not want illegal immigrants here. If you want to come to America, you can do what my wife had to do, and do it right, get in line, pay you money, pay your taxes, learn the language, and use it. Americans do not need to assimilate to another culture, other cultures need to assimilate to America if they want to be here. Go anywhere else in the world, start in Mexico and tell me what happens when you start demanding free **** from the government when you are in their country illegally.
TrueAmerican
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2007 03:44 pm
@Silverchild79,
I completly agree with keeping out illegal immigrants here. Nothing I said supported it. If we were to bring in foreign workers, it would be on a work visa which is completely legal. I do not support others coming into my...well, our country and taking our money. But if nobody is going to come in and do our blue collar jobs, we need to find a way to fill those positions. Agreeable? I don't want illegals here just as much as you don't. But as of now, we're not able to prevent it from happening. When homeland security bucks up and realizes this could be a threat towards our country, that will limit the illegals who are coming over.
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92b16vx
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2007 03:50 pm
@Silverchild79,
Unfortunately, they don't want to, it's more profitable to keep letting illegals in, and passing legislature to make it easier for them, and pass it off as "doing it for immigrants" and leaving off the illegal so they can have a nice voter base.

The difference around here for putting up a fence with a legal crew, and an illegal crew is about $2000, when we got estimates. I will gladly pay the legal crew more. But that is just one small example of how contractors using illegals is making those jobs cheap labor, and not appealing to people that are actually trying to live in this country. They don't have to worry about paying them more, or taxes, hell, they don't complain either. It's not liek they are trying to pay a mortgage or car note, insurance, one of the kids sick, or they get hurt, no biggie, go to the hospital, the U.S. citizens will pick up the tab. I think you could work this into your other thread about socialized medicine.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2007 08:05 am
@92b16vx,
92b16vx;26694 wrote:
Spoiled, or maybe they know they don't have to pay a legal citizen a livable wage when they can hire illegals all day to do it. When foreign workers are here legally, and pay taxes, which is probably less then .01 percent of "foreign workers" that's fine.



There is nothing we can't do here, there are however a ton of jobs they can outsource to foreign countries, or hire cheap labor to do.



Or cut them off completely and focus on the needs of U.S. citizens. We don't owe anything to illegal workers, except that they have kept wages lower for citizens.




Because I do not want illegal immigrants here. If you want to come to America, you can do what my wife had to do, and do it right, get in line, pay you money, pay your taxes, learn the language, and use it. Americans do not need to assimilate to another culture, other cultures need to assimilate to America if they want to be here. Go anywhere else in the world, start in Mexico and tell me what happens when you start demanding free **** from the government when you are in their country illegally.
WEll said 92.
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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2007 08:27 am
@Silverchild79,
Silverchild79;26628 wrote:
??

I wasn't being condescending


Didn't think so. Sorry. :dunno:
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