@Drnaline,
Drnaline;32182 wrote:Not according to us the UN and world consensus at the time.
Last time I cared about the U.N. was...never, and no, the world consensus was to use caution in this conflict, not abandon all dimplomacy to the wind, that's why so few went in, and most of the ones that did, left almost immediately.
Quote:Give me one example of a war going according to plan?
Mismanaged and planning, two different things.
Quote:Says you, Patreus see's different? I think he would say he has the upper hand.
We'll see in September, hopefully the report is at least halfway honest.
Quote:So you don't think the Patriot act and our metering of internet/phone traffic hasn't accomplished anything?
Other than give free riegn to invade our privacy? Nope. At least nothing that couldn't have been done with the agencies we already had in place.
Quote:It's just a fluck that we haven't been attacked again?
Just a fluke we weren't attacked here in the US while Carter was President? Or Reagan?
Quote:Where do by far the largest majority of terrorists go if you want to kill Americans?
I can' even begin to tell you how just plain silly that sounds, especially that until not too long ago (when the US death count past 2800 in Iraq) more people were killed in New York than ALL the past terrorist attacks on Americans combined.
Quote:In your opinion, since we haven't been attacked again since 9/11 i think opinion leans slightly my way.
Carter? Reagan? Nixon?
Quote:The enemy of my enemy.
Mistake number 1. The House of Saud is not our friend, they are our pimp.
Quote:You tell me you didn't do any good while you were there and i'll call you a liar. Any soldier i have ever asked say exactly the opposite?
In the grand scheme of things...no. On a day to day basis, we made some lives better, but overall, no, we did not "improve" much. Of course when I was there we were just coming out of combat mode and into occupation mode. We were still shooting first and asking questions later. The elections went off, and yippy, a bunch of Iraqis voted (you know, for the guys that went on vacation while we are trying to get their country in order), now that shia we put in power are slowly becoming our enemies, while the sunni insurgents we were fighting are becoming our alllies? Strange and dangerous bedfellows buddy. Since I left secular violence has increased exponentionally, so no, up until recently, our progress has been pretty slow.
Quote:So you were not on a real mission when you were there? What were you doing there then, stealing oil?
Oh look out, your little mind fell out again, pick up before someone steps on it.